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Russia-Taliban ties worry Afghan, US officials

It's not about revenge, but getting things done. The US has to admits its failures in Afghanistan. The Afghans have to admit they are failures too, especially the joke that is ANA. If Russians can help bring stability to Afghanistan, so much the better. And if it's about preventing Afghanistan from becoming a haven for terrorists, I think every country in the region would support this, including the US..

Refreshing to see an honest admission.
Yes, the bottom line should be to prevent the likes of AQ getting back to Afghanistan. The Talibans maybe medieval but they don't have global Jihad enterprise; they should form a significant part of the next unity govt; the next govt should ensure that no terrorist havens are ever formed in Afghanistan.
The world should help the Afghans and the first step would be to stop the proxy games.
 
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Refreshing to see an honest admission.
Yes, the bottom line should be to prevent the likes of AQ getting back to Afghanistan. The Talibans maybe medieval but they don't have global Jihad enterprise; they should form a significant part of the next unity govt; the next govt should ensure that no terrorist havens are ever formed in Afghanistan.
The world should help the Afghans and the first step would be to stop the proxy games.
Not possible without full commitment from Pak. Thanks to the blunders of Obama administration, the price has gone tremendously up. I don't know how the US folks can soothe Pak....
 
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Refreshing to see an honest admission.
Yes, the bottom line should be to prevent the likes of AQ getting back to Afghanistan. The Talibans maybe medieval but they don't have global Jihad enterprise; they should form a significant part of the next unity govt; the next govt should ensure that no terrorist havens are ever formed in Afghanistan.
The world should help the Afghans and the first step would be to stop the proxy games.
With no role of India ...They were/will not be allowed to put there tents behind the mountains..
 
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The US Qatar and Saudi even the Iranians have line of contact with the exact same people. Every country vouching for influence seeks leverage. The NuG of Afghanistan faces much flak for its corruptions and inability to serve.
 
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Dog can only bark and wag tail... That's exactly fit on Afghan official and their so called president. Seriously what the Hell they think they're??? :taz:
 
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KABUL: Afghan and American officials are increasingly worried that any deepening of ties between Russia and Taliban militants fighting to topple the government in Kabul could complicate an already precarious security situation.

Russian officials have denied they provide aid to the militants, who are contesting large swathes of territory and inflicting heavy casualties, and say their limited contacts are aimed at bringing the Taliban to the negotiating table.

Leaders in Kabul say Russian support for the Afghan Taliban appears to be mostly political so far. But they say a series of meetings taking place recently in Moscow and Tajikistan has made Afghan intelligence and defence officials nervous about more direct support including weapons or funding. A senior Afghan security official termed Russian support for the Taliban a “dangerous new trend”, an analysis echoed by the top US commander in Afghanistan, General John Nicholson.

He told reporters at a briefing in Washington last week that Russia had joined Iran and Pakistan as countries with a “malign influence” in Afghanistan, and said Moscow was lending legitimacy to the Taliban.

Russia’s ambassador to Kabul, Alexander Mantytskiy, told reporters on Thursday that his government’s contacts with the militant group were aimed at ensuring the safety of Russian citizens and encouraging peace talks.

“We do not have intensive contacts with the Taliban,” he said through an interpreter, adding that Russia favoured a negotiated peace in Afghanistan which could only happen by cultivating contacts with all players, including the Taliban.

Mantytskiy expressed annoyance at persistent accusations of Russian collaboration with the Taliban, saying the statements by American and Afghan officials were an effort to distract attention from the worsening conflict. “They are trying to put the blame for their failures on our shoulders,” he said.

Afghanistan has long been the scene of international intrigue and intervention, with the British and Russians jockeying for power during the 19th Century “Great Game”, and the United States helping Pakistan provide weapons and funding to Afghan militants fighting Soviet forces in the 1980s.

Taliban officials said the group has had significant contacts with Moscow since at least 2007, adding that Russian involvement did not extend beyond “moral and political support”.

“We had a common enemy,” said one senior Taliban official. “We needed support to get rid of the United States and its allies in Afghanistan and Russia wanted all foreign troops to leave Afghanistan as quickly as possible.”

Moscow has been critical of the United States and Nato over their handling of the war in Afghanistan, but Russia initially helped provide helicopters for the Afghan military and agreed to a supply route for coalition materials through Russia.

Published in Dawn, December 9th, 2016


http://www.dawn.com/news/1301365/russia-taliban-ties-worry-afghan-us-officials
Countries backing Taliban to neutralize ISIS....but who will neutralize Taliban ????
 
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Countries backing Taliban to neutralize ISIS....but who will neutralize Taliban ????

Who will neutralize the fascist hindus on our east?

Afghan Talibans are pro development. As for the laws they want to impose, are they any different from the laws in KSA? Does that mean the Saudis need to be neutralised?
 
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No. Pakistani planners must be waiting to assess what the new Trump regime is going to do. If Trump acts on even half of his foreign policy promises (of pulling back America from foreign entanglements) then Pakistan will have an opening in Afghanistan, much like it was in the mid 90's. But this time, due to geopolitical compulsions, neither Iran or Russia are likely to back Northern Alliance as they did in the 90's.

Much will depend on Trump and his Republican hawks--who tend to be a tad softer on Pakistan for some reasons. We will probably know by July 2017.

To be Honest Trump can't do half of the thing he say in his Rallies and those are not my Words but Majority of my American Friends too..as far as Afghanistan is concern he is not going to Pull back Troops cause as i mentioned its just about Afghanistan , its about Keeping check/Pressure on Pakistan and American will not Leave Afghanistan for China to pop in with some Billions of dollars and Infrastructure Projects and digs their feet In Central Asia ..

US will use India to do their Dirty Job from Afghanistan .. i am expecting the Pak-Afghan border to become more Hostile in Future ..
 
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India is not going to enter Pakistan from Kashmir they will attack from Afghanistan border, the last final battle
 
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ohh the irony

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Ghani is moaning because he can clearly see the future of his puppet govt. If Pakistan, Russia and China join together and seriously take a position to resolve afghan disputes, then US and NATO's position in Afghanistan will be weaken. There are clear signals between Russian, Pakistan and China that they are on same page on this regional geopolitics situation and Russia is getting close to Taliban is one of the sign.
 
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The Americans and Afghans are going to be pointing fingers at others. That's all there is left to do.

For some it's only easy to learn bad habits from others and seems they've only learned the bad habits of the indians who are experts at finger pointing and diffusion of responsibility
 
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Taliban was a creation and part of Pakistan's ISI.

When US was close to Pakistan, Taliban worked for US.

Later when US left, Pakistan tried to takeover Afghanistan through its proxy Taliban in the 1990s.

When US returned to Afghanistan after 2001 , Pakistan fought the US through its proxy.

Now that Russia is getting closer to Pakistan, Taliban could work for Russia.

But the day Russia does not listen to Pakistan, Pakistan would start sending Russian body bags...

Hope Russia learns some lessons from how US was back stabbed by Pakistan in Afghanistan.
 
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Taliban was a creation and part of Pakistan's ISI.

When US was close to Pakistan, Taliban worked for US.

Later when US left, Pakistan tried to takeover Afghanistan through its proxy Taliban in the 1990s.

When US returned to Afghanistan after 2001 , Pakistan fought the US through its proxy.

Now that Russia is getting closer to Pakistan, Taliban could work for Russia.

But the day Russia does not listen to Pakistan, Pakistan would start sending Russian body bags...

Hope Russia learns some lessons from how US was back stabbed by Pakistan in Afghanistan.

And you're assuming that the Russians will make the same mistake of invading Afghanistan? They don't have the capability they used to first of all and second they already learned you can't defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan. That's why they are now talking. That's why Moscow is hosting a Pakistan-Russia-China trilateral meeting on the issue.
 
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