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Ruling party, PPP oppose PTI’s key election reform proposals

Isn't army was totally involved in previous elections yet PTI claimed dhandhli.

Difference between providing security outside the polling stations and presiding over the elections.

What ever happens if PTI loses they will claim dhandhli.

Can't do much when 60% of Form 15's are missing for the 2013 elections. Form 15 forms the basis of the election.
 
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This is why Pakistanis will never be free to elect a competent leader. Most political parties in Pakistan have an ambition to enslave, starve and isolate the population of basic human rights. Forget about Modis aggression Pakistanis need to act agaisnt thier own jungle warlords.
 
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Army was Involved In Rigging
Election Commission was Involved In Rigging
Chief Justice was Involved In Rigging
Police was Involved In Rigging
Patwari were Involved In Rigging
They bought the RO's
They bought People by offering them Biryani
We didn't get the Chance to do Election Campaign
Those Constituencies from where we won there were Free and Fair Election no need to check
We have Proofs of rigging
we will give Dharna


Happened in 2013 gonna happen in 2018
:drag::drag::drag::drag::drag:
 
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ISLAMABAD: The members of the ruling PML-N and the main opposition PPP in the Parliamentary Committee on Electoral Reforms on Thursday opposed two key proposals of the PTI - appointment of returning officers (ROs) from the military and changing the mechanism for the appointment of a caretaker government before general elections.

Talking to reporters after presiding over a meeting of a subcommittee, Law Minister Zahid Hamid claimed that the PTI’s two proposals had been rejected by a majority of the members.

The PTI in its new proposals submitted to the committee had called for drawing the ROs from the defence forces. The PTI had also suggested that the interim government should be appointed through a parliamentary committee and there should be no role of the prime minister and the opposition leader in the process.

The minister said the parties had no objection to the PTI’s proposal regarding elections under army’s supervision but said it was the discretion of the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) to decide about the deployment of troops at polling stations.

Ishaq Dar rejects possiblity of early election; hopes reforms will be finalised before budget
Mr Hamid said they also supported the PTI’s proposal that the members of the parliament should be allowed to visit the constituencies. He, however, said the ECP was against this proposal. The issue would now be decided by the main committee.

Mr Hamid had earlier claimed that his subcommittee would finish its job on Thursday and send the unresolved issues to the main committee. However, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar after presiding over the meeting of the PCER in the afternoon announced that the subcommittee would now hold meetings on a daily basis.

When contacted, PPP’s parliamentary leader Syed Naveed Qamar criticised the working of the two committees, saying it seemed they were playing a football game. He said the subcommittee had decided to refer the unresolved matters to the main committee but the latter sent the ball back to the court of the subcommittee.

Dr Arif Alvi of the PTI told Dawn that if the committee rejected their proposals the party would move amendments to the bills whenever these would be tabled in the parliament.

The finance minister expressed the hope that the electoral reforms package would be ready before the announcement of the next budget. He said the committee had received 631 new proposals from the parties and the citizens after presentation of the second interim report on electoral reforms by him in the Senate and National Assembly in December last year.

The minister said they had decided to first finish the work on the unification of election laws after which they would work on the unification of election rules. In the third and last phase, the constitutional amendments required for the electoral reforms would be taken up.

In reply to another question, the minister ruled out the possibility of before-time elections. He said no such plan was under consideration at any stage. However, he said, it was the prerogative of the prime minister to make any decision regarding holding of early elections.

He said it was after 40 years that they were changing the elections laws considering it a national cause. He said work on electoral reforms got delayed due to the issue of the military courts. “Now we intend to complete the necessary work on a fast pace.”

About the possibility of using electronic voting machines and biometric verification machines, Mr Dar said it would be premature to make any statement on the matter as they were still discussing the effectiveness of the use of technology and the issues related to the national security.

It may be recalled that the PCER and its subcommittee formed by the National Assembly speaker in 2014 have already held over 100 meetings but the contentious issues such as the use of EVMs and BVMs and the right of vote to the overseas Pakistanis are still lingering.

The draft of the Election Law 2017 had been presented by Mr Dar as the head of the parliamentary committee through an interim report on December 20 last year in both the houses of the parliament. Presenting the report, the minister had stated that the committee had decided to seek a feedback from all the stakeholders, including the parliamentarians, within 30 days after which the committee would prepare a final draft.

Published in Dawn, April 14th, 2017

what a joke, Local Bodies Elections where conducted by PTI government in KPK, i think they have to implement their reforms and let us knew , that's the model of rigging free elections.

Even Provincial Election commission is still under PTI government, and what reforms they introduced ?

Army was Involved In Rigging
Election Commission was Involved In Rigging
Chief Justice was Involved In Rigging
Police was Involved In Rigging
Patwari were Involved In Rigging
They bought the RO's
They bought People by offering them Biryani
We didn't get the Chance to do Election Campaign
Those Constituencies from where we won there were Free and Fair Election no need to check
We have Proofs of rigging
we will give Dharna


Happened in 2013 gonna happen in 2018
:drag::drag::drag::drag::drag:


but no rigging in KPK Elections?
 
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what a joke, Local Bodies Elections where conducted by PTI government in KPK, i think they have to implement their reforms and let us knew , that's the model of rigging free elections.

Even Provincial Election commission is still under PTI government, and what reforms they introduced ?




but no rigging in KPK Elections?

Nope those were Fair and Square
 
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5 years wasted by PML-N and Dictator Nawaz Sharif but still no electricity, no reforms in health and education, zero economic improvement. IMF loans are still there, But Muk Muka between Noonies and Bhuttos is sky-high. Dr. Asim and Ayyan Ali Bailed and now are roaming free with billion of dollars at stake. Karachi Operation Stopped. Lahore becoming Paris with Orange train. Improvement in the Corruption department is at a all-time high. Mindless Scums still following !!!!

Good Days of Noonies and Bhuttos .:cheers:

Wish them Good luck in Destroying Homeland inch by inch !!!!! :angel:
 
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PPP and PMLN were both responsible for massive rigging in 2013 and they know they would lose badly if free and fair elections will be conducted. It won't be wrong to say that all parties will deny these electoral reforms except PTI because it is the only party that wants a real democracy to be established through free and fair elections.
 
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PPP and PMLN were both responsible for massive rigging in 2013 and they know they would lose badly if free and fair elections will be conducted. It won't be wrong to say that all parties will deny these electoral reforms except PTI because it is the only party that wants a real democracy to be established through free and fair elections.

Brother,

telling u ,2018 Elections according to PTI will be rigged!
I hope u understand what i mean .
 
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What is the criminal status-quo in the first place? Define it first before finding the cure.
If you do not regard Zardari,Nawaz Shreef,Chaudheries of Gujrat,mullah fazal, Asfand Lal topi,and their cronies as morally and politically corrupt Ruleing gang,masquerading as patriotic "politicians ",any answer will be a futile attempt.
 
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If you do not regard Zardari,Nawaz Shreef,Chaudheries of Gujrat,mullah fazal, Asfand Lal topi,and their cronies as morally and politically corrupt Ruleing gang,masquerading as patriotic "politicians ",any answer will be a futile attempt.
So safe to say, you don't know the definition yourself.
Just one quick question , if status quo is what you're trying to relate to, then how would this be called anti status quo?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1325262
 
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So safe to say, you don't know the definition yourself.
Just one quick question , if status quo is what you're trying to relate to, then how would this be called anti status quo?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1325262
Pakistan,since it's inception has been ruled by the unionists,disguised as Muslim leagues,people parties,aided by mullahs,Surkh topi pathans,secular fascist faction of media and above all the capitalist banker/industrialist mafia.This is totally opposite to the Nazeria e Pakis.tan/Iqbal r a.This ruling budmuaashia will go the extent of breaking up the country to maintain feudal /industrialist status quo. This ruling budmuaashia will not willingly accept any change,even if someone like Imran Khan, endeavours to give human face to prevalent CAPITALIST system.
 
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Pakistan,since it's inception has been ruled by the unionists,disguised as Muslim leagues,people parties,aided by mullahs,Surkh topi pathans,secular fascist faction of media and above all the capitalist banker/industrialist mafia.This is totally opposite to the Nazeria e Pakis.tan/Iqbal r a.This ruling budmuaashia will go the extent of breaking up the country to maintain feudal /industrialist status quo. This ruling budmuaashia will not willingly accept any change,even if someone like Imran Khan, endeavours to give human face to prevalent CAPITALIST system.
Instead of giving me an emo story, I would request to know what constitutes the status quo and whats hallal and haram for anti-status quo?
 
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Instead of giving me an emo story, I would request to know what constitutes the status quo and whats hallal and haram for anti-status quo?
Status quo is!
Present situation/Cambridge Uni
Existing state of affairs/RegardingSocial or Political Issues.
I gave the historical and present day realities for a context,but it has become obvious there is not only a lack of historical knowledge but no sense of observing present day realities.My 20 years old g son could not stop laughing at the maturity of the question asked.
 
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