Rummaging through history

[divya]

No need to flood this forum with youtube videos, it only shows me that you are desperately trying to relate yourself with pakistani rig vedics which you are not, i have given you enough facts and i can give you more but this is not going to change your thinking.

I dont get my knowledge from youtube videos made by some two bit wannabe profeessors, but from books written by qualified writers

Refute me if you can that these mantras are not from vedas. if you have problem with them i can give you the links for the same vedas.

And we dont need to relate to rig vedas we are already related.

And your qualified writers are more dumb who dont even know to how to write the word mahabharata and wrote Ma-habharatha

 

[PureAryan]

Lol hindus are sun worshippers man.

YouTube - SURYA NAMASKAR by Chorus - Sacred Hindu Chants CD

man you need to understand Hinduism first.

Hindus are idol worshippors they may also be sun worshippors because due to rajput slavery, but most rajputs were never idol worshippors, rajputs came from central asia so were central asians also hindus

 

[Rafi]

na assi punjabin nahi hain. I am a Kayastha which as per hinduism is the only clan to have descended directly from gods and we dont fall in any category of cast system. Though some call us half brahmin and half khatriyas.


I am basically from a small place in UP. being true i am 26 years of age, engaged to be married this year end.

OK - hope you have a nice married life, live long and prosper

 

[PureAryan]

Refute me if you can that these mantras are not from vedas. if you have problem with them i can give you the links for the same vedas.

And we dont need to relate to rig vedas we are already related.

And your qualified writers are more dumb who dont even know to how to write the word mahabharata and wrote Ma-habharatha

He was the professor of bharti university in 1800's wrote this book by visiting every inch of bharti land, In those time people used to lie less, people were more honest so this book has more credibility than any book written nowadays.

I gave you rig vedic quotes last time in which they were denouncing idol worshipping, I dont have to prove it further

 

[divya]

Hindus are idol worshippors they may also be sun worshippors because due to rajput slavery, but most rajputs were never idol worshippors, rajputs came from central asia so were central asians also hindus

Lol now this is master piece. Rajputs were not hindus

In any hindu religious ceremony it is mandatory to invoke fire (another element of nature) first before anything.

As far as i know Rajputs were the once who were the arch devotee of Kali and Durga. Even Ram is considered to be from the suryavanshi Rajput clan.

 

[Rafi]

Hindus are idol worshippors they may also be sun worshippors because due to rajput slavery, but most rajputs were never idol worshippors, rajputs came from central asia so were central asians also hindus

The people of the Veda's as I understand it were firmly against idol worship.

 

[Bang Galore]

Its not about me, its about the aryans of sapta sindhwa(paksitan) who migrated to bharat and adopted gangan culture

btw whats wrong with calling gangetic with ganga, ganga is greek version of ganges

Sorry to burst your bubble once again. Sapta Sindhu does not mean specifically the Indus. The most important river was still the sarasvati. Sindhu was used to refer to large bodies of water(river,ocean) The Sarasvati's position was put between the sutlej & the Yamuna(both of which probably flowed into the sarasvati at the time of the rig veda). The mention of the word saptha was more because of its importance in Hindu thought(eg: saptha rishi) rather than meaning seven rivers in the actual sense. Sometimes Sarasvati was referred to having seven sisters i.e. 8 in all.

 

[divya]

He was the professor of bharti university in 1800's wrote this book by visiting every inch of bharti land, In those time people used to lie less, people were more honest so this book has more credibility than any book written nowadays.

I gave you rig vedic quotes last time in which they were denouncing idol worshipping, I dont have to prove it further

Give me links that the mantras which i have mentioned are not vedic. before doing any

Anyways i am fed up going round and round in circles with you. and posting same thing again and again.

Ok i accpet defeat

Rajputs were not hindus
Vedas have nothing to do with Hinduism
Happy now

 

[divya]

The people of the Veda's as I understand it were firmly against idol worship.

Nopes vedas itself are full of praises and glory for the lord Indra and his subordinates and later on include vishnu and shiva in the paradigm.

 

[Rafi]

YouTube - boxing champion amir khan helps flood victims

Proud Pakistani Rajput Janjua - we were warriors no one could force us to convert.

 

[Rafi]

Bhagavat Gita 7-22 : Endowed with such a faith, he endeavors to worship a particular demigod and obtains his desires. But in actuality these benefits are bestowed by Me alone.
Purport: The demigods cannot award benedictions to their devotees without the permission of the Supreme Lord. The less intelligent living entity does not know this, and therefore he foolishly goes to the demigods for some benefit. But the pure devotee, when in need of something, pray only to the Supreme Lord. A living entity goes to the demigods usually because he is mad to fulfill his lust [for material things]. Devotional service to the Supreme Lord and the worship of a demigod cannot be on the same platform, because worship of a demigod is material and devotional service to the Supreme Lord is completely spiritual.

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Bhagavat Gita 7-23 : Men of small intelligence worship the demigods, and their fruits are limited and temporary. Those who worship the demigods go to the planets of the demigods, but My devotees ultimately reach My supreme planet.

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Bhagavat Gita 7-24: "The ignorant believe that un-manifest Para Brahma (One God) incarnates or takes manifestations, because they do not completely understand My highest, immutable, incomparable, and transcendental existence."

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Bhagavat Gita 7:19-21: "All those who do idol worship, All those who worship demigods are materialistic people."

 

[Bang Galore]

rajputs came from central asia so were central asians also hindus

Well you may be interested to know that the Mittani who ruled large parts of Turkey & Syria in 1500 BCE used specifically Sanskrit words & worshiped gods of the Rig Veda i.e Indra, Agni, Mithra. There was an actual peace treaty with the Hittites that invoked these Gods as witnesses.

 

[Rafi]

Yajur Veda 3:32: "...Of that God you cannot make any images."

 

[PureAryan]

Sorry to burst your bubble once again. Sapta Sindhu does not mean specifically the Indus. The most important river was still the sarasvati. Sindhu was used to refer to large bodies of water(river,ocean) The Sarasvati's position was put between the sutlej & the Yamuna(both of which probably flowed into the sarasvati at the time of the rig veda). The mention of the word saptha was more because of its importance in Hindu thought(eg: saptha rishi) rather than meaning seven rivers in the actual sense. Sometimes Sarasvati was referred to having seven sisters i.e. 8 in all.

I am also sorry to bust your bubble, Many bharati scholar also say saraswati river was along afghanistan border so this is not confirmed where saraswati river actually was,

Lets say saraswati was in haryana as you are saying, it is part of old punjab not far from pakistani border, There are very few reference of ganga, jamuna in rig veda, but it is ful of sutlej, beas, swat kabul, indus jhelum chenab this clearly proves afghanistan and pakistan were the epicentre of aryan civilization not bharat

 

[Rafi]

Yajur Veda 32:3: "God is formless and bodiless"

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Yajur Veda 40:8: "All those who worship the uncreated things, they are in
darkness, and you'll enter more into darkness if you worship the created things."