Russia, China jointly develop high-tech weapons — Putin

[MH.Yang]

How do Chinese feel about Russians exporting high tech weapons to India?
Shouldn't pre condition for cooperation be that Russia stop army that belligerent regime in south Asia?

If Russia does not sell weapons to India, India will buy them from the USA and Europe.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

How do Chinese feel about Russians exporting high tech weapons to India?
Shouldn't pre condition for cooperation be that Russia stop army that belligerent regime in south Asia?

India will always buy weapons from someone. We can't stop them nor can we stop Russia. If they buy from Russia at least we have data, if they buy EU/US it's a complete black box.

China-Russia bonds are not based merely on interests, there is a deep cultural affinity between Chinese and Russians. It is not impossible that after Putin, Russia becomes a full socialist country again. The biggest opposition to Putin is not liberals, it is the CPRF. And SecGen Gennady Zyuganov is even more aggressive than Putin.

"We would restore the might of the Russian state and its status in the world. That would make its policies incomparably more predictable and responsible than they are today." - Gennady Zyuganov

 

[Super Falcon]

I think China has never ask Russia not to send any weapon to whichever independent countries.

Agreed buf why india is crying for pakistan do u think if china objected russia will support china or india

As long as India has money, Indians can buy enough weapons.
Rather than let the Americans or the French make money, let the Russians make money. So we don't mind Russia selling weapons to India.

Ok but india still moving slowly to west this is best time for russia to halt these indian moves and pressuring india and milk indian cow untill it is empty

 

[beijingwalker]

Putin reveals chilling new alliance with China to create space weapons that ‘could plunge West into the DARK AGES’

Patrick Knox
10:22 ET, Dec 23 2021

VLADIMIR Putin has revealed a new alliance with China to create space weapons that could unleash havoc in the West if its satellites were targeted.

Speaking at his annual news conference, the Russian strongman leader said the partnership was “strategic” amid growing tensions with NATO.

Vladimir Putin shaking hands with the Chinese president Xi JinpingCredit: AP




As previously revealed by Sun Online, Russian and Chinese space weaponscould send the West into the Dark Ages should it destroy satellites.

It is feared an orbital onslaught could shut down hospitals, crash the economy, knock out communications, and cause mass blackouts.

At his press conference today, Putin said: "We cooperate with China in the security area.

"China’s armed forces are equipped with the most advanced weapons systems to a large extent.

“We are even developing certain high-tech types of weapons. We are working in space, aircraft areas.”

The revelation of the alliance between Russia and China comes amid deepening concerns that Putin is plotting an invasion of his neighbour Ukraine in 2022 with more than 175,000 Russian troops said to have been detected on the border.

But despite the massive build-up of forces, Putin insisted he did not want a war with Ukraine.

He said: “We have clearly and precisely let them know that any further NATO expansion eastward is unacceptable.”

Last week, Moscow submitted draft security documents demanding that NATO deny membership to Ukraine and other former Soviet countries and roll back the alliance's military deployments in Central and Eastern Europe.

Putin said: “Is it us who are putting missiles near the US borders? No, it's the US who came to our home with their missiles.

“They are already on the threshold of our home. Is it some excessive demand not to place any offensive systems near our home?

“What would the Americans think if we decided to come to the border between Canada and the United States, or Mexico, and simply deploy our own missiles over there.”

Isabel Sawkins, a research fellow at the Henry Jackson Society specialising in Russia, told The Sun Online that Russia and China joining forces could "potentially could be catastrophic" for Western powers.

She said: "Bringing China into the conversation is a deadly addition for the West.

"This would mean America's standing in the world will be absolutely shot to pieces.

"If you have Russia and China working together the US is going to go into absolute panic.”


"Because China is on its way up in the world. It's not only a massive economy - they have so much power.

"You would have China working with Russia and them both having this anxiety over the West - and that brings them together. That's a really terrifying prospect."

Meanwhile experts told The Sun Online warned Chinese and Russian space weapons could plunge the West into the Dark Ages.

Power supplies, hospitals, businesses and transport networks could be disrupted as satellites are lost leaving those under attack both literally and figuratively in the dark.

British military chiefs have previously warned there could be an attack from space within the next two years - something which has also been dubbed a potential "Pearl Harbor in space" for the US.

Allen Antrobus, a military space expert at Airbus Defence and Space in Stevenage, Herts, told The Sun Online he "absolutely" believed there was an increased threat of an attack in space.

His warnings echo those of other experts who fear that Britain is at risk of "an economic blackout of frightening proportions".

Space industry body UKspace admitted firms have very little ability to defend key data and infrastructure should the West come under attack from space.

Putin reveals chilling China pact to create space weapons of the future

VLADIMIR Putin has revealed a new alliance with China to create space weapons that could unleash havoc in the West if its satellites were targeted. Speaking at his annual news conference, the Russi…

www.the-sun.com

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

the global economic power shift alone will be more than enough to send the west back to the gutter it once crawled out of.

 

[Stranagor]

Camps are becoming clear. Western aggresiveness is the main culprit. See if they will be able to overcome Russia-China behemoth. The West will either come to terms with the multipolar order, or, international system will be remade.

 

[Titanium100]

Putin reveals chilling new alliance with China to create space weapons that ‘could plunge West into the DARK AGES’

Patrick Knox
10:22 ET, Dec 23 2021

VLADIMIR Putin has revealed a new alliance with China to create space weapons that could unleash havoc in the West if its satellites were targeted.

Speaking at his annual news conference, the Russian strongman leader said the partnership was “strategic” amid growing tensions with NATO.

Vladimir Putin shaking hands with the Chinese president Xi JinpingCredit: AP



As previously revealed by Sun Online, Russian and Chinese space weaponscould send the West into the Dark Ages should it destroy satellites.

It is feared an orbital onslaught could shut down hospitals, crash the economy, knock out communications, and cause mass blackouts.

At his press conference today, Putin said: "We cooperate with China in the security area.

"China’s armed forces are equipped with the most advanced weapons systems to a large extent.

“We are even developing certain high-tech types of weapons. We are working in space, aircraft areas.”

The revelation of the alliance between Russia and China comes amid deepening concerns that Putin is plotting an invasion of his neighbour Ukraine in 2022 with more than 175,000 Russian troops said to have been detected on the border.

But despite the massive build-up of forces, Putin insisted he did not want a war with Ukraine.

He said: “We have clearly and precisely let them know that any further NATO expansion eastward is unacceptable.”

Last week, Moscow submitted draft security documents demanding that NATO deny membership to Ukraine and other former Soviet countries and roll back the alliance's military deployments in Central and Eastern Europe.

Putin said: “Is it us who are putting missiles near the US borders? No, it's the US who came to our home with their missiles.

“They are already on the threshold of our home. Is it some excessive demand not to place any offensive systems near our home?

“What would the Americans think if we decided to come to the border between Canada and the United States, or Mexico, and simply deploy our own missiles over there.”

Isabel Sawkins, a research fellow at the Henry Jackson Society specialising in Russia, told The Sun Online that Russia and China joining forces could "potentially could be catastrophic" for Western powers.

She said: "Bringing China into the conversation is a deadly addition for the West.

"This would mean America's standing in the world will be absolutely shot to pieces.

"If you have Russia and China working together the US is going to go into absolute panic.”


"Because China is on its way up in the world. It's not only a massive economy - they have so much power.

"You would have China working with Russia and them both having this anxiety over the West - and that brings them together. That's a really terrifying prospect."

Meanwhile experts told The Sun Online warned Chinese and Russian space weapons could plunge the West into the Dark Ages.

Power supplies, hospitals, businesses and transport networks could be disrupted as satellites are lost leaving those under attack both literally and figuratively in the dark.

British military chiefs have previously warned there could be an attack from space within the next two years - something which has also been dubbed a potential "Pearl Harbor in space" for the US.

Allen Antrobus, a military space expert at Airbus Defence and Space in Stevenage, Herts, told The Sun Online he "absolutely" believed there was an increased threat of an attack in space.

His warnings echo those of other experts who fear that Britain is at risk of "an economic blackout of frightening proportions".

Space industry body UKspace admitted firms have very little ability to defend key data and infrastructure should the West come under attack from space.

Putin reveals chilling China pact to create space weapons of the future

VLADIMIR Putin has revealed a new alliance with China to create space weapons that could unleash havoc in the West if its satellites were targeted. Speaking at his annual news conference, the Russi…

www.the-sun.com

No wonder why the pressure on Eastern Europe.. He has officially joined a camp and decided to chellenge the west openly

 

[vostok]

We must help Germany to expel American Occupation forces and engage Germany to our camp. Then it will be no chance at all fo the United States of Antichrist.

 

[Piotr]

We must help Germany to expel American Occupation forces and engage Germany to our camp. Then it will be no chance at all fo the United States of Antichrist.

Why do you want to help Germany ? Germany has never ever helped Russia. Germany was major supporter of sanctions against Russia and Germany is very russophobic. German owned media in Poland are major source of russophobia in Poland. Anyway Germany is less and less importaint. There is plenty of opportunities for you in Asia, Africa and Latin America. The West is dying. Germany is dying. The West is less than 10% of the World population.

 

[vostok]

Why do you want to help Germany ? Germany has never ever helped Russia. Germany was major supporter of sanctions against Russia and Germany is very russophobic. German owned media in Poland are major source of russophobia in Poland. Anyway Germany is less and less importaint. There is plenty of opportunities for you in Asia, Africa and Latin America. The West is dying. Germany is dying. The West is less than 10% of the World population.

Because of Eastern Germans. I believe they still have hope.

 

[Piotr]

Because of Eastern Germans. I believe they still have hope.

Have Eastern Germans ever helped Russia ? The answer is no !
Why do you even care about Germany ? There are plenty of other countries in the World.
Germany is a thing of the past. In the future Germany will be unimportant.

 

[vostok]

Have Eastern Germans ever helped Russia ? The answer is no !
Why do you even care about Germany ? There are plenty of other countries in the World.
Germany is a thing of the past. In the future Germany will be unimportant.

It is not only about Germans. I believe all the former socialist countries have the future, unlike Western European countries.

 

[Shotgunner51]

war theory with regard to bombers?

I think bombers in a strategic context have different roles vis-a-vis ICBM/SLBM, they can carry out precision strikes say against fortified/bunker targets, mobile targets, and can rapidly respond to random HVT opportunities in uncharted territories. These missions call for a stealth, subsonic, long endurance (range), "lone wolf" type of bomber, maybe that's how H-20 is designed.

Then of course we need the "bomb truck" type to do some old fashion aerial bombing, and act as launch platform of increasingly popular standoff weapons. Payload, and range, remain the two top criteria for these bombers, so far the vintage H-6 can still suffice especially when given a boost in avionics and powerplant, it can even launch drones and ballistic missiles (e.g. CH-AS-X-13)! But faster and more maneuverable tactical platforms like Tu-22M could definitely be useful, though not an immediate priority for tight-budget PLAAF.

 

[FuturePAF]

though not an immediate priority for tight-budget PLAAF.

Besides Doctrine, the budget limitations are something we tend to over look with the PLAAF and Chinese military in general

 

[Shotgunner51]

Besides Doctrine, the budget limitations are something we tend to over look with the PLAAF and Chinese military in general

Yes a lot of watchers overlook the fact that China defence spend is only 1.25% of GDP! The reality is even more harsh when this spend scatters across many departments, where PLASSF and PLARF are always strategic priorities. Just between PLAAF and PLAN, luckily the former has strategic programs like H-20, Y-20, otherwise I guess even more share will be tilted towards the navy for 094/096 and 055 (for sea-based BM mid-course interception).