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[Tridibans]

you dont thinking of these people. they want India to be once again ruled by muslims. if we dont do anything now our future generations will be slaves to these muslims.

How can you say all of them are like that. Aren't there Kalam or Azad or A.R Rehman for every nuthobs like Owaisi or Yakub or Dawood?" You cannot generalise a whole section.

I agree that the pseudo-secularism practiced in India has caused more harm to India than anything else (especially by Congress) but that doesn't mean I should hate Muslims or any minority. BTW, anti nationals have no place in our land. be it Yakud Memon or Afzal guru.... or Owaisi as far as I am concerned. We don't need fake secularism to protect our minorities. Hinduism is secular and it is inbulit in our culture.

Whatever secularism we practice in India is not only regressive, vote bank appeasement politics but also its contradictory in itself. People say Modi is anti muslim because he refused to wear skull cap. In that case, any Muslim who doesn'y wear a tilak is anti-Hindu... isn't it?

 

[navtrek]

What do the 3 colors on India's flag stand for?

Saffron = Hindu
Green = Islam
White = Atheists?

saffron, white and green were chosen for the three bands, representing courage and sacrifice, peace and truth, and faith and chivalry respectively.

 

[Tridibans]

if we dont do anything now our future generations will be slaves to these muslims.
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That will never happen. Deep down your hearts, even @SarthakGanguly knows this. Hindus are united like never before. When we were united in our history (Mauryan empire, Gupta empire etc, we were never suppressed or shrinked. ) When the middle age invaders came, we were fighting amongst ourselves and let them in. Do you really believe Ghazni or Ghori would have even survived one battle if kingdoms from across India had been united?

Today India is stronger than ever (atleast in modern times). Hindus are here to stay. We have survived thousand years of oppression and what not. We retreated to live another day and living to have a glorious future is what we are.

 

[danger007]

There are many verses who condemn non believers to hell fire, would you support that too if someone wants to paint that on walls? Anyway my basic point was that "it's provocative". Why indulge in it in the first place? Lets agree to disagree here, as our conversation is sinking further into religious debate.

I respect everyone's religious beliefs but i won't stay silent if mine are mocked, ridiculed or demonized unnecessarily just because people with vested interest can't stand the sight of Modi as PM.

I saw plenty slogans and verses of Hinduism in streets... it's not that only Christians paint such verses. ... I pay no attention on them... it's their own belief... I don't have right to say against me them not i pay attention. ... Christianity believes in one god.... why don't we pay attention on goodies from our religions. .... you may not be commenting aware how i comment on Some so called preachers in Christianity. ... there buffoons in Christians who is using religion ... just like random Babas who is using religion for money.... again am saying it's the people who make the difference by misinterpreting the religious faith....

 

[ravi kiran]

How can you say all of them are like that. Aren't their Kalam or Azad or A.R Rehman for every nuthobs like Owaisi or Yakub or Dawood?" You cannot generalise a whole section.

I agree that the pseudo-secularism practiced in India has caused more harm to India than anything else (especially by Congress) but that doesn't mean I should hate Muslims or any minority. BTW, anti nationals have no place in our land. be it Yakud Memon or Afzal guru.... or Owaisi as far as I am concerned. We don't need fake secularism to protect our minorities. Hinduism is secular and it is inbulit in our culture.

Whatever secularism we practice in India is not only regressive, vote bank appeasement politics but also its contradictory in itself. People say Modi is anti muslim because he refused to wear skull cap. In that case, any Muslim who doesn'y wear a tilak is anti-Hindu... isn't it?

please tell me how can i distinguish good muslims and bad muslims from 25 crore muslims?
do you know how many people attended funeral of yakub? what were slogans in his funeral?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Deep down your hearts, even @SarthakGanguly knows this. Hindus are united like never before.

You know what - I will NEVER underestimate the Hindu capacity and desire to be a WILLING slave. So when it comes to Hindu or Dharmic strength and cohesion, I will take it all with a pinch of salt. I admit, the signs are good now. But I will be on my guard.

 

[doublemaster]

mean while

https://twitter.com/x/status/649143546398642176

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I saw plenty slogans and verses of Hinduism in streets

Which slogan said that Krishna or Shiva is the only God worthy of worship?

 

[doublemaster]

please tell me how can i distinguish good muslims and bad muslims from 25 crore muslims?
do you know how many people attended funeral of yakub? what were slogans in his funeral?

Neither yakub couldnt distinguish Rioters and Human-Hindus. You both have same problem and need same medicine

 

[ravi kiran]

That will never happen. Deep down your hearts, even @SarthakGanguly knows this. Hindus are united like never before. When we were united in our history (Mauryan empire, Gupta empire etc, we were never suppressed or shrinked. ) When the middle age invaders came, we were fighting amongst ourselves and let them in. Do you really believe Ghazni or Ghori would have even survived one battle if kingdoms from across India had been united?

Today India is stronger than ever (atleast in modern times). Hindus are here to stay. We have survived thousand years of oppression and what not. We retreated to live another day and living to have a glorious future is what we are.

You know what - I will NEVER underestimate the Hindu capacity and desire to be a WILLING slave. So when it comes to Hindu or Dharmic strength and cohesion, I will take it all with a pinch of salt. I admit, the signs are good now. But I will be on my guard.

whatever we will not take any chances now. precaution is better than cure.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I agree that the pseudo-secularism practiced in India has caused more harm to India than anything else (especially by Congress) but that doesn't mean I should hate Muslims or any minority.

If Modi shows mercy(as is his present policy), they will return. And they will wipe these sorry Hindus out with a vengeance. Like during the Emergency and even before - Hindutva activists will be simply disappeared or Shyama Prasad Mukherjee-ed. etc etc.

 

[Tridibans]

please tell me how can i distinguish good muslims and bad muslims from 25 crore muslims?
do you know how many people attended funeral of yakub? what were slogans in his funeral?

There is nothing like good muslim or bad muslim. There are Indians and anti nationals. Most of the crowd in Yakub funeral were from outside Mumbai. I am a mumbaikar. I know what I am saying.

You can find these anti-nationals (who have heart filled hate for India and Hindus) in Mumbra/ Bhiwandi etc. They are brainwashed and are the first ones to enlist for Jihadists like ISIS or SIMI. You don't know this perhaps, but Mumbai is one of the most saffronised cities in India with Shiv Sena units everywhere. People who believe BJP is Hindutvawadi don't know what a Shiv Sainik is

 

[danger007]

Which slogan said that Krishna or Shiva is the only God worthy of worship?

I just said slogans and verses...I don't remember exactly sort of Lord shiva is god of gods n all... .. i paid no attention... I have seen arguments between Iscan guy and another guy who praised lord Shiva....

 

[doublemaster]

There is nothing like good muslim or bad muslim. There are Indians and anti nationals. Most of the crowd in Yakub funeral were from outside Mumbai. I am a mumbaikar. I know what I am saying.

You can find these anti-nationals (who have heart filled hate for India and Hindus) in Mumbra/ Bhiwandi etc. They are brainwashed and are the first ones to enlist for Jihadists like ISIS or SIMI. You don't know this perhaps, but Mumbai is one of the most saffronised cities in India with Shiv Sena units everywhere. People who believe BJP is Hindutvawadi don't know what a Shiv Sainik is

So why would people not attend his funeral? when people can support 2002 because of Godra riot? When people can become CM and become leader after rioting? When riot killers can rule Mahharastra, why wouldnt one who took revenge people can not attend funeral? Why Rajiv Gandhi + Indira Gandhi killers should get state support?

 

[Tridibans]

You know what - I will NEVER underestimate the Hindu capacity and desire to be a WILLING slave. So when it comes to Hindu or Dharmic strength and cohesion, I will take it all with a pinch of salt. I admit, the signs are good now. But I will be on my guard.

I agree. And these slaves are what we call today... 'Sickulars' and 'Adarsh Liberals' aka Sagarika or Mani Shankar.

But don't worry. For every sickular, there are 5 people like Modi or RSS or normal day to day religious Hindu or Kalam or TDP... etc. They all may not be Hindutwavadis or anti- muslims... but they are culturally Hindus and take pride in that. As long as they are in majority, we are safe.