Russia and China veto UN Resolution against Syria

[ChineseTiger1986]

Even if they did they would not cancel it weapons and money mean more to them. just giving the truth.

It doesn't matter for the weapon procurement, as long as Saudi is still going to be our biggest oil supplier.

 

[Oldman1]

Don't see that happening. Currently Self reliance in weapons industry is more important geo-politically. We have 150 Helicopters waiting for delivery by Russia as well as numerous Tanks and APCs and AAs along with their technologies and Offsets here. Sadfully these are currently more important than Syrian blood in the eyes of our government.

Then that should be enough to persuade Russia to join the Gulf League on their side when you look at all the billions of dollars in weaponry compare to Syria. Since its about business then Russia would understand after all when cancellations come into their mailbox.

 

[gubbi]

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Why Russia supporting Assad? A detailed analysis from Russian POV?

Russia has a naval base in Syria. Any action by NATO would mean base evacuation and would be a strategic loss for russia as they have limited bases left after soviet left. I have no idea why china vetoed ///

Even if NATO entered the fray, I doubt that Russian naval base would as much as be violated of its airspace. That would amount to declaration of war. NATO would not dare touch that Russian naval base. But then this resolution was not for any NATO action but to condemn strongly Assad regime's actions or massacres of its civilians.

 

[Smarterthanyou]

I am not so sure buddy. That is what you always say but there is always a very generous helping of self interest in the mix. Not really sure who you were helping in Iraq or Libya or Vietnam for that matter. In this case, you appear to be on the right side but then this could well have been a prelude to a NATO invasion of Syria in which case India would vote against the motion. There is little doubt that Assad needs to be condemned but no foreign invasions please. Let the Syrians decide for themselves.

Iraq , millions were saved from a brutual dictator who gassed his own citizens
Libya, hundreds of thousands were saved from a brutual dicator who was slaughtering them

In both cases as in is this case in Syria. Muslim dicators or Muslims of the opposing sect killed the majority of the innocent citizens.

 

[Americanpeacebomber]

Iraq , millions were saved from a brutual dictator who gassed his own citizens
Libya, hundreds of thousands were saved from a brutual dicator who was slaughtering them

In both cases as in is this case in Syria. Muslim dicators or Muslims of the opposing sect killed the majority of the innocent citizens.

Yeah Right Iraq is better off
in Libya their killing each other now

no one wants intervention.

 

[Smarterthanyou]

I am no supporter of the Syrian thug Bashar Al Asad but I do support the Chinese and Russian Veto for a different reason. We cannot let US and its Western allies dictate who should stay and who should go. We cannot allow US and its Western allies to dictate who can have Nuclear weapons and who may not( for example Israel may be allowed to have nuclear weapons but not Iran). The World cannot be left to the mercy of US and the West to dictate their terms in a unipolar World.

It is time for the Russians and Chinese to assert their power and challenge the Western World to create checks and balances.

I salute the Russians and the Chinese people to challenge the West and not cave in because of Western pressure, to save humanity from the western hegemony.

Why did you cave in to the west ?

 

[Dron.ru]

Why Russia supporting Assad? A detailed analysis from Russian POV?

In addition to the national interest, we have principles. One of the principles is the idea of non-interference of external forces in the internal affairs of countries. Such interference creates karma (reverse punch). If country does not threaten a neighbor, he has no right to attack, regardless of the reasons.

And besides, we do not think that the life of the Syrian soldiers less valuable than the Syrian civilians or armed insurgents.

We support the country, not government.

 

[ChinaToday]

Iraq , millions were saved from a brutual dictator who gassed his own citizens
Libya, hundreds of thousands were saved from a brutual dicator who was slaughtering them

In both cases as in is this case in Syria. Muslim dicators or Muslims of the opposing sect killed the majority of the innocent citizens.

Didnt you guys tell us saddam had wms ? sorry usa we dont buy your lies any more

 

[Birbal]

I'm disappointed by India, Brazil, and South Africa. Glad that Russia and China had the spine to veto this resolution.

 

[Smarterthanyou]

Yeah Right Iraq is better off
in Libya their killing each other now

no one wants intervention.

Yes Iraq is better off in the long run. Right now it is a few muslims of a sect killing other innocent ones. Just like before but to a smaller measure. Same with Libya. Stop with the logic that, because there are some murders in Germany every year, defeating Hitler was bad.

 

[ChinaToday]

if america care so much for the arab why are they using their veto to stop palestinian getting their home land?

 

[pmukherjee]

Iraq , millions were saved from a brutual dictator who gassed his own citizens
Libya, hundreds of thousands were saved from a brutual dicator who was slaughtering them

In both cases as in is this case in Syria. Muslim dicators or Muslims of the opposing sect killed the majority of the innocent citizens.

OK, then I am sure that the Iraqis and the Libyans are eternally grateful to the US for all the help. Ummmmmm.... any idea why the US supported the Saudi backed regime in crushing the Shia protesters in Bahrain? After all, the monarchy in Bahrain were Sunnis beating the crap out of Shias. So they qualified for intervention and rescue as per your parameters stated above, no? Or maybe it all had nothing to do with righteousness or principles but only about self interest and convenience? After all, you guys have the USN Fifth Fleet headquartered at Manama. It would have looked very funny if the protesters over ran that base.

 

[Smarterthanyou]

I'm disappointed by India, Brazil, and South Africa. Glad that Russia and China had the spine to veto this resolution.

How you is it " having a spine"; to veto the stopping of mass murder and slaughter of women , children and innocent citizens by a brutal dictator?

 

[gubbi]

In addition to the national interest, we have principles. One of the principles is the idea of non-interference of external forces in the internal affairs of countries. Such interference creates karma (reverse punch). If country does not threaten a neighbor, he has no right to attack, regardless of the reasons.

And besides, we do not think that the life of the Syrian soldiers less valuable than the Syrian civilians or armed insurgents.

We support the country, not government.

Fair enough. But then why did Russia agree with NATO action in Libya? President Medvedev specifically asked Ghaddifi to stop military action against civilians/rebels and step down. Explain that. Or the action in 2008 in what was Georgia's internal affair in the rovinces of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

 

[Dron.ru]

if america care so much for the arab why are they using their veto to stop palestinian getting their home land?

America is not fully independent in decision-making. Oligarchic system of government led to the formation of influential clans lobbying for their interests. The Israeli lobby is very strong and completely subdued the U.S. policy in the region.