You believe people here sit idle waiting to freeze to death in winter? No my friend, not all people are dumb as you believe.
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Chinese have benefited from cheap gas with their no 'limits' friendship. They need the cheap gas given the big property bailout that will be needed and 70% of household wealth is locked up in the collapsing property sector as the ultimate ponzi scheme...
No, I think this is actually a good thing for Europe as a whole as I said before in another thread. Only a fool will depend completely on its adversary/enemy/rival for its most critical needs like energy/power . (Its like CHINA depending on the US for majority of its crucial energy needs just because its abit cheaper, do you see how stupid that sounds?)This puts you at the mercy of your adversary/ blackmail and puts all the leverage in your adversary hands .
even if it means we have to pay more for energy, we will still have adjusted to that new normal and get used to it, wouldn't be the end of the world. Europe has faced far more hardship than this and came out in a better shape. In fact this is not even that bad compared to other crisis to be honest. After all Russia is not the only country in the world with oil/gas etc. Russia will face even more economic issues going forward since their main exports is natural resources.
We're talking about who blew up Nord Stream. Or do you mean the European Parliament bombed Nord Stream?No, I think this is actually a good thing for Europe as a whole as I said before in another thread. Only a fool will depend completely on its adversary/enemy/rival for its most critical needs like energy/power . (Its like CHINA depending on the US for majority of its crucial energy needs just because its abit cheaper, do you see how stupid that sounds?)This puts you at the mercy of your adversary/ blackmail and puts all the leverage in your adversary hands .
Europe should have never depended on Russia for the vast majority of its energy needs in the first place.
The thing is Europe can live without Russian gas , europe wasn't always so dependent on Russian gas, europe started dependingon russian gas more after the cold war since they believed Russias didnt pose anymore threat and Russian gas was cheaper and readily available so countries started flocking to russian gas. During the cold war , dependence on Russian gas was minimal at best and we still lived , survived and prospered. As I said , necessity will always make you create alternatives and create a new normal. European countries got too complacent with Russia due to a long period of peace in Europe, this led to complacency and even laziness of thinking on crucial matters like this. Its good that Russia's invasion of Georgia, annexation of Crimea(which kinda shook Europe ABIT, but not enough for them to fully wave up ) and subsequent invasion of Ukraine was the final wake up call we long needed. This will be good fir Europe long term , as Europe seems to have woken up to the need to maje tough decisions and suffer short term pain for long term gain , and get rid if any energy leverage and blackmail Russia has over Europe. Once this us gone, Russia won't have much leeway to blackmail Europe thus less leverage.
It would make sense only if the pipeline is active and delivering gas to EU, Russia suspended gas delivery from Nord stream 1 and 2 since last month, it does not make sense to sabotage an empty gas pipeline,Come to think of it now, US has much to gain from this as well. Albeit, not the reasons mentioned by OP.
We all know the gas supplies to the EU have been keeping the Russian war machine going in terms of money. Granted, they have been waning off, but are still a significant amount. The US could not force the the EU to shut the gas off as quickly as it wanted, and Russia also did not want a total halt of gas supplies, after all, they have to fund the war.
So how else could the US stop Russia getting money from the EU, and stop the supplies?
It make sense to sabotage an empty gas pipeline, so it doesn't get restarted ....
@80-100m deep in the sea ? Your just ridiculous....
well, it wouldn't make sense because unless it is completely destroyed, otherwise you can fix it, whether or not you want to restart delivery of gas is an administrative decision, as in whether you want to buy gas/oil from Russia. If the EU don't want to buy oil and gas from Russia is because they want independent energy source, not because of the pipeline is broken.
