Russia lifts embargo on weapons supplies to Pakistan

[SHAMK9]

There is a RT blog on this subject asking why is Russia lifting the arms embargo with Pakistan? I am reading this now
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The blog is written by an Indian sitting in New Delhi

i love that.

Any links to that forum?

 

[Umair Nawaz]

The blog is written by an Indian sitting in New Delhi


Any links to that forum?

type indiandefence in google it will open up.

 

[Zarvan]

Most likely no attack helicopters, only additional MI-17's and improved RD93's with more thrusts. Except to see the T-129 soon in PA's colours, procuring and setting up a new attack helicopter from Russia is too big of an investment with lots of risks.

Sir Russians are saying they are trying to sell us Mi-35 that is an attack helicopter not transport Sir

 

[Tshering22]

Pakistan won't be acquiring any attack helis from Russia. As i previously repeated, most likely additional MI-17's and improved versions of RD-93. PA will procureT-129 as its next generation attack helicopters. It simply does not make any sense to acquire and create new infrastructure for a Russian based attack heli because Russia is not considered a reliable partner.

And you think that t-129 is cost effecyive? Being a new platform and incorporating latest tech, it is quite expensive.

You could definitely do with a light gunship though there are hardly any choices.

Currently PA has limited choices if it has to dismiss US made gunships.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Pakistan won't be acquiring any attack helis from Russia. As i previously repeated, most likely additional MI-17's and improved versions of RD-93. PA will procureT-129 as its next generation attack helicopters. It simply does not make any sense to acquire and create new infrastructure for a Russian based attack heli because Russia is not considered a reliable partner.

Sir big portion of PA air fleet is russian so it would not hurt them to induct armed russian helis. Mi-25 is the best bet for PAK western front where next generation latest technology is not required but must have T-129 for eastern front.

 

[alibaz]

Sir big portion of PA air fleet is russian so it would not hurt them to induct armed russian helis. Mi-25 is the best bet for PAK western front where next generation latest technology is not required but must have T-129 for eastern front.

I think they already fly an MI-24 occasionally but surely not for operations.

 

[Zarvan]

What Anti Tank Missiles can be fitted into MI-25 and MI 35 ?

 

[RAMPAGE]

Jehad, nowadays means exactly that. Now what you need to do is, get your arse back to Pakistan and meet Zarvi types and go on Jehad. So our boys can target practice you Arab lovers.

Only apologetic and easily embarrassed Muslims think that.

FYI our boys also have a motto.

Iman, Taqwa, Jihad fi Sabilillah !!!

 

[Zarvan]

FYI our boys also have a motto.

Iman, Taqwa, Jihad fi Sabilillah !!!

What Anti Tank Missiles can be fitted in MI-35 ?

 

[Desert Fox]

Putin I always respected to be a man of his words and he said he will not sell 'offensive' weapons to Pakistan while he was in India but if Russia does sell these attack helicopters it will be a bit of a shock for India to say the least.

These helicopters are outdated by today's standards and cannot be used against modern Tank/mechanized formations protected by layers of SAM's and other forms of anti aircraft systems.

Makes more sense to use these against Taliban in Western Pakistan.

 

[fatman17]

i will believe it when i see it.....

 

[RAMPAGE]

What Anti Tank Missiles can be fitted in MI-35 ?

Sirjee mai tai kadi nai uraya.

Kaday google ve kar lia karo !!!

9K114 Shturm.

 

[fatman17]

Report: Russia Lifts Arms Embargo To Pakistan

Jun. 2, 2014 - 02:55PM | By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE |

Russia is reportedly in talks to sell Mi-35 helicopters to Pakistan. (AFP)

MOSCOW — Russia has lifted its embargo on arms supplies to Pakistan and is holding talks on supplying Islamabad with combat helicopters, the head of state-owned Rostec, Sergei Chemezov, said Monday, the ITAR-TASS news agency reported.

“Such a decision has been taken. We are holding talks on supplying the helicopters,” Chemezov said, adding that the negotiations were about Russian Mi-35 Hind attack helicopters.

Russia has long been the largest supplier of arms to India, which is the world’s top arms buyer.
But Moscow’s move to supply Islamabad came as New Delhi is seeking to modernize its armed forces’ aging hardware and has recently chosen to buy arms from Israel, France, Britain and the United States.

Leading Russian defense commentator Pavel Felgenhauer said the lifting of the embargo that had been in force since the Soviet era marked a sea change in Russian policy on arms sales, which until now have been focused on India amid difficult relations between New Delhi and Islamabad.

“This is an important, key change in Russian policy in the region,” he told AFP.

“The sale of arms to Pakistan will abruptly worsen our relations with India, the main buyer of our arms... This risks dismantling our cooperation with India,” Felgenhauer said.

 

[HttpError]

You won't get any attack helicopters from Russia. It simply will not be on offer unless India agrees & I simply don't see India agreeing.

Lol as if Russian would take any dictations from India ? You joking right ? Sooner or later it was destined to happen, Russia will have close ties with Pakistan due to our geographical position, our influence on Afghanistan and very close relationships with M.E so there is not much India can do now Yeah except whining

 

[Zarvan]

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Russia has just announced a hugely strategic decision that may alter the regional power matrix and bug India at a time when the just-installed Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi was looking to deepen ties with Moscow.

Sergey Chemezov, head of Russian state-run technologies corporation Rostec, announced on Monday that Russia has lifted an embargo on supplying weapons and military hardware to Pakistan. He also said that Moscow is negotiating the delivery of several Mi-25 helicopter gunships to Islamabad. "The decision was taken and we are negotiating the delivery of helicopters," the Voice of Russia quoted Chemezov as saying.

Why this move and why now?
The Russian decision is indicative of a paradigm shift in Russian foreign policy, a kind of move which one sees once in several decades.

Naturally, when a state takes such a decision it must not be without considering the pros and cons of the matter, the strategic takeaways and the possible pitfalls.

Two compelling reasons for the Russian move may well be Afghanistan and the Russia-West spat over Ukraine.

Like India and China, Russia too is waiting with bated breath the post-2014 Afghanistan as American/NATO are scheduled to pull out most of their troops from the land-locked country by this year end. The Taliban is in a resurgent mode. Everybody knows that during the Taliban rule (1996-2001), Afghanistan had become the most productive and flourishing factory of jihad in the world. Therefore, the withdrawal of American/NATO troops from Afghanistan by the end of 2014 may well turn the country into a tinder box again.

While Russia would definitely not like this scenario, it can hardly change the situation and counter the new situation with a Plan B. Pakistan’s importance would increase enormously in the post-2014 situation in Afghanistan.

Improving relations with Pakistan would give an important leverage to Russia in the post-2014 Afghanistan. If Russia and China do not want the loose canons of the Taliban to unleash themselves at them, then it is Pakistan and no one else that can make it happen.

The Russian move may be far shrewder than one can think. It may well be indicative of a China-Russia-Pakistan (CRP) axis, largely because of flawed policies of the Obama administration.

Russia and Pakistan have had a rather cold relationship, despite the latter’s sustained attempts over recent years to mend the ties. Reasons for the Russian coldness toward Pakistan are not difficult to see. It is the India factor. India clearly does not favor Russia cozying up to Pakistan and Russia could not have afforded to annoy the Indians. Why, after all, Russia should play a zero-sum game in South Asia when it is having the best of relations with India, a sworn enemy of Pakistan?

That was the argument of most Russians who opposed the very idea of needling India, the largest importer of Russian weapons. But even this defense relationship received setbacks in the past two years as Russia lost out to other competitors like Israel, the United States and Europe on several big-ticket Indian defense deals.

The India angle
Let me begin the India angle in this context with two seemingly contradictory statements.

One, the Russian decision of lifting its embargo on weapons supplies to Pakistan is a huge setback to India. Two, India and Russia will continue to do business together as both need each other immensely.

It is highly unlikely that the Russian move would have come as a complete surprise to the Indians. New Delhi has been aware of formal consultations between Russia and Pakistan in the trilateral format on Afghanistan – the third country being China.

It is quite possible that Moscow may have taken the Indians into its confidence on its upcoming policy change and put forth its strategic compulsions.

Russia and India are working very closely in the Afghan theater and have embarked on a novel understanding wherein India pays for Russian arms supplied by Russia to Afghanistan for boosting Afghan armed forces’ capabilities. Is there a possibility that the Russians have taken a sort of ‘no-objection certificate’ from the Indians for their unprecedented outreach to Pakistan?

One cannot rule out anything. Games such as these are often played on the strategic chessboards. What can be a bigger strategic chessboard than Afghanistan where all the top powers of the world are directly involved?

Moreover, one should not expect an official statement from either Moscow or New Delhi on this issue. Games such as these are often played in the back alleys, far from the media glare.

The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.
Why is Russia lifting embargo on military supplies to Pakistan? — RT Op-Edge
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