Turkey can in fact make much more damage than iran can do in terms of supporting separatist groups
This is a very dumb statement. What separatist groups do you think Turkey can support and how?
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Turkey can in fact make much more damage than iran can do in terms of supporting separatist groups
I already did that , just search the Iranian section of the forum but as a reminderRelease a list. No one is stopping you.
A coalition of forces opposing Iraq's aggression was formed, consisting of forces from 34 countries: Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Egypt, France, Greece, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Niger, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Spain, Syria, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, and the US itself. It was the largest coalition since World War II.[98] US Army General Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr. was designated to be the commander of the coalition forces in the Persian Gulf area. The Soviet Union also supported United States intervention.
Although they did not contribute any forces, Japan and Germany made financial contributions totaling $10 billion and $6.6 billion respectively. US troops represented 73% of the coalition's 956,600 troops in Iraq.[99]
I already did that , just search the Iranian section of the forum but as a reminder
After the 9/11 attacks, one particular country allocated three airbases to the United States for the invasion of Afghanistan. USA depends on that particular country for a route to Afghanistan to supply the ISAF forces more than any source. and also the same country open its air to the USA forces en-route to Afghanistan on the mission of bombing weddings and school buses a and truck filled with mine workers
by the way did you knew Albania, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, UAE, Jordan, Turkey and Malaysia are still part of ISAF
and the one who support Iraq war in 1993
show us one incident that Iranian official supported USA attack on those two countriesWhy the Iranians were cheerleading the Americans to attack Afghanistan and Iraq? Who knows may be the iranians thought that having two of its neighbours destabised will allow scum like the IRGC scum to roam free.
show us one incident that Iranian official supported USA attack on those two countries
its simple you don't find it if you had the timeI haven't got that much time on my hands searching for Iranian cheerleading statements from 2001. Help yourself.
I haven't got that much time on my hands searching for Iranian cheerleading statements from 2001. Help yourself.
I see nothing wrong there. Iran is merely protecting its own interests like every power does. The Taliban has been enemies with Iran for decades. So why will Iran not be in favour of their downfall? Iran did the right thing by supporting Northern alliance and the current Afghan government over their enemy the Taliban. Every sane country in Iran's position would have done the same thing. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.Today, IRGC is well settled deep within ANA and in Afghan govt.
US, IRGC & RAW are interdependent on each other.
I am talking theoretically like mek(current government would never support mek cause it’s iranian feto but future could) or help create azeri version of pkk but this is irrelevant because won’t happen in real life as i said territorial integrity of iran syria and iraq is national security issue for turkeyThis is a very dumb statement. What separatist groups do you think Turkey can support and how?
In some mind set, whatever Iran is doing is great and fair.I see nothing wrong there. Iran is merely protecting its own interests like every power does. The Taliban has been enemies with Iran for decades. So why will Iran not be in favour of their downfall? Iran did the right thing by supporting Northern alliance and the current Afghan government over their enemy the Taliban. Every sane country in Iran's position would have done the same thing. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
in your mindset how was the situation the time when orders of Afghanistan government came from isi headquarter how your Pakistani mind set rationalized thatIn some mind set, whatever Iran is doing is great and fair.
However, in my Pakistani mind set, it's all wrong, we grew up calling similar value-less tactics from India as foul!
Northern Alliance killed Pashtoons adults, while traded organs of their children, later dumped them in mass graves. If national interest requires to become worst than animal, i reject it.
US, Iran and India have no gains from Afghanistan, but they all are happy with loss of Pakistan and changing Afghan demography.
Iran have oil and population, they could have grown like Saudi Arabia, if they simply had their mind set in positive thinking.
I am talking theoretically like mek(current government would never support mek cause it’s iranian feto but future could) or help create azeri version of pkk but this is irrelevant because won’t happen in real life as i said territorial integrity of iran syria and iraq is national security issue for turkey
We shouldn’t argue about something that will never happen as i said turkey is both friend and rival in different theaters but will never cross red line such as harming territorial integrity of iran I think same could be said for iran regarding turkish territorial integrityAnd how exactly can Turkey help MEK with anything? Azeri version of PKK? Are you serious? Do you think Azeris will side with Turkey against Iran? Have you forgotten that Safavids and Afsharids fought against the ottomans for decades? In Iran, except for with Kurds, national unity comes before religions, sects and ethnic groups. It always has and always will
Erdogan is nothing but a western puppet who can’t do shit.
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani on Saturday called on Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to take united stance against Washington following the killing of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani by a U.S. air strike on Friday.
Describing the killing of Soleimani as a grave mistake, Rouhani during a phone call with Erdoğan said that silence in the face of such aggression would embolden the United States, Sözcü newspaper reported.
"If we do not take a unanimous stance against the U.S.' mistakes, a great danger will threaten our region,” Rouhani said.
"Iran and Turkey have always negotiated on complicated matters,” he added.
According to the Russian news agency RT, Erdoğan expressed his "regret" for the loss of Iranian general Qassem Soleimani on the phone, calling him a “martyr”. He also reportedly said he understood the anger of Iran’s people and leaders. He also reportedly expressed his distaste for external interference, which he said destabilizes the region.
Erdoğan discussed regional developments and bilateral relations in phone calls with his Iranian and Iraqi counterparts on Saturday, state-run Anadolu news agency reported.
Erdoğan’s phone call with Iran's Rouhani and Iraq's Barham Salih arrives after Ankara expressed concern about rising tensions between the United States and Iran following the killing of Soleimani.
The Turkish president on Friday led a security meeting to discuss latest developments in the Middle East, following the U.S. air strike in Baghdad that killed the commander of Iran’s elite Quds Force.
SOURCE: https://ahvalnews.com/turkey-iran/rouhani-calls-erdogan-take-united-stance-against-us-agresssion
You started it by supporting the so called Syrian revels and Muslim brotherhood in the Arab world on the other hand Arabs couldn’t care less about you.We have seen treacherous Iran in 2010
in 2010 only Turkey and Brazil supported Iran for nuclear program against the US and Israel ... but Iran agreed with P5+1 and backstabbed Turkey
the US - Israel attacked Brazil and Turkey to destroy Governments
Iran supported GEZI protest against ERDOGAN in 2013
Iran always supported Pkk terrorists against Turkey
ERDOGAN should be smart not to believe treacherous Iran
btw Iran and Shiite Iraqis welcomed invasion of Iraq by the US and the UK to destroy sunni muslim SADDAM
and Iran with christian Russia destroyed sunni muslim cities in Syria and killed hundreds of thousands of sunni muslim Syrian Arabs
the US ( OBAMA ) gave Iraq to Iran .... Russia gave Syria to Iran
Didn’t the Americans invaded Afghanistan from your country?! Also didn’t the Afghans hate the taliban and wanted them gone or you are against the liberation of the afghan people?!Iran was the first Muslim country cheerleading the invasion of Afghanistan after 9/11. Today, their time has come to pay for that cheerleading mistake.
And most of the so called Turkic rulers were heavily persianized in every aspect of their life just like saying the Germans ruled Russians and British because the romanovs and Windsor’s are Germans which is false because there is nothing German about them except their origins the same with the so called Turkic rulers of India and Iran and Afghanistan.We don't have any problem with you. Pakistan since 1974 and before that, proved herself as a loyal ally. This is it. Now, Ask yourself did your state do anything to help Turkish Interests? No? So we will choose them over you. This not personel, but just the truth.
Turks ruled persians for centuries, persians rules South Azerbaijan, it is just what history is. But yes, we are never gonna be allies, because of your traitor nature. So, you are alone, enjoy it.
Explain it? They saved what?
PS, Do You know that, Qatar is not the Turkish land, and we saved Qatar with Turkish military base?
You didn’t because you yourself have problems with Syrians, Kurds, Armenians and Greeks who want land from you.Normally it should be like you describe but it is not. Let me explain you the problem. There is 30 million Azerbaijani Turks lives in iran, therefore iran sees Turkey and Azerbaijan as a threat. We didn't do anything to hurt them, we didn't do anything to break their country for a new Turkish State. But because of their fear, they are doing everything to hurt us. They are supporting PKK because of this while they are attacking PJAK. Because they believe a strong Turkey is a threat for them.
So be it I am saying. They played a game. Let them see the consequences.