Rs500m uplift grant for each lawmaker okayed

[Indus Pakistan]

IK called these funds: “root cause of corruption in the country and political bribe” before coming to power.

Yes, it is form of corruption. And I support this. I would much prefer that 500 people in Pakistan, politicians, so called industrialists, etc are taken into dark cells, tortured and killed. But Pakistan is not Turkey, not China, not Russia so this is the only alternative.

 

[PakSword]

Source:

Chairman Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), Imran Khan Monday expressed the resolve to put an end to the funds issued to MNAs and MPAs if his party is elected to power in the upcoming polls.

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Source:

“Discretionary funds are a contempt of taxpayers’ money,” Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry quoted Prime Minister Imran Khan as saying during the cabinet meeting.
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He said unfortunately the previous governments spent public funds in a way if it were their own money and not of taxpayers.

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Source:

IK called these funds: “root cause of corruption in the country and political bribe” before coming to power.

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Source: Me:

"Tumhara kutta kutta, humara kutta tommy"

Well I disagreed with his stance even in his initial days. MNAs MPAs get the votes and they should have the responsibility to do work of their voters.

Baqi, IK ka stance uss waqt bhi ghalat tha.. jab woh kehta tha ke MNAs ko funds nahi milnay chahien.

MNAs aur MPAs should get the funds but their should be strict accountability over their spending. Right now, MNAs/ MPAs are only there to raise their hands when a new bill is intoduced.. without even reading that.. After local body elections, the development work will be done by the elected administrators, however, MNAs and MPAs will continue to raise their hands in favor or against the laws/ bills on the instructions of their respective parties.

Fazul main extra layer hai.. inn hadd haraamon se kaam lo aur inn ki accountability karo.. They should have an additional responsibility to work like local area administrators.. so that people remember them to vote for them again or kick them out forever.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Lol so each MNA cost 500 million to keep it's support for the government ....this is pure bribe out of tax payer money...as usual ...no change

Bingo.

 

[VCheng]

It depends on how you define Naya Pakistan. To my eyes is Naya Pakistan. Nawaz is not in power. End off.

I can agree with that. All there has been is a change of the figurehead, that is all. As you admit, that is enough for you. Others may have been expecting some more substantive given the tall claims about the tabdeeli that was promised. How boringly predictable. Even that is okay. at least until the real issues resurge- the economy, the BoP, circular debt, inflation -as they inevitably will.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

All there has been is a change of the figurehead

Is that not what you had in Washington recently. You shifted out the orange man for walking corpse? Only differance you almost had a civil war doing it?

 

[ziaulislam]

There is no mention of tendering for projects.

If Sindh is the excuse, why are funds being provided to MNAs and MPAs all over the country? Or to MNAs and MPAs in Punjab and KPK where PTI rules?

Why can't the Federal Government launch its own projects rather than giving this money to MNAs and MPAs?

Why was this bad under previous governments, but halaal under PTI?

Please don't justify this just because its IK/PTI. Noonis and Jialas are made fun of because blind support, seems IK/PTI fan boys are no different.

fderal govt can lauch project in karachi becaus eprovincial govt wont let it..
provincial govt is askign for money not projects
now the amry stepped in asked sindh govt to handle the karachi waste and water board to city like it was pre 2008 but the sindh govt has renegade from its promise

whats the solution

PTI should do new census via third independent body ..this will make urban sindh share at 50-60%

second thing is what karachi people need to do, dont give 15% provincial votes to PPPP

combined with these two the next CM will be from karachi


but i expect most karachi pople will vote bhutto back..its a love hate relation ship..syed ghani says its openly..karchi walo ko PPPP is payar hey isleya mujay vote deya

 

[Mentee]

Excellent move..
IK is learning as a politican
Now he may be able to win those seats back

Broad day light chori by the mp's abetted by mr prime minister. The constitution is quite clear about the legislative role of assembly members . So why are they so interested in constructing naalia'n and gutter instead of enacting laws? Isn't it the job of city and town mayors to administer and uplift public facilities? Whatever happened to vote ko izzat do ?

 

[El Sidd]

Encouraging news indeed.

Although I must point out 2 things:

1) 500mn PKr is too little a money for most infrastructure projects needed.

2) Where is the social justice merit in awarding the same amount to everyone?

 

[Patriot forever]

Broad day light chori by the mp's abetted by mr prime minister. The constitution is quite clear about the legislative role of assembly members . So why are they so interested in constructing naalia'n and gutter instead of enacting laws? Isn't it the job of city and town mayors to administer and uplift public facilities? Whatever happened to vote ko izzat do ?

People don't vote for MNA's and MPA's based on this role. What they expect from them is to solve their local issues. I have no problem with the funds but with the way in which they are given.
For example give them a budget/quota and tell them to bring local projects. Hold a tender and fund those projects.
I am sure it will be done in a proper way.

 

[Mentee]

People don't vote for MNA's and MPA's based on this role. What they expect from them is to solve their local issues. I have no problem with the funds but with the way in which they are given.
For example give them a budget/quota and tell them to bring local projects. Hold a tender and fund those projects.
I am sure it will be done in a proper way.

As usual ransom is being given to electables to save the chair

 

[Norwegian]

As usual ransom is being given to electables to save the chair

Purana Pakistan returns

 

[Patriot forever]

As usual ransom is being given to electables to save the chair

Nope not for that, they needed the funds for local work as local body elections are near. They have not been given any funds for the past 2 1/2 years, that is where majority of their complain was. Even people like Najeeb Haroon submitted their resignation (still in PTI) because they were not able to do anything for their constituency. I am mentioning this because the problem was there for a long time.

 

[Silverblaze]

Well I disagreed with his stance even in his initial days. MNAs MPAs get the votes and they should have the responsibility to do work of their voters.

Baqi, IK ka stance uss waqt bhi ghalat tha.. jab woh kehta tha ke MNAs ko funds nahi milnay chahien.

MNAs aur MPAs should get the funds but their should be strict accountability over their spending. Right now, MNAs/ MPAs are only there to raise their hands when a new bill is intoduced.. without even reading that.. After local body elections, the development work will be done by the elected administrators, however, MNAs and MPAs will continue to raise their hands in favor or against the laws/ bills on the instructions of their respective parties.

Fazul main extra layer hai.. inn hadd haraamon se kaam lo aur inn ki accountability karo.. They should have an additional responsibility to work like local area administrators.. so that people remember them to vote for them again or kick them out forever.

Please read these points.

How can anyone ensure accountability of thousands of law makers?

How can mnas and mpas have a holistic view of an entire city? Each mna mpa will move in separate directions and result is what is now uncordinated urban developmemt with billions wasted.

If the purpose was to give money to mnas mpas ppp and pmln are experts why not let them do it.

Ik could have at least appointed nazims and given them funds.

 

[PakSword]

Please read these points.

How can anyone ensure accountability of thousands of law makers?

How can mnas and mpas have a holistic view of an entire city? Each mna mpa will move in separate directions and result is what is now uncordinated urban developmemt with billions wasted.

If the purpose was to give money to mnas mpas ppp and pmln are experts why not let them do it.

Ik could have at least appointed nazims and given them funds.

Just like you ensure accountability of tens of thousands of councillors.

In Pakistan electables get elected every time to do nothing except raising their hands in legislative assemblies on the instructions of their respective party leaders.

When a law or a bill is intriduced, hardly few people know the details of what's written in the proposed draft. Your tax money is being wasted on their salaries/ TA/ DA for just obeying their masters.

Get them to work!! Let them solve problems of their constituencies. On the other hand, push Accountant General Office to work as well.

When once in a blue moon a new law or a bill is proposed, give them the oppotunity to discuss in the parliament..

At this moment, these elected fat **** are only sitting on TV shows and indulging in useless arguments.

How can mnas and mpas have a holistic view of an entire city? Each mna mpa will move in separate directions and result is what is now uncordinated urban developmemt with billions wasted.

MNAs and MPAs can elect the city mayor as well.. why an additional layer is my question.

 

[Silverblaze]

Just like you ensure accountability of tens of thousands of councillors.

In Pakistan electables get elected every time to do nothing except raising their hands in legislative assemblies on the instructions of their respective party leaders.

When a law or a bill is intriduced, hardly few people know the details of what's written in the proposed draft. Your tax money is being wasted on their salaries/ TA/ DA for just obeying their masters.

Get them to work!! Let them solve problems of their constituencies. On the other hand, push Accountant General Office to work as well.

When once in a blue moon a new law or a bill is proposed, give them the oppotunity to discuss in the parliament..

At this moment, these elected fat **** are only sitting on TV shows and indulging in useless arguments.

MNAs and MPAs can elect the city mayor as well.. why an additional layer is my question.

I dont think an mna in islamabad or an mpa in lahore can effectively run his halqa let alone a city.

Mnas and mpas will have funds as their incentives and not legislation.

Only Mayors or town managers must have budget. Mnas and mpas from respective cities can hold them accountable.

Mayors or nazims or town managers, preferrably apolitical, will give rise to a new leadership and develop their city as a whole. Erdogan is an example.

I cant think of any example where fed or provincial lawmakers run admin and development.

Hope i am utterly wrong but this is what will happen.

All this money to mpas and mnas will go to their uncles brothers in laws or friend thaikaydars. They will do substandard work which will break down and they will get elected again and if nab does something plea bargain will come into play and after 3 years govt will be back to imf.