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Talks on the construction of the Russia to India oil pipeline project should conclude by mid-2014, officials from ONGC said.

Thus, Russia is changing its energy export policy vector as strong demand for hydrocarbons, both in China and in India, one of the largest economies in the world, continues to grow. The benefits are obvious, including those in connection with India's plans to become a member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). China supports the pipeline oil supplies to India, which is not surprising. One of the project’s options is the construction of a pipeline from the Altai region through the north-west of China to the north of India. Director of the Center for Strategic Studies in Energy of the People’s Republic of China, Xia Yishan says, “The project is beneficial for both India and China, as it would allow China to become an oil transit in addition to its ‘status’ of recipient of the Russian oil.” For Russia, the project’s additional benefit is providing oil to the SCO

“Russia and India have agreed to establish a joint group to study the possibility of direct ground transportation of hydrocarbons” the joint statement by Vladimir Putin and Manmohan Singh in December. The discussion of such a project began back in 2005. At the end of last year, ONGC supported its implementation, by saying “The pipeline from Russia seems appropriate. The details of the project will be clarified with the Russian partners.”

According to the director of the Gas business agency Michael Yermolovich, the project may be associated with the creation of a Russian-Indian petrochemical joint venture in Gujarat. Investment in this venture is estimated at $450 million, its capacity is estimated at 100,000 tonnes of finished products per year.

In general, India is planning to significantly increase its reserves of the black gold, due to an increase in domestic demand. Secretary of the Indian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Ajay Bisaria said that “in 2013, the oil purchases in Russia amounted to $176 million, but India intends to buy more. This requires an overland route.” Up to 35 percent of the pipeline falls in mountainous terrain. The project’s preliminary cost would be $30 billion and the completion of construction is planned for 2020-2022.

As for the Western market, due to the crisis in the Eurocurrency zone, the demand for oil there is very volatile. In addition, if they want to “put pressure” on Moscow, the EU can increases its import of crude from Norway, North Africa, the Gulf and even Trinidad, but this is the EU’s
In addition to that, the EU complains about the low domestic prices for oil and gas in Russia, that is why many goods manufactured in Russia are taxed by antidumping restrictions. Timur Nigmatullin, analyst in Investkafe said, “The use of so-called energy corrections by the European Union looks like an attempt to level one of our economy’s key competition advantages. This approach introduced unjustified anti-dumping duties, which is why Russian businesses annually lose more than $600 million.”

In short, there is a need for new markets, especially those where integration processes with Russia’s participation are developed. This is primarily the SCO. “The growth of mutual investments by Russia and China is accompanied by greater activity of the Russian and Chinese business in other SCO countries, - said the president of the International Organization of Creditors Robert Abdullin. “Economic growth in these countries is more favourable than it is in the industrialized countries.” Countries like India, Pakistan, Mongolia, Vietnam and their neighbours would naturally be attracted to working in close partnership with the SCO, including a partnership in the energy sector.


Talks on Russia to India oil pipeline make headway | Russia & India Report


First China and now India:D:D:D

Sanctions anyone? :lol::lol::lol:
 
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There is another alternate way for the pipe line through Iran and from there under water pipeline will guarantee the continuous supply just in case there are frictions between India and China.
 
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There is another alternate way for the pipe line through Iran and from there under water pipeline will guarantee the continuous supply just in case there are frictions between India and China.

That will not happen .this is not kindergarten game .We are talking about 30 billion$ investment here.And there is another plan for underwater pipeline from iran is also in progress .We can influence sealines in Indian ocean.

Talks on the construction of the Russia to India oil pipeline project should conclude by mid-2014, officials from ONGC said.

Thus, Russia is changing its energy export policy vector as strong demand for hydrocarbons, both in China and in India, one of the largest economies in the world, continues to grow. The benefits are obvious, including those in connection with India's plans to become a member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). China supports the pipeline oil supplies to India, which is not surprising. One of the project’s options is the construction of a pipeline from the Altai region through the north-west of China to the north of India. Director of the Center for Strategic Studies in Energy of the People’s Republic of China, Xia Yishan says, “The project is beneficial for both India and China, as it would allow China to become an oil transit in addition to its ‘status’ of recipient of the Russian oil.” For Russia, the project’s additional benefit is providing oil to the SCO

“Russia and India have agreed to establish a joint group to study the possibility of direct ground transportation of hydrocarbons” the joint statement by Vladimir Putin and Manmohan Singh in December. The discussion of such a project began back in 2005. At the end of last year, ONGC supported its implementation, by saying “The pipeline from Russia seems appropriate. The details of the project will be clarified with the Russian partners.”

According to the director of the Gas business agency Michael Yermolovich, the project may be associated with the creation of a Russian-Indian petrochemical joint venture in Gujarat. Investment in this venture is estimated at $450 million, its capacity is estimated at 100,000 tonnes of finished products per year.

In general, India is planning to significantly increase its reserves of the black gold, due to an increase in domestic demand. Secretary of the Indian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Ajay Bisaria said that “in 2013, the oil purchases in Russia amounted to $176 million, but India intends to buy more. This requires an overland route.” Up to 35 percent of the pipeline falls in mountainous terrain. The project’s preliminary cost would be $30 billion and the completion of construction is planned for 2020-2022.

As for the Western market, due to the crisis in the Eurocurrency zone, the demand for oil there is very volatile. In addition, if they want to “put pressure” on Moscow, the EU can increases its import of crude from Norway, North Africa, the Gulf and even Trinidad, but this is the EU’s
In addition to that, the EU complains about the low domestic prices for oil and gas in Russia, that is why many goods manufactured in Russia are taxed by antidumping restrictions. Timur Nigmatullin, analyst in Investkafe said, “The use of so-called energy corrections by the European Union looks like an attempt to level one of our economy’s key competition advantages. This approach introduced unjustified anti-dumping duties, which is why Russian businesses annually lose more than $600 million.”

In short, there is a need for new markets, especially those where integration processes with Russia’s participation are developed. This is primarily the SCO. “The growth of mutual investments by Russia and China is accompanied by greater activity of the Russian and Chinese business in other SCO countries, - said the president of the International Organization of Creditors Robert Abdullin. “Economic growth in these countries is more favourable than it is in the industrialized countries.” Countries like India, Pakistan, Mongolia, Vietnam and their neighbours would naturally be attracted to working in close partnership with the SCO, including a partnership in the energy sector.


Talks on Russia to India oil pipeline make headway | Russia & India Report


First China and now India:D:D:D

Sanctions anyone? :lol::lol::lol:

I think in future .Russia will supply oil to both India and China and Russian energy may constitute half of their needs.
 
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That will not happen .this is not kindergarten game .We are talking about 30 billion$ investment here.And there is another plan for underwater pipeline from iran is also in progress .We can influence sealines in Indian ocean.

How can you so sure it will not happen?

Can you explain what is the kindergarten game going on here ??
 
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How can you so sure it will not happen?

Can you explain what is the kindergarten game going on here ??

Once this pipeline happened it may become lifeline of our country.If China threaten that lifeline we will use any methods in our disposal including complete shut down of trade lines of China through Indian Ocean .And such things will not happen.
 
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Once this pipeline happened it may become lifeline of our country.If China threaten that lifeline we will use any methods in our disposal including complete shut down of trade lines of China through Indian Ocean .And such things will not happen.

I have been saying for a long time now.

Russia-india-china will cooperate in the future,its inevitable;)
 
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Once this pipeline happened it may become lifeline of our country.If China threaten that lifeline we will use any methods in our disposal including complete shut down of trade lines of China through Indian Ocean .And such things will not happen.

Once China threatens ..... :lol:

Why would you give your hand to china first ..... so that China can twist it when it wants and how it wants ..... :lol:

Nice strategic thinking and Kindergarten nerd game you are playing there.

There are many nations which are willing to support India - Russia strategic plans in Central Asia other than China. Economically or safety wise through Iran is the best option available there.
 
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Once China threatens ..... :lol:

Why would you give your hand to china first ..... so that China can twist it when it wants and how it wants ..... :lol:

Nice strategic thinking and Kindergarten nerd game you are playing there.

It will not happen.
 
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We should evaluate the offer and if it is worth, then should sign the deal.

The only worrying part is this pipeline will come through China.
 
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Once China threatens ..... :lol:

Why would you give your hand to china first ..... so that China can twist it when it wants and how it wants ..... :lol:

Nice strategic thinking and Kindergarten nerd game you are playing there.

So what is your suggestions?
Look man .Whether we like it or not now we spend so much money of our GDP for oil import .A pipeline from Russia will feasible than it at any case.Beside ONGC is in negotiation with Russia for this from 2005.Now they agree with this .And I think they are too smart than us.
Finally it is deal with Russia.Once it happens it will become a main income source of Russia ,a game with billions, may be trillions of dollars.So they will not allow such things.
Whatever happens, India or China will not touch this project .Because in economic sense we both are vulnerable to each other.
 
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That will not happen .this is not kindergarten game .We are talking about 30 billion$ investment here.And there is another plan for underwater pipeline from iran is also in progress .We can influence sealines in Indian ocean.
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Kindergarden game ? what are you on about, Russia is a truth worthy ally and would be a very reliable energy supplier
 
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India is reviving its Relation With Russia Strongly Like Soviet Times.You May see Modi Will Do Something To strengthening this Relationship Like in 70's Soviet-Indian Relations Was At prime That time Made the West Conscious:agree::agree::agree:

never trust the Chinese !bad move we must look for an alternate way
Why Not we trust the Chinese give a Reason For that
 
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