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Russia denies stealth technology transfer to China for J-20 fighter

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China no longer needs Russia as it has learnt pretty much all that they can from them.


Only the Europeans and the US have military technology that China is interested in.

What makes you say this bro?

What technologies does US, Europe have and Russia doesn't? Specially in Defense and Space sector?

Forgot about arms race and space race between USSR and America? Although USSR is no more but the scientists and the industries still have the capabilities and technologies. They're just cash strapped that's all.
 
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China no longer needs Russia as it has learnt pretty much all that they can from them.


Only the Europeans and the US have military technology that China is interested in.

China still much to learn from Russia, even U.S.S.R technologies are legacy and out date by western standard but Russians are still mastering some other nice TOYS such as Yak-141...or big water sea skimming plan..I just don't recall the name.

China and Russia will cooperate no matter what western media said....most likely under the table:D to not upset India,western and china's lovely neighbors :lol:.
 
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Or your empety claim that the MIG transfered the M1.44 technology to the CAC based on what? Your cheap mouth?

After the break up of the USSR there was a lot of press about former USSR engineers now being employed by China. Nothing wrong with that.
Also still most of the Chinese planes still use Russian engines.. not copies, actuall russian engines. I suspect most missiles too.

so don't give me cheap mouth crap.....
 
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After the break up of the USSR there was a lot of press about former USSR engineers now being employed by China. Nothing wrong with that.
Also still most of the Chinese planes still use Russian engines.. not copies, actuall russian engines. I suspect most missiles too.

so don't give me cheap mouth crap.....
Who cares your suspect or blah,blah? Just answer the question:Who tells you that Mig transfered the M1.44 technology to the CAC? Your suspect?
 
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Who cares your suspect or blah,blah? Just answer the question:Who tells you that Mig transfered the M1.44 technology to the CAC? Your suspect?

Nobody tells me they did. Just like nobody tells you they didn't. Humans you know have the ability to put two and two together, since the tender age of about 4 .. have you been through this stage or live in denial?
 
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These are lies and propaganda normally from americans. They try to suggest that other countries can not develop these weapons and rely on copying or stealing. Then they say russians helped etc. In reality it would only be logical for china to start kicking Americans assxx in future as china is turning out significantly more engineers than america nad they inevitably will win the technology race in time surely as day follows night
 
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errrr..i have to admit russia is still advanced than china in many aspects.

we have a idiom:a starved camel is still bigger than horse.

I think Russia is still advanced than China in some areas, but U d better to prove it is a starved camel. Ok?
 
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Nobody tells me they did. Just like nobody tells you they didn't. Humans you know have the ability to put two and two together, since the tender age of about 4 .. have you been through this stage or live in denial?
Lol,So it's all your suspection without any proofs.And now tell us which one we should believe,somebody in MIG's official comment and Mr. nobody's suspection on the M1.44 issue? Apparentlly you're selling your crap.
 
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I think Russia is advanced and former super power...
And China also get good technology and advanced.....
 
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Nobody tells me they did. Just like nobody tells you they didn't. Humans you know have the ability to put two and two together, since the tender age of about 4 .. have you been through this stage or live in denial?
Great, by the burden of proof *is upon the party who claims, so, prove ur argument?
 
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China still much to learn from Russia, even U.S.S.R technologies are legacy and out date by western standard but Russians are still mastering some other nice TOYS such as Yak-141...or big water sea skimming plan..I just don't recall the name.

China and Russia will cooperate no matter what western media said....most likely under the table:D to not upset India,western and china's lovely neighbors :lol:.

Varyag is also Soviet's legacy, and China only uses it as a training carrier. :coffee:
 
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Great, by the burden of proof *is upon the party who claims, so, prove ur argument?

Oh but I made no claim. I said it is possible that former USSR engineers have worked to develop the J-20, taking into account the similarities between the J-20 and the MiG 1.44 (which people other than myself have noticed).
I made no claim that it did happen.

and again nobody has told anyone that it hasn't, I think at this stage what you cannot admit is that it makes much more sense for 3rd party observers to assume some transfer of technology has occured than not.

if I had to bet, I'd bet there was transfer of technology, it is the logical assumption, national pride aside.
 
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Oh but I made no claim. I said it is possible that former USSR engineers have worked to develop the J-20, taking into account the similarities between the J-20 and the MiG 1.44 (which people other than myself have noticed).
I made no claim that it did happen.

and again nobody has told anyone that it hasn't, I think at this stage what you cannot admit is that it makes much more sense for 3rd party observers to assume some transfer of technology has occured than not.

if I had to bet, I'd bet there was transfer of technology, it is the logical assumption, national pride aside.
But when it comes to the US, we cannot develop anything, we only 'stole' from the Germans from the end of WW II, or we gain from the intellectual prowess of 'foreigners'. The denial of this possibility is not from objective thinking but out of sheer nationalist pride.
 
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But americans are known not to allow truth to effect their statements and just lie
 
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