Russia deployed nuclear missiles on NATO doorstep, Europe 'alarmed'

[war&peace]

As if there is anyone thinking of moving into Russian territory... what a hype.

I thinking this just posturing but both sides are doing that.

 

[Penguin]

But if it becomes necessary, Russia can use other longer range options and this way UK is not out of Russia's range...e.g. Topol-M

Moving off-topic from Iskander + You do realize both UK and France have their own nukes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_de_dissuasion
Rafale + ASMP-A on land and carrier based, SSBNs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_the_United_Kingdom
SSBNs

 

[war&peace]

Moving off-topic from Iskander + You do realize both UK and France have their own nukes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_de_dissuasion
Rafale + ASMP-A on land and carrier based, SSBNs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_the_United_Kingdom
SSBNs

Yes I do so?
Russia says U.S. actions threaten its national security

 

[mike2000 is back]

This is to warn Europe if they sided with US in case of war they are history bye bye
We can see the effects already and they are talky about their in interest OMG good job Russia

LOL You are funny. Dont know what you are talking about.

 

[Penguin]

Russian Military has deployed Iskander even in Arctic region and even near to the Ukraine border. Its possible its even been deployed in Syria.

So?

B-61 bombs 180 were deployed with NATO allies in Europe as per as 2013 reports.

So?

As of late 2013, there were 200 B61 bombs actively in use by the United States. Of these, 180 were deployed with NATO allies in Europe. As of 2005, they were deployed in Europe under the NATO nuclear sharing arrangement.

The B61 has been deployed by a variety of U.S. military aircraft. Aircraft cleared for its use have included the FB-111A, B-1 Lancer, B-2 Spirit, B-52 Stratofortress; F-101 Voodoo, F-100 D & F Super Sabre, F-104 Starfighter, F/A-18 Hornet, F-111 Aardvark and F-4 Phantom II fighter bombers; A-4 Skyhawk, A-6 Intruder and A-7 Corsair II attack aircraft; the F-15 Eagle, F-15E Strike Eagle and F-16 Falcon; British, German and Italian Panavia Tornado IDS aircraft. USAFE and all NATO dual role aircraft can carry B61s. The Lockheed S-3 Viking was also able to deploy the B61 as a nuclear depth bomb. The B61 cannot fit inside the F-22 Raptor's weapons bays and will instead be carried by the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb

As of 2005, 180 tactical B61 nuclear bombs of the 480 U.S. nuclear weapons believed to be deployed in Europe fall under the nuclear sharing arrangement. The weapons are stored within a vault in hardened aircraft shelters, using the USAF WS3 Weapon Storage and Security System. The delivery warplanes used are F-16s and Panavia Tornados.

After the Soviet Union collapsed, the nuclear weapon types shared within NATO were reduced to tactical nuclear bombs deployed by Dual-Capable Aircraft (DCA).
The only German nuclear base is located in Büchel Air Base, near the border with Luxembourg. The base has 11 Protective Aircraft Shelters (PAS) equipped with WS3 Vaults for storage of nuclear weapons (maximum capacity of 44). There are 20 B61 nuclear bombs stored on the base for delivery by German PA-200 Tornado IDS bombers of the JaBoG 33 squadron. By 2015 Germany's Tornado IDS aircraft were due to be retired, and it is unclear what nuclear sharing role, if any, Germany will then retain.
In Italy around 40 B61 nuclear bombs (types 3, 4 and 10) are stored in Ghedi Air Base. They can be delivered by the Panavia Tornado IDS bombers of the 6th wing.[citation needed] The former Italian President Francesco Cossiga acknowledged the presence of U.S. nuclear weapons in Italy, and speculated about the possible presence of British and French nuclear weapons.
On 10 June 2013, former Dutch prime minister Ruud Lubbers confirmed the existence of 22 shared nuclear bombs at Volkel Air Base.
According to the press, Eastern European Member States of NATO have resisted the withdrawal of the shared nuclear bombs from Europe, fearing it would show a weakening of U.S. commitment to defend Europe against Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing

If you come out of your obsession of Pakistan for a moment, you will see that this thread about Russian move of deploying a nuclear capable missile called Iskandar.

Yeah well, a lot of military gear is nuclear capable. That doesn't mean there actually are nukes stuck on to them.

 

[war&peace]

Yeah well, a lot of military gear is nuclear capable. That doesn't mean there actually are nukes stuck on to them.

If you care to read I actually use my the words carefully so I said nuclear "CAPABLE" not nuclear "TIPPED". Do you know the difference? . I'm disappointed actually by this level of posting by a PDF TTA

 

[Penguin]

This is to warn Europe if they sided with US in case of war they are history bye bye
We can see the effects already and they are talky about their in interest OMG good job Russia

Who else should / could Europe possibly side with? Russia? After the Soviet occupatiuon of Eastern Europe? Haha ....

I have a right to my opinion.If Europe wants to turn into a radio active waste land in an American war then hey so be it.

You have the right to your opinion, however ignorant and misguided it may be.

go ahead,

It was already done. And the more you imply not to care, to disrespect the rules of this forum, the deeper the kaka you will eventually be in. Good luck.

Yes I do so?
Russia says U.S. actions threaten its national security

Good. Then you know using tactical nukes will trigger a full scale response.

 

[Mitro]

They should stay neutral and keep good relation with west European and Russia

Who else should / could Europe possibly side with? Russia? After the Soviet occupatiuon of Eastern Europe? Haha ....

 

[Penguin]

They should stay neutral and keep good relation with west European and Russia

Who, the US? And good relations is a two-way street.

 

[Hindustani78]

Moving off-topic from Iskander + You do realize both UK and France have their own nukes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_de_dissuasion
Rafale + ASMP-A on land and carrier based, SSBNs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_the_United_Kingdom
SSBNs

Russian Federation is backing President Assad and we know that France military is fighting along side with US against ISIS, today's news ISIS militants killed two Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and wounded two French soldiers earlier this month north of the IS-controlled city of Mosul

The French newspaper Le Monde reported on Tuesday that the drone had been intercepted in flight on Oct. 2 and exploded near the Kurdish and French soldiers when it hit the ground. It was unclear, Le Monde said, whether the drone was remotely detonated or carried a timed bomb.


The two wounded French soldiers were immediately returned to France for medical treatment and one of them was "between life and death", according to Le Monde. It said other French soldiers were also lightly wounded by the blast but gave no details.

French government spokesman Stephane Le Foll confirmed the injuries.

"Yes. They were injured by a drone that landed and then exploded," he told reporters after a weekly cabinet meeting.



When French Aircraft carrier Charles De Gaulle in 2015 carried out attacks against ISIS in Iraq , there was terrorist attack inside France.

 

[DavidSling]

Israel will help NATO preserve it's military edge if it will be requested to.
NATO countries should increase budget spending on it's armies as a response to Russia' threats

 

[Penguin]

Russian Federation is backing President Assad and we know that France military is fighting along side with US against ISIS, today's news ISIS militants killed two Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and wounded two French soldiers earlier this month north of the IS-controlled city of Mosul

The French newspaper Le Monde reported on Tuesday that the drone had been intercepted in flight on Oct. 2 and exploded near the Kurdish and French soldiers when it hit the ground. It was unclear, Le Monde said, whether the drone was remotely detonated or carried a timed bomb.


The two wounded French soldiers were immediately returned to France for medical treatment and one of them was "between life and death", according to Le Monde. It said other French soldiers were also lightly wounded by the blast but gave no details.

French government spokesman Stephane Le Foll confirmed the injuries.

"Yes. They were injured by a drone that landed and then exploded," he told reporters after a weekly cabinet meeting.



When French Aircraft carrier Charles De Gaulle in 2015 carried out attacks against ISIS in Iraq , there was terrorist attack inside France.

SO? Do you have a point?

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Turkey supposed to do nothing, that's not our fight already.
Simply f*ck off seriously, I won't even answer the rest of your butth*rt for some reason

Turkey is a member of NATO and any attack on a NATO country is the fight of every member.
Anyone not agreeing with that should of course leave the organisation.

 

[bsruzm]

Turkey is a member of NATO and any attack on a NATO country is the fight of every member.
Anyone not agreeing with that should of course leave the organisation.

We are not leaving, what are you going to do?

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

We are not leaving, what are you going to do?

Obviously nothing since it is a NATO internal issue.
If Russia or anyone else attacks a NATO country, and Turkey refuse to honour its obligations,
then Turkey will be expelled.