Royal Indian Navy mutiny which gave a jolt to the Britishers

[abtank10]

read it for the first time. Really our history books should be reviewed & most space should be given to struggle of Azad hind fauz & their contribution to Indias Independence added with various mutiny by soldiers of Indian british forces.

sidewinder please do see the mutiny memorial in colaba , its in front of sailors club.......

 

[Capt.Popeye]

sidewinder please do see the mutiny memorial in colaba , its in front of sailors club.......

It is a recent thing. The IN has chosen to remember its own. The GoI has nearly forgotten that episode.

 

[abtank10]

It is a recent thing. The IN has chosen to remember its own. The GoI has nearly forgotten that episode.

hahahahaha i have seen so many sailors abusing Britishers in front of this park after they are drunk ....sweet memories

 

[Guynextdoor2]

BS. It was not a question of 'not supporting' it. The movement had already become 'non violent struggle', so an armed insurrection was not supportable by the Indian leaders.

 

[punit]

weren't the most loyal citizens of the king the sanghis, like "veer" savarkar??

and thats why Savarkar was sentenced for life in Andaman jail.

 

[jamahir]

and thats why Savarkar was sentenced for life in Andaman jail.

right... we of course will ignore the apology and collaboration that savarkar volunteered to the british royalty afterward... from ( Unveiling Savarkar: Picture Imperfect )...

But the brave ‘Veer’ facet evaporated rapidly after his re-arrest and trial, when he was taken to the Andamans in 1911. Before spending even a single year there, he sent a petition begging for release. In a letter dated November 24, 1913, he repeated this petition, promising to mend his ways, and become “the staunchest advocate … of loyalty to the Government … where else can the prodigal son return but to the parental doors of the Government?” Again in 1925, he sent a petition begging for release, and promising not to engage in politics “without the consent of the Government”. By then, of course, he had produced his essay on Hindutva (1923), and had emerged as a proponent of ‘Hindu Rashtra’ and his targets, in his writings as well as his politics, become the Muslims rather than the British.

But even if we keep aside the fact that thousands like Bhagat Singh scorned the idea of applying for clemency, such illusions about Savarkar’s motives are belied by the fact that he never again took any part in the freedom movement. Instead his new-found ‘Hindutva nationalism’ made it easy for him to keep his promises of cooperating with the British. He met Viceroy Linlithgow on October 9, 1939, as a leader of Hindu Mahasabha, and offered to collaborate with the British; this was the same month when Indian ministers in the provinces were resigning in protest. Linlithgow responded warmly, “Our interests were now the same and we must work together. Even though now the most moderate of men, he had himself been in the past the adherent of a revolutionary party … But now that our interests were so closely bound together the essential thing was for Hinduism and Great Britain to be friends, and the old antagonism was no longer necessary.”(see A.G. Noorani’s article in Hindustan Times, March 3)

not to say the declaration by the sanghi national government in 1998 or so that india, usa and israel are "natural allies".

not to say that the same sanghi government volunteered one battalion of the indian army to go to iraq in 2003 as participant in the nato invasion and kill iraqis, especially president saddam hussain... quite the contrast with the mutiny in the op.

hahahahaha i have seen so many sailors abusing Britishers in front of this park after they are drunk ....sweet memories

and when they are not drunk??

 

[punit]

right... we of course will ignore the apology and collaboration that savarkar volunteered to the british royalty afterward... from ( Unveiling Savarkar: Picture Imperfect )...




not to say the declaration by the sanghi national government in 1998 or so that india, usa and israel are "natural allies".

not to say that the same sanghi government volunteered one battalion of the indian army to go to iraq in 2003 as participant in the nato invasion and kill iraqis, especially president saddam hussain... quite the contrast with the mutiny in the op.

wow what a source .. direct from the arde of CPI! how rich coming from the biggest arselicker of british rules in India.
and what is wrong with India and israel being ally ? 1000 times better than scums ruling ME. meanwhile please provide a link for the claim of Indian army volunteering for Iraq under NDA rule in 2003 or shut ur pie hole !

 

[jamahir]

wow what a source ..

this matter is well known... there are other sources too, you may consult them... and the source i gave is free of reactionary thought which may infect others and prevent from narrating the background.

how rich coming from the biggest arselicker of british rules in India.

it is just your hatreds making you saying that, but you must acknowledge that even the saudis have more dignity than the sanghis when licking boots of western governments.

and what is wrong with India and israel being ally ?

i am not automatic enemy of israel... they have every right to exist as a people... but indian establishment wanting friendship with israel is different from indian establishment wanting peace for israel and palestine.

the solution for the israel-palestine problem has long existed... "isratin" ( The White Book And The Isratin Proposal | Libyan Revolutionary Committees Movement ).. israel should only be seen in this context.

1000 times better than scums ruling ME.

if you mean the gulfis, then they are our problem... by "our" i mean muslims and anti-imperlaists/socialist... not many muslims on pdf respect the gulfis.

meanwhile please provide a link for the claim of Indian army volunteering for Iraq under NDA rule in 2003 or shut ur pie hole !

i was in my 20's in 2003 and i do not understand the necessity of you teenage males to use bad language.

the issue was all over the media then... you may consult with any older officer in the army.

however, from ( Washington presses India to send troops to Iraq - World Socialist Web Site )...

The US has requested that India send a full army brigade of more than 17,000 troops to take on the responsibility of administering the northern sector of Iraq—an area of sharp tensions between ethnic Kurds and Arabs. If New Delhi agrees, the Indian force will be larger than the present British contingent and second only to the US military force itself.

Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee has been seeking to cement a close political and strategic relationship with Bush administration ever since it came to office.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair reinforced the US push for Indian troops when Advani stopped in London on his way back to India. Washington also boosted the stature of the Pentagon team sent to New Delhi on June 16 by sending Assistant Secretary of Defence Peter Rodham to provide the necessary “clarifications”.

 

[The_Sidewinder]

sidewinder please do see the mutiny memorial in colaba , its in front of sailors club.......

I will bro.

 

[abtank10]

and when they are not drunk??

they dont drink while they are on ship............my father was also in the navy retired in 2013

 

[Levina]

The article, for unknown reason misses out the facts that, apart of HMIS Talwar, there were other ships also like HMIS Sutlej and Jumna, whose crews refused to eat or work. HMIs Narbada had turned it guns to the Bombay Yatch club (Must be an intense moment of panic and nervous break down for its members). And crews of HMIS Hindustan in Karachi shouted Jai HInd and fired on the city. The British response to these mutinies were equally ruthless and swift as they usually had been, but it gave the strongest impression to London that without British Civil and military presence in India, such armed uprising would hardly be possible to forestall in future.

Come on!
Its just a tiny article on RIN's mutiny and not a wikipedia link that would 've mentioned all the names.
Or may be the author mentioned Talwar's name because the tricolor, crescent and hammer and sickle-flags were together raised on the mast heads of Talwar. The author has forgotten to mention HMIS bahadur also, but I must say HMIS Hindustan had a vital role to play during the mutiny. Fortunately this mutiny wasn't as bloody as the previous mutiny (of 1857).
My guess is that Gandhi and the Congress leadership had ostensibly been concerned, that the mutiny would compromise the strategy of a negotiated and constitutional settlement with Britishers and ergo they did not support RIN's mutiny.

Thanks for sharing the pics.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Come on!
Its just a tiny article on RIN's mutiny and not a wikipedia link that would 've mentioned all the names.
Or may be the author mentioned Talwar's name because the tricolor, crescent and hammer and sickle-flags were together raised on the mast heads of Talwar. The author has forgotten to mention HMIS bahadur also, but I must say HMIS Hindustan had a vital role to play during the mutiny. Fortunately this mutiny wasn't as bloody as the previous mutiny (of 1857).
My guess is that Gandhi and the Congress leadership had ostensibly been concerned, that the mutiny would compromise the strategy of a negotiated and constitutional settlement with Britishers and ergo they did not support RIN's mutiny.


Thanks for sharing the pics.

That factor was undoubtedly there, plus there was the situation that it was a Mutiny after all; even though it got dove-tailed into the freedom struggle.

Later there was a move to re-instate the men; both of the RIN and the INA into service or at least restore their service records and benefits. But Sardar Patel ruled that out; only later they were acknowledged with 'tamrapatras', but not as service-men.

 

[punit]

this matter is well known... there are other sources too, you may consult them... and the source i gave is free of reactionary thought which may infect others and prevent from narrating the background.



it is just your hatreds making you saying that, but you must acknowledge that even the saudis have more dignity than the sanghis when licking boots of western governments.



i am not automatic enemy of israel... they have every right to exist as a people... but indian establishment wanting friendship with israel is different from indian establishment wanting peace for israel and palestine.

the solution for the israel-palestine problem has long existed... "isratin" ( The White Book And The Isratin Proposal | Libyan Revolutionary Committees Movement ).. israel should only be seen in this context.



if you mean the gulfis, then they are our problem... by "our" i mean muslims and anti-imperlaists/socialist... not many muslims on pdf respect the gulfis.



i was in my 20's in 2003 and i do not understand the necessity of you teenage males to use bad language.

the issue was all over the media then... you may consult with any older officer in the army.

however, from ( Washington presses India to send troops to Iraq - World Socialist Web Site )...

so Washington asking for troop deployment is equal to India actually sending its troop !please stop embarrassing urself and if not own self respect than think about ur family's!

 

[Rau]

right... we of course will ignore the apology and collaboration that savarkar volunteered to the british royalty afterward... from ( Unveiling Savarkar: Picture Imperfect )...

Nobody is perfect.....please clear fact...why he accept apology...to understand how much trouble he and his family gone for that read book about him named "Kalepaani" its nearly impossible to bear such torture... Please don't see everything in green light.