Russia backed Haftar army capture military vehicles Turkey gave to Tripoli based Libya army

[xenon54 out]

Meaning..?!

Roughly translated ''a donkey wont know whats truly valuable''.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Haftar should apologize for not capturing this last year that little animal

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Can anyone ID what vehicle this is?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215387101769932801

 

[Amun]

A new one ....
It is not that fancy from interiors.... @xenon54
I’m seeing too much analogue systems inside ...

 

[HannibalBarca]

A new one ....
It is not that fancy from interiors.... @xenon54
I’m seeing too much analogue systems inside ...

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I mean it's just mraps...

 

[Amun]

I mean it's just mraps...

We had a conversation between me and @xenon54 about the fancy tools that KIRPI had ....

But you can see the fancy gears here in the Egyptian ST-100 MRAB ... that makes the job easier.

BTW .... the 2 Armored vehicles on the right and on the lefts are the Egyptian TAG Terrier LT 79

 

[HannibalBarca]

We had a conversation between me and @xenon54 about the fancy tools that KIRPI had ....

But you can see the fancy gears here in the Egyptian ST-100 MRAB ... that makes the job easier.
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BTW .... the 2 Armored vehicles on the right and on the lefts are the Egyptian TAG Terrier LT 79

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Well...
It's more money for nothing tbh... they are vehicules to be used harshly...
What happen when the screen doesn't work anymore in the middle of the op? Every Info about the state of your vehicle is out...
Too much electronics is also not the best... too many point of failure...
The best vehicles must be as "analogue" as possible...
That's why many countries are keeping their old vehicles... and newest ones try to keep that legacy... check US/RU/CN newest vehicules... and you will see.

Oshkosh

 

[CAN_TR]

It's one of many MRAPs... and what is wrong with analogue?

 

[xenon54 out]

We had a conversation between me and @xenon54 about the fancy tools that KIRPI had ....

But you can see the fancy gears here in the Egyptian ST-100 MRAB ... that makes the job easier.
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BTW .... the 2 Armored vehicles on the right and on the lefts are the Egyptian TAG Terrier LT 79

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Well thats not Kirpi but Vuran, besides i never said its fany, i said "proper gear". Military vehicles dont need to be fancy, they need to be reliable, they must be easy to maintain and sturdy in extreme situations. A broken display is not something you can repair in a battlefield so you go analogue when it doesnt need to be digital.


Thats Kirpi interior btw.

 

[Amun]

@xenon54 @HannibalBarca
May be you both are right .... but if we follow that theory.... no equipment can be developed to new generation .... look at 4.5 and 5th Generations Fighters or even modern Tanks

They are all equipped with sensors and screens

 

[HannibalBarca]

@xenon54 @HannibalBarca
May be you both are right .... but if we follow that theory.... no equipment can be developed to new generation .... look at 4.5 and 5th Generations Fighters or even modern Tanks

They are all equipped with sensors and screens

Sensors is one thing, using fancy equipments just to give it a more "modern" look while being a possible issue on the ground when it's broken is another thing.
More capable sensors is a must.

 

[xenon54 out]

@xenon54 @HannibalBarca
May be you both are right .... but if we follow that theory.... no equipment can be developed to new generation .... look at 4.5 and 5th Generations Fighters or even modern Tanks

They are all equipped with sensors and screens

A plane is not the same as an MRAP though, have you ever seen the inside of an Abrams?

 

[Amun]

A plane is not the same as an MRAP though, have you ever seen the inside of an Abrams?

Abrams M1A2 SEP photos from inside .... that confirms my theory

 

[xenon54 out]

Abrams M1A2 SEP photos from inside .... that confirms my theory

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Any display is the same to you? If that makes a vehicle modern then well the gunner in Kirpi, Vuran, Cobra also have a displays.
I think this conversation leads to nowhere, ok Amun Egyptian MRAPs are superior, have a nice day.

 

[cabatli_53]

It is about what you expect with “modern” term. Gulf Arabs found the meaning of “civilization” word by constructing the taller buildings and purchasing expensive luxury equipments instead of investing the science and technology so I am not surprized our Egyptian seeks fancy screens and dijital cockpit inside a land vehicle instead of searching protection level of Turkish MRAP against IED and land mines. (MRAP:Mine Resistant Ambush Protected)