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Russia offers Pakistan 10 Helicopters to enhance better understanding

It is all about 10 Helicopters for NATO/Afghanistan issue. Not much about increase in defence capability.


India-Russia have JV/Deal worth more than 50 Billion $ till 2032 (Till Date, even if we don't buy or start new JV).

US, France, UK, Europe can sell/Give anything to Pakistan. But Russia and Israel not possible.

and you bring your billions for what show us your pride lolz we have no billions and even if we have i would like to see them to pay for public services .10 helicopters sure increase our capability and we are happy with 10 .
 
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there is any request from pakistan which deny by them? france huh you know kickbacks which zardari sarkozi got from agusta deals? its only matter of money which currently not for defense because last ten years pakistan buy it much much .this list or arms ban on pakistan for which reason? are we going to be under sanctions? its only indian phobia man just look at pipe line whats coming on the way to pakistan is enough .lolz may be you don't know but we already gear up domestic production since 30 years and we are doing well but some of items really needed from nations and we got it .pakistan is not north korea or a banned nation or rouge state pakistani forces may be in india symbol of hate but its same force which number-1 contributers in un peace missions which join many international alliances tiem to time and still if you think we will tide up and we are unable to buy without chines arms its same indian minds i can't help .this reallty has another face that MI-17V5 saab-2000awacs il-78 refulers emberior jets mar-1 missiles mrttp are on they way to pakistan .simply tell me why should world deny us when we pay them? or its single door in world for arms?because you guys don't like ? or you think current status of pakistan is forever?i see no any problem in this issue if russia deny mi-17 there is USA if usa deny there is france if france deny eu and if eu deny there is china but simply why should someone deny they don't need money lolz?

Old agreements are being honoured.
What about the new ones!!!
I believe your PM or Prez had to cut short the visit to France coz France was finding it difficult to host him and the yet to arrive Nirupama Rao!!!

As for as pipeline goes all the best and my wishes:)
 
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these 10 Mi-17s were already on order - nothing new in this so called 'enhancement' of relations - if there is enhancement of relations then more than just 'un-armed' helos should be offereed. no fire-no smoke!
 
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The 10 Super Sukhoi 1000 jets would also make wonderful addition for PIA that operates older planes that eat more fuel etc
looks like a very capable passenger plane

PIA has operated wet leased Russian aircraft (Tu-154) during Hajj operations

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It is all about 10 Helicopters for NATO/Afghanistan issue. Not much about increase in defence capability.


India-Russia have JV/Deal worth more than 50 Billion $ till 2032 (Till Date, even if we don't buy or start new JV).

US, France, UK, Europe can sell/Give anything to Pakistan. But Russia and Israel not possible.

what you say current russian made weapons list of pakistan , are not you was same cry baby for RD-93 ? il-78 give us a boom ak=101 ak-103 give good weapons in hands of SSG ? shotra give best protection for alkhalid? BTR apc in nice too for army 96 mi-17 choppers are really backbone of paksitan air lift .draganov is best sniper for FC .RPG licence production in pof wah give very nice hand on rockets to pakistan.and there is many more lolz ask only israel is in your hand and china in ours now tell me which is big producer israel or china?
 
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Old agreements are being honoured.
What about the new ones!!!
I believe your PM or Prez had to cut short the visit to France coz France was finding it difficult to host him and the yet to arrive Nirupama Rao!!!

As for as pipeline goes all the best and my wishes:)

are you seriusly think at this time we are looking for arms from french ? i dont think so after we go to youan class 6 subs french germany should do it lolz ahahahahhaa its first time in last 30 years we move from french to china for subs so they have right to be angry
 
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are you seriusly think at this time we are looking for arms from french ? i dont think so after we go to youan class 6 subs french germany should do it lolz ahahahahhaa its first time in last 30 years we move from french to china for subs so they have right to be angry

As i said China is your best bet:)
 
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As i said China is your best bet:)

it is yes and we are so so happy to deal with them .you can see in 50s 60s 70s 80s when west was our main partner they never give us high tech TOT or ever licenses to produce its china which give us every tech tot and even teach us to produce by our own .alkhalid f-22p jf-17 k-8 FAC A-100MLRS bakter shiken atgm J-10 ZDK-03 are best examples i think west will never transfer them so easy as china does .so why not ?china is future and china is our future too .look from 1947 till 2011 china pakistan relation .
 
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Hi, there is no way Russia will sell Pakistan heavy offensive weapons, simply no way. The reason is, they will upset the large sales to India. It is basic economics.

Besides India is buying close to 140 brand new Mi-17s. This dwarfs Pakistan's potential sale of 10.

India to buy more Mi-17 military helos
 
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Relation with RUSSIA is developing in slow phase.Pakistan should accept this offer even its just small deal yet it will open further horizon of new and advanced weapon deal in future and will also strengthen mutual confidence and friendship between both regional countries.So take small step ahead to to run together in future.
 
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We we have to view the scenario from Pakistan's stand point 10 Mi 17 allow us more capabilities to rescue and search operations and counter terrorism since Pakistan has less territory

We need about 50-70 Mi17 and getting 10-20 every next year does enhances our capabilities in that sector

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Clearly having MI17 , 10-50 units in army would help us better provide food airlift and help with search and rescue mission
 
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We we have to view the scenario from Pakistan's stand point 10 Mi 17 allow us more capabilities to rescue and search operations and counter terrorism since Pakistan has less territory

We need about 50-70 Mi17 and getting 10-20 every next year does enhances our capabilities in that sector

Floods-in-Sindh-province-007.jpg


Clearly having MI17 , 10-50 units in army would help us better provide food airlift and help with search and rescue mission

That is exactly what i was thinking. We need helis specifically dedicated for the areas hit by natural calamities. Plus if Russians are offering to expand PSM it is a great opportunity. Pakistan must build relations with Russians and it does not mean that military is the only sphere where we can cooperate but there are lots of other economics related areas where both countries can benefit from each other. Last but not least, we must get out of this India military centric mindset in foreign relations. Economic cooperation is more vital for our national interest than weapon systems. Strong Pak-Russia economic ties would really benefit us more than some weapons. We will get them, if Not from Russia may be from China.
 
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