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Russia and Iran in talks over $10 billion arms deal

The UN embargo will last for the next five years.. negotiations will go on for the same period and if Iran gives a down payment , gear might be ready by that time..
The only prospect is if he UN decides hat Tanks and hellies are not offensive and allows the deal..But for the SU-30, one will have to wait.. don't know about Trump's prerogative's consequences but this is what is expected as of now with the existing deal..
 
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The top priority would/should be is definitly the acquisition of new aircrafts and modernization of its air force first and foremost.
 
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Yep even though it's seems like Ur own program Russians have their great share of help in upgrading Ur armed forces for a long time. You gave them US drone technology they gave you their help building one. Russians help to India and Iran cannot Nə measured with small yard stick. I will tell you in future Iran and India will attack a same enemy with similar weapons from tanks to fighters from Russians.

Hope u understand who am talking about. Even though its minimal thinks about to get intense.

All of the things you said above are wrong, with all respect.
 
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Unfortunately the russians in their previous dealings with iran have proven themselves to be and this is putting it rather mildly quite,quite unreliable and untrustworthy in the extreme,one only has to look at the s300 debacle or the bushehr reactor to see this.Russia sadly has used iran as just a bargaining chip with the west in the past,now it is possible that with russian-western relations in the deep freeze and russia needing all the friends it can get then it might be more willing to play ball with iran,sadly tho rouhani and co seem more interested in trying to cozy up to the west than to try and take advantage of this,I mean ffs zarif didnt even bother to get the un arms embargo lifted as part of the jcpoa so russia cant even sell things like su30s and t90s to iran for another 3 years at least and a lot can happen in that space of time.Personally I ll believe the stories about t90s/su30s when I see the russians actually deliver them to iran,until then its just more bullsh!t.

I guess the hope that one can have is that Russian, under a newly enlightened Putin lead government. Will see Iran as an reliable partner (one that isn't afraid to have 100's possibly thousands die for their ally, Look at the Iranian death count in Iraq and Syria, it shows commitment). But as i've stated before there is a churning feeling in my gut that wants to say that Russia will get a better deal from a Trump led administration since Trump (Has STRONG Israeli JEWISH ties and his family is jewish, and his grandchildren are as well) meaning that Israel can easily sway Trump into doing what they want even if it means going it alone.

Putin must, AND I MEAN MUST, see this for the bigger picture. US has an overall goal with ever changing internal politics etc, etc... and that is Dominance, pure and simple.

Weapons transfer had deals like this probably won't go through. In fact I honestly think this deal will get torpedoed by
the US in someway shape or form. US will keep Iran at a certain military level where they think that striking Iran will be effective and won't lead to all out war (I don't agree with this mindset since Iran already progresses in many military fields regardless of Russian support, drones, cyber warfare, missiles of all types and land based weapon platforms).

I think one of the main reasons why Iran does need modern or modern-ish weapon systems is not so much the "need" but to get everyone else to shut up or at least bring their rhetoric down on how Iran is some ill-equiped rag tag militia trotting around as a full fledged professional force.

I still think Iran should just continue with their indigenous weapons program full speed. No outside support the better. Also 10 billion would be able to produce a lot of more missiles for Iran to add to its already MASSIVE missile stockpile. No matter how good a defense a country has there is no such thing as 100% missile defense.
 
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I am not happy with the Deal. Iran need to invest in it's own defence industry.
Iran needs SU 30 and T-90 Tanks if it is invading any other country. But as far as defending Iranian air space and land is concerned, then for that Iran does not need SU 30 and it could be done much better by using domestic Radars and Missies. Similarly, invading Tanks could also be destroyed in better way by using anti tank missiles instead of T 90.

Yes, if Iran is intended to go on offence against any country, then perhaps it will need SU 30 or T90.

But how effective will be SU 30 against the American Radars and missiles. All the Arab countries have now American missile shield system for their air space.
 
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Well I prefer we buy the research Russia did on demonstration platform like SU-47 instead buying complete airplanes like SU-30 or 35 or pak-fa. Even if we have to pay more for it.
 
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Share of help !?

They didn't deliver S-300 before finding out we already have a similar indigenous system !!!

We are already ahead of Russia in drones...

They won't sell anything to Iran before Iran makes a similar system !!!

Look at our air force !

Where is so called Russian help!?

All of the news about Su-30 deal is hot air ...

We are developing fighters in Iran but slowly... But we will have the success for sure...

Then Russians will talk about delivering Su-30 !

& the bullshit goes on...

LOL on lighter Note : Look at your airforce without Russian Fighters.

And my friend there are many things going on between Russia India Russia Syria Russia Iran Iran China Russia China which you and me won't have any clue.

Do you know Till date Russians helping Chinese to Defence industries. You know how far Chinese are with their defence industries. Do you know The best Chinese indigenous Frigate and attack Helicopters they ever built were Russian designers Mater class?

You may think Wht Russia do it? Well it's for larger interest Global interest of Russia. Am sure under our eyes lots of helps been made to Iran by all your close allies. Russia China India.

SU 30 is a possibility rest stop marketing Indian products .

Frigates Probably Talwar Class similar vessels, Su30 will be Russian version of Su30 MKI, with Su30 MKI make no error Bramos will you must buy missile. Even Russian will place large order for airlaunched version.

See the same happening to Vietnam. Russia is playing greater game to contain China and US influences. India - Best friends time tested. Iran Strategic Patner. Vietnam - Russias old friend. What China has in the region? Pakistan North Korea and now Phillips from Arab to Pacific. Quiet shocking now its so easy to see Iran Vietnam Going with what India already has in her force. India is a best bet for many countries. Stable and Peaceful nation.

Sure thing is that India will be with you in Ur bad time even when world stands against You.
 
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Frigates Probably Talwar Class similar vessels, Su30 will be Russian version of Su30 MKI, with Su30 MKI make no error Bramos will you must buy missile. Even Russian will place large order for airlaunched version.

See the same happening to Vietnam. Russia is playing greater game to contain China and US influences. India - Best friends time tested. Iran Strategic Patner. Vietnam - Russias old friend. What China has in the region? Pakistan North Korea and now Phillips from Arab to Pacific. Quiet shocking now its so easy to see Iran Vietnam Going with what India already has in her force. India is a best bet for many countries. Stable and Peaceful nation.

Sure thing is that India will be with you in Ur bad time even when world stands against You.
Your post makes some points which are more conspiracy theory or its what we call seeing the number as you like ,Did you ever consider F16 was exported to 20+ countries with more than 4600 copies ? so all countries only have one thing common US interest
 
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