Rummaging through history

[divya]

You write like as if i am an illiterate, i have been to delli and i had a sikh friend from delhi in high school and also had a delhite friend in Uni, so i know little bit about delhi,

Lol i live in delhi. Dont teach me delhi man.... it sounds funny

According to bhartis every ancient religion was hinduism, well if thats the case why dont we find temples thousands of years old,

well we have evidences of temples till the recorded history. You guys also claim Adam and eve but do you have evidence for them apart from scriptures.

You cant talk about facts but you can only argue, so let me say it again, Islam is older than hinduism, Hinduism developed out of brahmisnism around 7-8 century, Pakistanis were never hindus, the only few hindu architecture present in pakistan is few centuries old, The rig vedic aryans were not not idol worshippors(hindus) they were nature worshippers and they denounced idol worshipping. Nature worshipping is not idol worshipping. Already confirmed this from various sources.

Should i post those rig vedic hyms again
Second hindus are those who follow vedas. So by default those who follow vedas are hindus. As i told you previously hinudism is just a term coined to diffrentiate. there is no proper defination of hinduism ore religon in sanskrit.
Thirdly hindus still worship elements of nature.

Aint the same nonsense because of which you were banned last time.

 

[Bang Galore]

You write like as if i am an illiterate, i have been to delli and i had a sikh friend from delhi in high school and also had a delhite friend in Uni, so i know little bit about delhi,

According to bhartis every ancient religion was hinduism, well if thats the case why dont we find temples thousands of years old,

You cant talk about facts but you can only argue, so let me say it again, Islam is older than hinduism, Hinduism developed out of brahmisnism around 7-8 century, Pakistanis were never hindus, the only few hindu architecture present in pakistan is few centuries old, The rig vedic aryans were not not idol worshippors(hindus) they were nature worshippers and they denounced idol worshipping. Nature worshipping is not idol worshipping. Already confirmed this from various sources.

It's actually you who write like everyone else is illiterate. You say you have been to Delhi & therefor you draw the conclusion that you know as much about the city as a resident of delhi. It's a bit like me visiting Rome & claiming that I understand it better than the locals. Since you are really ignorant about the way Delhi is pronounced, let me help you. Delhi is called Dilli in pretty much every Indian language.

As for the Rig vedic aryans not being Hindus, that's a laugh. The gods of the Rig veda still remain the gods of Hinduism even if their relative standing has changed internally. Btw, the river that they most cared for was the Saraswati, not the Indus. It is only after that river dried up that they changed their attention to the ganges.

 

[Rafi]

Lets agree to disagree and move on - we are proud of the Indus Valley Civilization as our Pakistani Virsa and leave it at that.

 

[divya]

Lets agree to disagree and move on - we are proud of the Indus Valley Civilization as our Pakistani Virsa and leave it at that.

Buddy let me make it simple. The history of India and Pakistan is so intermingled that we cannot separate one from other does not matter how much separated we are but we own a common history starting frm IVC to Ashok to Mughals to British.

 

[PureAryan]

Lol i live in delhi. Dont teach me delhi man.... it sounds funny


well we have evidences of temples till the recorded history. You guys also claim Adam and eve but do you have evidence for them apart from scriptures.


Should i post those rig vedic hyms again
Second hindus are those who follow vedas. So by default those who follow vedas are hindus. As i told you previously hinudism is just a term coined to diffrentiate. there is no proper defination of hinduism ore religon in sanskrit.
Thirdly hindus still worship elements of nature.

Aint the same nonsense because of which you were banned last time.

Its obvious you people are hellbent on making our ancestors hindus while there is ample proof that when muslims arabs invaded sindh majority of population were budhist ruled by a repressive hindu kingdom. It seems like i am more hindu than all you bhartis, since i know more about hinduism

These are excerpts from THE EVOLUTION OF HINDUISM by Dr M Philip
It was published in 1900 when the bharati propaganda was nowhere


Hinduism denotes the various religious beliefs and
practices now prevalent in India. It differs from Vedism*,
or Brahmanism, in being more vague and compre
hensive. Vedism, or Brahmanism, denotes the ancient
religion of the Hindu-Aryans, as contained in the Vedas
and Brahmanas, in contradistinction to the religions of
the aboriginal inhabitants. Hinduism comprises the
religions of to-day, which are neither Vedic nor aboriginal,
but a fusion of corrupt Vedic doctrines with aboriginal
non-Aryan cults. Its literature is not the Veda, but the
epic poems, the Kamayana and Ma-habharata, and the
more recent Puranas.
How came the Vedic

 

[divya]

@ PureAryan listen to these

YouTube - delhi 6 / Dilli 6 Title Song ( Full Song )

YouTube - Dilli Meri Jaan.wmv

YouTube - Zameen - Dilli Ki Sardi - Amrita Arora - Bollywood Sexy Song

 

[PureAryan]

It's actually you who write like everyone else is illiterate. You say you have been to Delhi & therefor you draw the conclusion that you know as much about the city as a resident of delhi. It's a bit like me visiting Rome & claiming that I understand it better than the locals. Since you are really ignorant about the way Delhi is pronounced, let me help you. Delhi is called Dilli in pretty much every Indian language.

As for the Rig vedic aryans not being Hindus, that's a laugh. The gods of the Rig veda still remain the gods of Hinduism even if their relative standing has changed internally. Btw, the river that they most cared for was the Saraswati, not the Indus. It is only after that river dried up that they changed their attention to the ganges.

Agree, when pakistani aryans migrated to ganga valley they imposed their gods on indigenous population, These aryans also adopted gangan valley culture and due to mixing of these cultures they gave rise to brahmisnism from which hinduism developed

 

[divya]

Its obvious you people are hellbent on making our ancestors hindus while there is ample proof that when muslims arabs invaded sindh majority of population were budhist ruled by a repressive hindu kingdom. It seems like i am more hindu than all you bhartis, since i know more about hinduism

These are excerpts from THE EVOLUTION OF HINDUISM by Dr M Philip
It was published in 1900 when the bharati propaganda was nowhere


Hinduism denotes the various religious beliefs and
practices now prevalent in India. It differs from Vedism*,
or Brahmanism, in being more vague and compre
hensive. Vedism, or Brahmanism, denotes the ancient
religion of the Hindu-Aryans, as contained in the Vedas
and Brahmanas, in contradistinction to the religions of
the aboriginal inhabitants. Hinduism comprises the
religions of to-day, which are neither Vedic nor aboriginal,
but a fusion of corrupt Vedic doctrines with aboriginal
non-Aryan cults. Its literature is not the Veda, but the
epic poems, the Kamayana and Ma-habharata, and the
more recent Puranas.
How came the Vedic

lol now this is something new i am hearing about what i am practising everyday

Hinduism is the product of the seers of the Vedas. It was developed from age to age by the teachings of Avataras, Rishis, Vedas, the Upanishads, the Gita and the Itihasas. Hinduism has never been stagnant though out the ages and neither it has remained in the original form.

Do you need the links for the mention of hindu gods in vedas.

 

[Bang Galore]

Okay since you are hell bent on continuing in that form, here is something that might be of interest to you especially considering your choice of moniker.

# Similarly, the Vasistha Dharma Sutra I.8-9 and 12-13 locates Aryavarta to the east of the disappearance of the Sarasvati in the desert, to the west of Kalakavana, to the north of the mountains of Pariyatra and Vindhya and to the south of the Himalaya. Patanjali's Mahābhāṣya defines Aryavarta like the Vasistha Dharma Sutra.
# The Baudhayana Dharmasutra gives similar definitions, declaring that Aryavarta is the land that lies west of Kalakavana, east of Adarsana (where the Sarasvati disappears in the desert), south of the Himalayas and north of the Vindhyas.

Aryavarta = abode of the Aryans.

 

[divya]

PureAryan religious discussions are not allowed here. So stop here before you get banned again

 

[PureAryan]

lol now this is something new i am hearing about what i am practising everyday

Hinduism is the product of the seers of the Vedas. It was developed from age to age by the teachings of Avataras, Rishis, Vedas, the Upanishads, the Gita and the Itihasas. Hinduism has never been stagnant though out the ages and neither it has remained in the original form.

Do you need the links for the mention of hindu gods in vedas.

Like i said you can only argue hinduism's literature is not the Veda, but the epic poems, the Kamayana and Ma-habharata, and the
more recent Puranas.

Our ancestors were never hindus if they were they would have remained hindus. The regions where islam spread was where where hinduism was not majority and other ther region where islam spread was where the people of low caste were majority.

Since pakistanis were never low caste of hindus, they were defenders of bharat, destroyed 3.5 superpowers, Alexanders army, Mongol empire and Arab and Russia and pakistanis were mostly jats, rajpuits, pathan baloch all warrior races

 

[Rafi]

Divya is that really you in your avatar ??- because that picture is pretty nice looking..

 

[divya]

Divya is that really you in your avatar ??- because that picture is pretty nice looking..

no its not me.... she is an indian model...

I am 65 year old 5th wife of Amir of Saudi Arabia with 18 kids. You can guess how i look....

 

[Bang Galore]

Agree, when pakistani aryans migrated to ganga valley

There goes the theory of you being a distinct race. Btw, if they migrated to the gangetic valley(which they did), what are you? The leftover?

they imposed their gods on indigenous population, These aryans also adopted gangan valley culture and due to mixing of these cultures they gave rise to brahmisnism from which hinduism developed

more . The gangan valley culture? You now a inventor of cultures?(btw it's the gangetic plains).

 

[divya]

Like i said you can only argue hinduism's literature is not the Veda, but the epic poems, the Kamayana and Ma-habharata, and the
more recent Puranas.

Here we go again here are links from rigvedas for you

YouTube - Sri Suktam - Rig Veda Hymn with English subtitles - Mahalakshmi - Goddess of Wealth

YouTube - Agni - Rig Veda

YouTube - Ratri Suktam - Beautiful Rig Veda Hymn
YouTube - Sacred Morning Chants on Vishnu - 'Purusha Suktam" A Sanskrit Rig Veda Hymn (Must Listen)
YouTube - Hymns From The Vedas - Creation

Our ancestors were never hindus if they were they would have remained hindus. The regions where islam spread was where where hinduism was not majority and other ther region where islam spread was where the people of low caste were majority.

The chaudharies, Maliks and Jatts were not low class hindus. And they are quite some plenty in Pakistan.

Since pakistanis were never low caste of hindus, they were defenders of bharat, destroyed 3.5 superpowers, Alexanders army, Mongol empire and Arab and Russia and pakistanis were mostly jats, rajpuits, pathan baloch all warrior races

None of the you have mentioned are low class hindus. Rajput itself is a clan of Khatriyas which belongs to the clan of warriors.