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Oh man I just missed, the world and all countries do proagenda against Pakistan.

I agreed.:cheers:
Oh man I just missed, the world and all countries do proagenda against Pakistan.

I agreed.:cheers:
Well one thing you guys need to understand the world does not revolve around India.
I don't understand one thing if Russian's are so much under Indian influence which you guys claim . Then how come they are selling us RD-93 jet engine's for JF-17 program which will become backbone of Pakistan air Force in near future and giving political back to Pakistan in UN?
I know the sudden shift in Russian policy has really caused some panic in New Dehli circles . That's why we hear such propaganda stories after every few months
 
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Well one thing you guys need to understand the world does not revolve around India.
I don't understand one thing if Russian's are so much under Indian influence which you guys claim . Then how come they are selling us RD-93 jet engine's for JF-17 program which will become backbone of Pakistan air Force in near future and giving political back to Pakistan in UN?
I know the sudden shift in Russian policy has really caused some panic in New Dehli circles . That's why we hear such propaganda stories after every few months

Once Russia policy shift then please let us know. Till now, no chances. India and Russia were friend and also we are and hope will be
 
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Once Russia policy shift then please let us know. Till now, no chances. India and Russia were friend and also we are and hope will be
Well few months back indian members were giving long lecture about 'friendship' with Russia when we were about to buy MI-35 attack heli. That is Russia won't sell them to Pakistan because of India. Later on we found out that Russia not only sold them but will provide us spare parts facility.
Next we came to know that our new core aircraft's main component i.e. RD-93 come from same friend.
Next news started to emerge that Russia will veto any resolution by USA in UN.
And few months back Pakistan , Russia and China hold joint conference on solving Afghanistan issue.

Now you enlighten me what do you call the above actions? One thing you guys don't realize that your government is poking the bear too much in last few years. Major example was signing of defense treaty with USA. It really irked Russia.
As I said come out of your illusion "World does not revolve around India"
 
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Russian counterpart informed Khawaja Asif to meet in NY that could be due to many engagements or any other diplomatic reason. The word refuse and the description is only being reported by specific source/origin.
The "diplomatic reason" is that private meetings with Pakistani officials are counterproductive: the official will say whatever he wants afterwards to Pakistan's press, regardless of whatever actually took place in the meeting. That's why Pakistan's partners have resorted to public statements like at BRICS, or joint press conferences like the Chinese did a few days ago.
 
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Indian source so I will not take it seriously.

Russia says it will veto American sanctions against Pakistan.

So that proves everything.
 
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Well few months back indian members were giving long lecture about 'friendship' with Russia when we were about to buy MI-35 attack heli. That is Russia won't sell them to Pakistan because of India. Later on we found out that Russia not only sold them but will provide us spare parts facility.
Next we came to know that our new core aircraft's main component i.e. RD-93 come from same friend.
Next news started to emerge that Russia will veto any resolution by USA in UN.
And few months back Pakistan , Russia and China hold joint conference on solving Afghanistan issue.

Now you enlighten me what do you call the above actions? One thing you guys don't realize that your government is poking the bear too much in last few years. Major example was signing of defense treaty with USA. It really irked Russia.
As I said come out of your illusion "World does not revolve around India"

Ohh got you.

So what you will say about Russia and India relationship... You say about mi35...
Let me give small list..

Leasing nuclear submarines ( it's very common, right?)
Nuclear power plants
Su 30 mki, mig 29 k, T 90 s, frigates.... List can go on
 
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The "diplomatic reason" is that private meetings with Pakistani officials are counterproductive: the official will say whatever he wants afterwards to Pakistan's press, regardless of whatever actually took place in the meeting. That's why Pakistan's partners have resorted to public statements like at BRICS, or joint press conferences like the Chinese did a few days ago.

Nope, Pakistan's partners haven't resorted to anything, except in the reverie of certain people. If they had, they might have been a little bit clear than generally blaming some terrorists groups and would have said something incriminating or accusing against Pakistan. They most certainly didn't. I will be very interested again, if you can show me something like that in the BRIC's joint statement - minus the guessing and "this can mean that" nonsense. China and Russia have instead stepped up to enforce Pakistan's viewpoint in the War against Terror and reaffirmed their support, when they could have left Islamabad alone to face USA after Mr. Trump's statements.

For instance, this is what the Chinese foreign minister had to say after the BRIC's meeting.

Addressing a joint press conference with Pakistan foreign minister Khawaja Asif in Beijing, Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi emphasized that China fully backs Pakistan in its fight against terrorism and supports its neighbour in safeguarding its sovereignty. The relationship between China and Pakistan remain rock firm and unbreakable, Wang said, adding that China will continue to play its role in Pakistan's progress and development. The Chinese foreign minister asserted that China respects Pakistan's interests, and said there is a need to acknowledge Pakistan's efforts in countering terrorism. "Pakistan is an important participant in fight against global terrorism," he said, pointing out that Pakistan has given many sacrifices in the war on terror.
China reaffirms support for Pakistan in war against terrorism- Sep 08.2017

Does your theory make sense to you, now? You were guessing then and you are guessing now. I guess, that's what happens when you desperately try to prove the existence of something, which doesn't exist.
 
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There is little to gain giving the fragile government of Pakistan any talk time.

The world is actually waiting for Pakistan to announce its corruption free government.

Though back channel diplomacy has been ripe but the world cannot afford a silent Pakistan now.

For Pakistan its always the case of

They need us more than we need them.
 
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No, they only delayed... No one can stop Turkey-Pak-China-Russia-Iran alliance.:whistle:

Power triangle

pakistani media is not always 100% rite. you wanna know? go watch Bol tv. go. :omghaha::omghaha: you will get big hart atack watching it. :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

so now you know on indian propaganda. or american propaganda. all lies to defame iron brothership. but nothing will change. russia knows true face of india.


pakistan will soon buy more from iron brother russia. soon putin will kick india. just wait and watch.


very low name calling. my english is good for being non white.

Ok man, We and other countries do propaganda. happy now...

But fortunately, the world does not pay your pakistani thoughts.

Okay, can you explain the rationale behind this statement from Kremlin, recently, if you are propagating the isolation and countries blaming Pakistan theory. Begin.

After unequivocal and unflinching support from its ally China in the face of scathing criticism from the Donald Trump administration, Pakistan also received backing from Russia which lambasted the new US strategy in Afghanistan as a ‘futile course’. Russian presidential envoy to Afghanistan Zamir Kabulov insisted that Islamabad is “a key regional player to negotiate with”. “Putting pressure [on Pakistan] may seriously destabilise the region-wide security situation and result in negative consequences for Afghanistan,” Kabulov told Russia’s Afghanistan Daily on Tuesday. Kabulov statement came after President Trump this week heaped criticism on Pakistan for what he called harbouring the terrorists the Americans were fighting in Afghanistan.
Russia warns Trump against piling up pressure on Pakistan
 
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Why no reputable media reporting this and most important no Pakistani media reporting this? only some shitty youtube indian videos
 
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Why no reputable media reporting this and most important no Pakistani media reporting this? only some shitty youtube indian videos

Reputable media can't possibly report things that haven't happened. Imagine Russian officials refusing to meet the Pakistani foreign minister and nobody reporting it except YouTube. But, apparently, that is enough to make some people sleep better.
 
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Okay, can you explain the rationale behind this statement from Kremlin, recently, if you are propagating the isolation and countries blaming Pakistan theory. Begin.

After unequivocal and unflinching support from its ally China in the face of scathing criticism from the Donald Trump administration, Pakistan also received backing from Russia which lambasted the new US strategy in Afghanistan as a ‘futile course’. Russian presidential envoy to Afghanistan Zamir Kabulov insisted that Islamabad is “a key regional player to negotiate with”. “Putting pressure [on Pakistan] may seriously destabilise the region-wide security situation and result in negative consequences for Afghanistan,” Kabulov told Russia’s Afghanistan Daily on Tuesday. Kabulov statement came after President Trump this week heaped criticism on Pakistan for what he called harbouring the terrorists the Americans were fighting in Afghanistan.
Russia warns Trump against piling up pressure on Pakistan


I have not find anything special for pakistan. Russia is having their own interest and security concerns.

Even i was excepting more support for pakistan from Russia.

Yes, Russia can veto against US sanctions against Pakistan in UN because Russia interest is just different in Afghanistan. Here also, I don't find anything special for pakistan.

India and Russia relationship is just different.

Just bold part. What is special for pakistan? He is showing only their security concerns.

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Russian presidential envoy to Afghanistan Zamir Kabulov. PHOTO SOURCE: TWITTER/MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION

MOSCOW: After unequivocal and unflinching support from its ally China in the face of scathing criticism from the Donald Trump administration, Pakistan also received backing from Russia which lambasted the new US strategy in Afghanistan as a ‘futile course’.

Russian presidential envoy to Afghanistan Zamir Kabulov insisted that Islamabad is “a key regional player to negotiate with”.

“Putting pressure [on Pakistan] may seriously destabilise the region-wide security situation and result in negative consequences for Afghanistan,” Kabulov told Russia’s Afghanistan Daily on Tuesday
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Kabulov statement came after President Trump this week heaped criticism on Pakistan for what he called harbouring the terrorists the Americans were fighting in Afghanistan.

“We have been paying Pakistan billions and billions of dollars. At the same time they are housing the very terrorists that we are fighting,” he claimed while unveiling his new Afghan strategy. “That will have to change and that will change immediately.”

In Moscow, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Thursday called the new US strategy for Afghanistan regrettable, saying the blueprint unveiled by Trump was a ‘futile course’.

Hamid Karzai slams Trump’s latest Afghanistan policy

Speaking at a press conference on Thursday, Lavrov said Russia has expressed “regret that the main focus of the new [Afghanistan] strategy announced by Washington is regulation by methods of force”.

“We are certain this is a futile course,” he said, furthermore rejecting suggestions that Moscow was behind arming the Taliban.

In his Afghan strategy, Trump announced 4,000 new troops for deployment to Afghanistan, backtracking from his earlier promise to end America’s longest war, though other specifics of the plan remain unclear.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson suggested on Tuesday that Moscow is arming the Taliban. “To the extent Russia is supplying arms to the Taliban, that is a violation, obviously, of international norms,” he said.

“It’s not the first time we are accused of supporting and even arming the Taliban,” Lavrov said. “Not one fact has been presented” to support this.

The spokesperson for Russia’s foreign ministry Maria Zakharova reiterated the same in a press briefing.

World responds to Trump’s new Afghan strategy

The American policy “focuses on the search for a military solution to the Afghan issue, particularly through increasing the number of foreign troops,” said Zakharova, according to Russia’s official TASS news agency.

She denied US accusations on Moscow’s arms supplies to the Taliban, saying: “We once again declare that we do not provide any support to the Taliban.”

The spokesperson added that Moscow was ready to assist Kabul in training and equipping national security forces and reaffirmed its openness to cooperate with both the US and other countries

Earlier this year, a similar allegation was made by NATO commander Curtis Scaparrotti, who said Moscow is assisting and possibly supplying the Taliban and its influence is growing in Afghanistan.

Lavrov said Moscow only contacts the Taliban for two things: ensuring safety of Russian citizens in Afghanistan and pushing the Taliban to hold talks with the Afghan government.

The resurgent Taliban is an officially banned organisation recognised as a terrorist group in Russia but some Russian officials have said Moscow is exchanging information with the group when it comes to fighting Islamic State militants.

Reputable media can't possibly report things that haven't happened. Imagine Russian officials refusing to meet the Pakistani foreign minister and nobody reporting it except YouTube. But, apparently, that is enough to make some people sleep better.

This is recorded video of Pakistani anchor and guest and pakistani news. Not just fake video.
 
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