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Dmitry Rogozin, the head of Russian state space corporation Roscosmos, said that he’s planning to assign cosmonauts to fly on SpaceX’s Crew Dragon spacecraft to the International Space Station. :rofl:

It’s a striking reversal in tone given Rogozin’s strained relationship with NASA and particularly SpaceX CEO Elon Musk. The director recently invited Musk for tea at his home in Russia last month, marking the beginning of a remarkable change in demeanor, since the two have a history of taking potshots at each other.

The idea is to mix and match NASA astronauts and Russian cosmonauts on future launches of the spacecraft.

“In our view, SpaceX has already acquired enough experience for us to be able to put our cosmonauts on Crew Dragon,” Rogozin said through a translator at a press conference on Monday, as quoted by SpaceNews.

“I believe we will be in a position to discuss candidates who may be flying to the space station on board the Crew Dragon — Russian cosmonauts, and American astronauts who will be flying to the space station on Russian spacecraft,” he added.

The soonest a Russian cosmonaut could travel to the ISS on board a Crew Dragon capsule could be the Crew-5 mission in the second half of 2022, according to SpaceNews.

The news comes after NASA and SpaceX completed their flight readiness review for an upcoming October 31 launch, the Crew-3 mission.

SpaceX has proven the flightworthiness of its Crew Dragon spacecraft on five occasions, four of which were crewed flights into orbit.

Russia’s Soyuz spacecraft has a much longer history and has been in service for over half a century, with its first crewed launch taking place in 1967. While its configurations and technologies have been updated many times since its maiden voyage in the 1960s, the overall platform still bears a striking resemblance to decades-old designs.

Are Rogozin and Roscosmos admitting defeat by planning to fly cosmonauts on board SpaceX’s Crew Dragon? His endorsement comes at an unusual time, with Russian officials revealing earlier this year that the country is planning to abandon the ISS after two decades of continuous international occupation and cooperation.

Perhaps Russia is simply ensuring Russian cosmonauts will be on board the aging outpost until the bitter end — or it could be an opportunistic play.

The country would be leaving considerable amounts of money on the table. Last year, NASA paid $90 million for a Soyuz seat. But it’s unclear how much Russia would have to pay NASA and SpaceX to launch a crew member on board a Crew Dragon.

At the end of the day, maybe we should just take Rogozin by his word. NASA deputy administrator Pam Melroy said during Monday’s conference that “they have an expectation that there should be several flights before they feel confident in the performance of the vehicle” — which Crew Dragon has now proven. “At this point, we’re having that conversation.”

As always, getting a read on Rogozin’s intentions is a fool’s errand. His opinions have ranged from sheer rage at NASA for giving SpaceX carte blanche to threatening American space journalists, to inviting Musk in for tea with his family — and that’s just over the past year and change.

Whether Russia is conceding to SpaceX or ensuring Russia’s presence on board the ISS, in other words, remains a mystery.

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Another misleading and self bragging article by US. Pathetic!

LOL! Do I hear another Chinese member anger posting over SpaceX success?

Rogozin is now relenting and will allow Cosmonauts on the Crew Dragon.
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I'm sure after riding in the Dragon they will demand a new Soyuz design.
 
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Obviously omitted. Dmitry Rogozin just said 3 days ago he will discuss lifting of U.S. economic warfare targeting Russian spaceflight industries with that very same U.S. regime puppet at NASA. Thats what he means with "this topic will come up in the discussions", which of course was also cut out from the citation by this U.S. propaganda mouthpiece.

The U.S. regime is desperate for a phyrric victory for domestic consumption by bitter Americans like the ones constantly trolling on this forum, blackmailing Russia to accept this, while they continue to use Russian spacecraft even while trying everything to destroy and undermine them with backhanded tricks.
 
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Obviously omitted. Dmitry Rogozin just said 3 days ago he will discuss lifting of U.S. economic warfare targeting Russian spaceflight industries with that very same U.S. regime puppet at NASA. Thats what he means with "this topic will come up in the discussions", which of course was also cut out from the citation by this U.S. propaganda mouthpiece.

The U.S. regime is desperate for a phyrric victory for domestic consumption by bitter Americans like the ones constantly trolling on this forum, blackmailing Russia to accept this, while they continue to use Russian spacecraft even while trying everything to destroy and undermine them with backhanded tricks.

HAHAHA!!!! With your above reply you obviously are clueless of the long history of acrimony between Elon Musk and Dmitry Rogozin/Roscosmos.

Elon Musk is laughing at Dmitry Rogozin right now.
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Russia and China living rent free in Hamartia Andidote head😂😂😂

No, Dmitry Rogozin said in April 2014 that the US has a better chance of getting to space on a trampoline than some contraption SpaceX is supposedly building.

Elon Musk immediately replied

2021 Hey Dmitry uh..remember that trampoline crap you said..
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Russian cosmonauts will be allowed to fly to the International Space Station on SpaceX's Crew Dragon space capsule in the future as the technology has now proved to be sufficiently safe and reliable.

The director of Russia's space agency Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin made such remarks during a press briefing at the International Astronautical Congress in Dubai on Monday (Oct. 25), SpaceNews reported.

Russia, which had had a monopoly on human spaceflight after the retirement of NASA's space shuttle in 2011, was previously vocal about their reluctance to fly on the private American spacecraft, citing SpaceX's lack of experience. That has now changed, Rogozin said, as SpaceX has already completed four successful crewed missions.

In May 2020, SpaceX brought the first two astronauts to the space station as part of a demo flight. The four-strong Crew-1 and Crew-2 followed in November 2020 and April 2021 respectively. In September, SpaceX successfully operated the first commercial orbital mission Inspiration 4, the first orbital flight of a civilian crew made up of non-professional astronauts.

"In our view, SpaceX has already acquired enough experience for us to be able to put our cosmonauts on Crew Dragon," Rogozin said through a translator, according to SpaceNews.

The remarks are important for NASA, which is interested in exchanging seats between Crew Dragon and Russia's Soyuz crew vehicle, SpaceNews said.

Rogozin said the two space agencies will discuss possible future arrangements during a meeting at the conference.

"I believe we will be in a position to discuss candidates who may be flying to the space station on board the Crew Dragon — Russian cosmonauts and American astronauts who will be flying to the space station on Russian spacecraft," Rogozin said according to SpaceNews.

NASA and SpaceX are currently in the final days of preparations to launch their Crew-3 mission, which is scheduled for Sunday (Oct. 31). The mission will launch a crew of four — NASA astronauts Raja Chari, Tom Marshburn, and Kayla Barron, as well as European Space Agency (ESA) astronaut Matthias Maurer — to the International Space Station to begin a six-month mission.

SpaceX's Crew-4 mission will follow in April 2022 with NASA astronauts Kjell Lindgren and Robert Hines and ESA's Samantha Cristoforetti aboard. A fourth crew member is yet to be announced.

SpaceNews reported that a Russian cosmonaut will not likely join a Dragon mission earlier than Crew-5. The earliest date for an American astronaut to fly on a Soyuz would be in the fall of 2022, since NASA has decided not to acquire a seat on the Soyuz MS-21 launching in March 2022, according to SpaceNews.

NASA has an interest in flying "mixed crews" of at least one NASA astronaut and one Roscosmos cosmonaut on each mission to ensure that both countries have a constant presence at the space station, SpaceNews reported. Such an arrangement would allow the space agencies to maintain their segments of the orbital outpost even if their own space taxis are grounded for a longer period of time.

"The important thing is that an agreement has to work for both of us," NASA Deputy Administrator Pam Melroy said in the same press briefing, according to SpaceNews. "There are considerations that we have and they have as well."
 
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No, Dmitry Rogozin said in April 2014 that the US has a better chance of getting to space on a trampoline than some contraption SpaceX is supposedly building.

Elon Musk immediately replied

2021 Hey Dmitry uh..remember that trampoline crap you said..
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Seriously man, do you even understand what he said? Admit defeat? For the past decade US need to depend on Russia for manned spaceflight, that's really embarrassment.
 
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LOL! Do I hear another Chinese member anger posting over SpaceX success?

Rogozin is now relenting and will allow Cosmonauts on the Crew Dragon.
:enjoy:

I'm sure after riding in the Dragon they will demand a new Soyuz design.
What success has SpaceX made? You mean they managed to get a space station into space like China or they managed to land something working on Moon or Mars?

Russian allow Cosmonauts on Dragon is just a back up plan.. You mean US space crew not going to use Soyuz if there is problem with Dragon? Or Russian is going to abandon soyuz and used Dragon to ISS only?
 
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Russia and China living rent free in Hamartia Andidote head😂😂😂
Yeah, for a country that is supposedly not even on their ‘level’, they sure do talk about it a lot like they’re insecure about something 🤪
 
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US really cripple Russian economy, so its not even a fair game... if there weren't many sanctions from both US/Europe Russians would be able to made many achievements in space program like US and China has done.
 
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What success has SpaceX made? You mean they managed to get a space station into space like China or they managed to land something working on Moon or Mars?

The SpaceX Starship + Superheavy stack is going to be tested in an orbital flight next month if permission from the American flight authority is there. And from this article from April 2021 :
Musk remains “highly confident” that SpaceX will land humans on Mars by 2026, saying last December that it’s an achievable goal “about six years from now.” He added that SpaceX plans to send a Starship rocket without crew “in two years.”
The Starship can potentially carry 100 people though of course for flight to Mars and landing there maybe that number will be actually much less given the arrangement for food, water, bathrooms, radiation shelter etc.

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The SpaceX Starship + Superheavy stack is going to be tested in an orbital flight next month if permission from the American flight authority is there. And from this article from April 2021 :

The Starship can potentially 100 people though of course for flight to Mars and landing there maybe that number will be actually much less given the arrangement for food, water, bathrooms, radiation shelter etc.

@Hamartia Antidote
LOL.. It still not gonna beat the feat of landing something meaningful on Moon or Mars or grand project like putting a space station into space. Ask India, Israel and ESA and Russia.
 
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LOL.. It still not gonna beat the feat of landing something meaningful on Moon or Mars

Landing humans on Mars is not meaningful ? :) The science that the rovers do now can be amplified by landing human geologists and biologists.

or grand project like putting a space station into space. Ask India, Israel and ESA and Russia.

There is a project about an American private space station.

And why do you mention Israel ?
 
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