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Russia & Pakistan's Growing Engagement

i this it is a great opportunity for Pakistan to buy 72 mig-35 or su-35 from Russia
our relations are going to improve with Russia after visit of president zardari and visit of Russian army chief to Pakistan after a long time

I think if Pakistan is ever interested in Mig-35, they will buy a better, more advanced and a lot cheaper version from China..........ofcourse Russia won't mind as they will get a share of the profits apart from providing some crucial components :)
 
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can someone elaborate on this??

they wants to access o the warm water of Arab see i guess . if they get a foothold on this thae will have the chance to poke into the world busiest see line which carry two third of oil
 
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Sergei Lavrov, Russian Foreign Minister, justified it by referring to the Security Council resolution adopted after 9/11 “recognizing the US’ right of self-defense under Article 51… The right of self-defense envisages no restrictions. Those who carried out the operation, had a sound legal basis” as per “the right of self-defense under the UN Charter, confirmed moreover in the resolution of the Security Council.” Thus Article 51 allowed “a country against which an attack was made to take all necessary measures to prevent any future such attacks and punish those responsible.”3

This is a tad odd: The otherwise astute supercautious Russian foreign minister talks as if he has fallen prey to the notion that Usama bin Laden had something to do with 9/11. If his wanted poster is still on the FBI website, you will see he was never wanted for that particular operation.
 
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For last 40 years Russia is trying for a stronghold in Middle east and failed miserably. Was even shattered into pieces for its ambitions. About time Pak and Russia realize that Russia is going no where in middle east with Indian bollywood dances so reconciling the differences with Pakistan is in its best favor.
 
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As far As I can remember .. neither pakistan or india shares any border with Russia.. if you think russia wants to access pakistan through Kyrgyzstan a Tajikistan and Kazakhstan route.. they already have access to Iran through Turkmenistan, why risk anything through Unstable pkaistani route... so mybe more than my geography your logic sucks.. :azn:

Iran was also there during the 80s it hadnt vanished back than?

Why not use Krygz-Tajikstan-Pakistan route instead of such a long route through iran which will also lengthen the sea route?

P.S=It was just a suggestion........... But u wont understand it....... First learn a few things abt Pakistans stategic location.
 
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:no: They wont Provide Loans and Concessions Lyk China , Besides PAF is going to Acquire Fleet of Jf 17 [In Bulk], J 10 , F 16 With addition of 5th gen fighter [China] This Decade , No more Acquistions are Foreseen

Who knows..... U dont take the decisions for PAF nowadays do you? lol
 
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Most Russian desired that Pakistan joins SCO as a full member.
:cheers:

US:
Military aid supported military dictators, foreign aid brought a huge U.S. presence and the Afghanistan war brought, and continues to bring, millions of refugees, guns and drugs. At the same time, critique seems to accompany every act of seeming generosity: U.S. statements are full of hectoring about the sorry state of Pakistan’s economy, democracy and foreign entanglements. For many Pakistanis, the U.S. has always been part of the problem, an inappropriate, self-appointed conscience.

:agree:
 
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Iran was also there during the 80s it hadnt vanished back than?

Why not use Krygz-Tajikstan-Pakistan route instead of such a long route through iran which will also lengthen the sea route?

P.S=It was just a suggestion........... But u wont understand it....... First learn a few things abt Pakistans stategic location.



Do such retarded troll posts make u feel better abt urself ? sleep tight now.

Neither in the 80's did Russia try for pakistan... why travel through an unstable country...
 
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Access to warm waters?

That is the stupidest argument, evah!! Take a good look at the map of the region, know where Russia's friends and allies are, how Russian pipes run in the region. Pakistan is NOT the only country with warm waters!! And definitely NOT the safest!!
 
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i this it is a great opportunity for Pakistan to buy 72 mig-35 or su-35 from Russia
our relations are going to improve with Russia after visit of president zardari and visit of Russian army chief to Pakistan after a long time

After the bold statement by US following Abbottabad raid, all this frenzied "diplomacy" appears to be just knee jerk reactions on Pakistan's part. There is neither coherent short term nor long term strategy! And its not going to pay!
 
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Good luck to Pakistan. May your relationships with Russia florish and prosper. :cheers:
 
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Pakistan should improve its relation with russia and have a multi dimensional diplomatic and strategic relation with world powers
 
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well no matter how wide the rift between russia & india currently is! RUSSIA is and will be India's ally first! so yes time to be neutral towards Russia but thinking of it as an "ally" specially a one that will stand by you is expecting too much!
 
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As seen in the current events, Russia has extended it's hand in friendship towards Pakistan.

Can we have a discussion to have a deeper understanding of what both nations stand to gain in long term?

Also can we also discuss what it means for India which has been a traditional Ally of the Soviets and then Russia?

What will be India/US/China's reaction towards a another player playing a major role in the region in future?

What are geo-strategic goals of Russia in the region?

Is there a foreseeable shift in traditional allies (US/Russia) w.r.t Indo pak?
 
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