Russia Offers Su-30MKI Technology Transfer Under ‘Make-in-India’

[Ankit Kumar]

Kya bakwas hai.
We manufacture MKI with kits which we make in India itself(with support from Irkut) , of course except Radar and French / western components.

The only thing which Russia supplies is the Titanium for the fabrication of power plant.
If they mean TOT for engine, well and good else no need to fall for the trap , its another trick to milk money.

 

[Ind4Ever]

Availability of Sukois MKI gonna increase to a new height. Means more Sukois available for duties than it is today. Force Multiplier is the correct term. It's like adding one or two squadron in strength.

 

[Taygibay]

hell if India has chose the F-18 E/F would have had 100 aircraft by now

But for that, India would have had to select a plane that did not fulfill MMRCA requirements …
since the Suppa Hornet did not make the cut!

Just sayin' Tay.

 

[ni8mare]

don't India has TOT already ? :S I thought India already has full TOT of MKI...

o enable Indian industries to manufacture the LRUs through transfer of technology (TOT) from the relevant Russian manufacturers of the components, the Times of India reported on Friday.

Source: Russia Offers Su-30MKI Technology Transfer Under ‘Make-in-India’

 

[v9s]

Nope. Only Metals like Titanium and Nickel super alloys is imported. All electronic goodies and engine is made in India.

Nope. Certain engine parts are directly imported from Russia.

 

[zebra7]

Nope. Only Metals like Titanium and Nickel super alloys is imported. All electronic goodies and engine is made in India.

Radar ?

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Radar ?

Made by HAL

 

[PARIKRAMA]

What i read long back is that Indian MKI production by the end of the last plane being produced in Nashik plant will have about 85% indigenous content with maximum TOT absorption.

If this is true then rest 15% if its offered, the price and timeline for absorption is important. Also the localisation content will help also spares and servicing and effectively increase the availability percentage of birds at all times.

Also if we do get Jet engine (crystal blade+ Titanium alloy processing & fabrication for power plant), proper TOT can be used and help our indigenous engine program. The radar tech can be very useful for us. But i doubt they will share it...

I think it will be more of other 332 line sub units which can help increase aircraft availability other than the critical tech TOT.

Also these TOT being IPR protected they should be very very costly.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

What i read long back is that Indian MKI production by the end of the last plane being produced in Nashik plant will have about 85% indigenous content with maximum TOT absorption.

If this is true then rest 15% if its offered, the price and timeline for absorption is important. Also the localisation content will help also spares and servicing and effectively increase the availability percentage of birds at all times.

Also if we do get Jet engine (crystal blade+ Titanium alloy processing & fabrication for power plant), proper TOT can be used and help our indigenous engine program. The radar tech can be very useful for us. But i doubt they will share it...

I think it will be more of other 332 line sub units which can help increase aircraft availability other than the critical tech TOT.

Also these TOT being IPR protected they should be very very costly.

Dude the engine and the crystal blade and Radar is made in HAL.

This agreement is for sharing the LRU's ToT to other suppliers. HAL cannot do that since the IP is held by Russians.

Only Russia can grant licence to built them outside HAL. Its a big boost to IAF since IAF is no more reliant on HAL for provide Spares.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Dude the engine and the crystal blade and Radar is made in HAL.

This agreement is for sharing the LRU's ToT to other suppliers. HAL cannot do that since the IP is held by Russians.

Only Russia can grant licence to built them outside HAL. Its a big boost to IAF since IAF is no more reliant on HAL for provide Spares.

Sir, I partially disagree. We make them true but not completely indigenous as we do get some Raw materials from Russia


First Source Business standard by Ajai Shukla (i know not very credible) OC 23,2014
First Sukhoi-30 overhauled at Nashik, highlights HAL's growing capability | Business Standard News

Quote
"Through years of building the Su-30MKI, HAL Nashik has gradually mastered the expertise that makes it one of the world's most feared fighters. Says the chief of HAL's Nashik facility, S Subrahmanyan: "More 51 per cent of the Su-30MKI by value is currently made in India, a little more than the 49 per cent agreed with Russia in the contract signed in 2000 to build 140 fighters in India.

Of the 43,000 components that go into a Su-30MKI, 31,500 components - or 73 per cent - are now being built in India.

Further indigenisation is blocked since the Indo-Russian contract mandates that all raw material that goes into the Su-30MKI - including 5,800 titanium blocks and forgings, aluminium and steel plates, etc - must be sourced from Russia. The contract also stipulates that another 7,146 items like nuts, bolts, screws and rivets must be sourced from Russia.

HAL has also partially indigenised the Su-30MKI's giant AL-31FP engines, which are built in Koraput, Odisha. Fifty-three per cent of the engine by cost has been indigenised, with the remaining 47 per cent consisting of high-tech composites and special alloys - proprietary secrets that Russia will not part with. Even so, HAL builds 87.7 per cent of the engine's components in India."

Second Source
Dr Anantha Krishnana M Jan,2015
HAL propels fortunes of Koraput Engine Division with gen-next projects - Oneindia
Quote from the article
Since inception, the division has manufactured and overhauled R-25, R-29B, RD-33 and AL-31FP engines to power the MiG-21 series, MiG-27M, MiG-29 and Su-30 MKI aircraft.

Sukhoi facility on full throttle The Sukhoi (Su-30 MKI) engine facility is a marvel by itself with some of the gen-next technologies already being used, including a robotic welding system. Speaking to OneIndia, Rajaram Mohanty, Officiating General Manager (Sukhoi Engine Divison), said that a total of 23 engines have been made from the raw material phase now.

"The division has so far manufactured close to 280 engines (AL-31FP) for the Sukhois, while around 158 have been overhauled. The first engine from the raw material phase was rolled out during 2011-12. We are also fully equipped for the long testing (three months) of Sukhoi engines," says Rajaram.
"


Third Source
http://www.en.take-off.ru/pdf_to/to02.pdf
Old source but relevant in terms of what was signed as per contract

"
Licence production
Simultaneously with the final deliveries under the 1996 contract, HAL's Nasik plant started licence production of Su-30MKIs. As envisioned by the 28 December 2000 contract, the Nasik facility will build 140 Su-30MKI fighters until 2017–2018. Russian companies will also assist HAL plants with launching indigenous production of AL-31FP engines and avionics for the warplanes. The multitier licence production plan stipulates gradual transition to fully indigenous construction of Su-30MKI fighters. In the first phase HAL will merely assemble airplanes from kits supplied by Russia. In the second phase Russia will be shipping separate systems and units; in the third phase separate parts and assemblies; and in the fourth phase HAL will only be receiving materials from Russia – by that time the Indian corporation
will have gained competence in indigenous production of all Su-30MKI parts, assemblies, units and systems. HAL is expected to manufacture about 80 per cent of all the aircraft during this fourth phase (114 of the 140 warplanes stipulated by the contract, according to the Indian press).

In the autumn of 2004 HAL rolled out the first two Su-30MKIs assembled from kits supplied by Irkut corporation. The first
Indian-assembled fighter performed its maiden flight on 1 October 2004. On 28 November 2004 this aircraft and the second Indian-built Su-30MKI were handed over to the IAF in a solemn ceremony at the Nasik plant. These two airplanes were assigned numbers SB 101 and SB 102. Russian test pilot Sergey Matveychuk and Wg Cdr K R Ajit performed a demonstration flight on Su-30MKI No SB 102 in the presence of the Indian defence minister, IAF Commander-in-Chief, HAL president and numerous guests.

HAL is expected to build another six Su-30MKIs by the end of 2005 and eight more during 2006. After that the annual production rate should increase to 12 aircraft. According to the Indian press, HAL may also build up to 920 AL-31FP engines under Russian licence. Russian companies are assisting HAL in refurbishing and modernising its production
facilities that will take part in Su-30MKI construction. These include the aircraft division in Nasik, engine division in Koraput, accessories division in Lucknow and avionics divisions in Hyderabad and Korwa. The key Russian specialists cooperating on the licence production programme are Irkut corporation (airframe production and final assembly),UMPO (AL-31FP production) and Ryazan State Instrument-Making Plant (the Bars radar). In 2002 Russia began handing manufacturing documents for the airframe, engine and avionics over to HAL, later followed by production equipment. Part of the requisite tooling will be manufactured in India. Retooling of HAL's facilities will be accomplished within several years. By the end of the decade Indian aerospace industry will be capable of independently building such hitech and science-intensive warplanes as the Su-30MKI. Licence production will increase the IAF's Su-30MKI fleet to 190 fighters by the end of the 2010s. Most of these aircraft will remain in service until the 2030s–40s and beyond, and will significantly influence the balance of powers in the region."

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Isn't that what I said ?

 

[Providence]

Does any indian even comprehend the implications of "85% ToT absorption" ?

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Does any indian even comprehend the implications of "85% ToT absorption" ?

Nope.

We wait for Americans to tell us what that means.

No blacks or hispanics, only Whites allowed. Happy ?