Rolls-Royce Offers Engine for Turkish-Made Fighter Jet

[era_shield]

Not possible with any 5th generation aircraft.

Wow, how did you manage to not even understand that? It's not necessary for any other 5th generation aircraft because they aren't fat and have high drag like the F-35. Are you kidding me now or are you actually this thick?

 

[LegionnairE]

Wow, how did you manage to not even understand that? It's not necessary for any other 5th generation aircraft because they aren't fat and have high drag like the F-35. Are you kidding me now or are you actually this thick?

no, you're the one that's thick

All airforces that flew F16 either carried drop tanks under their wings or used CFTs or both. Fifth generation fighters can't do that so they have to have more fuel internally.

 

[Blue Marlin]

As I've said in my previous posts, you could bomb moscow without aerial refueling with it...

F35C has even longer operational range, that's why I suggested earlier that we should look into it.
But the C variant lacks a gun, TurAF might have a problem with it

Also note that F35A has a 25mm gun as opposed to the 20mm M61 Vulcan on the F16.
It should have a higher velocity but lower rate of fire.

which makes you question do we even need TFX? What sort of role is it going to fill?
other than feeding our national ego of course

5th gen fighters are meant to be seen. so wvraams countermeasures are not really necessary. the f35c is my preferred option of the 3 variants.as it has large controls surfaces(bigger wing) allows for it to make tight maneuvers at lower speeds as compared to the a and b variants. also it has a 200nm increase in range too.

 

[LegionnairE]

5th gen fighters are meant to be seen. so wvraams countermeasures are not really necessary. the f35c is my preferred option of the 3 variants.as it has large controls surfaces(bigger wing) allows for it to make tight maneuvers at lower speeds as compared to the a and b variants. also it has a 200nm increase in range too.

yeah it's really considerable even if you don't have an aircraft carrier...

but the whiny little bitches in here are going to complain about even more drag due to bigger wings
there's no reasoning with these people

 

[Blue Marlin]

yeah it's really considerable even if you don't have an aircraft carrier...

but the whiny little bitches in here are going to complain about even more drag due to bigger wings
there's no reasoning with these people

well i dont think it would be too hard to make the wings fixed, which in turn remove the folding wing mechanism and also the landing gears will not need to be reinforced. so this reduction in weight will make the f35c more efficient in term of fuel efficiency and speed among others factors too. a drag chute is for Norwegian and the Canadian f35s only.

 

[cnleio]

Rolls-Royce Offers Engine for Turkish-Made Fighter Jet

ANKARA, Turkey — Rolls-Royce is offering its EJ200 engine to power the first Turkish-made fighter jet, Turkish officials said.

Procurement sources said the Ankara government and Rolls Royce may be coming near to a deal depending on what the company's solution will entail in terms of production, know-how and export licenses.

Under a program dubbed the TFX ,Turkey wants to design, develop and produce its own fighter jet. Political and procurement officials are aiming for 2023 for its first test flights, the year when Turkey will be celebrating the republic's centennial, although most observers view that target with skepticism.

In October, Rolls-Royce signed a memorandum of understanding with Turkey's state scientific research institute to open an "advanced manufacturing technology center in" Turkey.

Rolls Royce to Open Tech Center in Turkey

The move came shortly after Turkey's procurement authorities met in Britain with Rolls-Royce officials to discuss an engine they want to power the TFX.

Under the MOU, Rolls-Royce will work with the TUBITAK research council and related Turkish ministries: science, energy, transport and defense.



Rolls-Royce invests about £1.2 billion in research and development annually. It operates in more than 50 countries and applies for some 600 patents on new technologies every year.

The EJ200 is a collaborative engine between Rolls-Royce, MTU, Avio and ITP. The consortium established EUROJET Turbo GmbH in the late 1980s. Rolls-Royce said the technology of EJ200 makes it smaller and simpler in layout than current engines of a similar thrust class, while giving it lower fuel consumption and an unprecedented power-to-weight ratio.

The first series production Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft were flown in February 2003. The Typhoon flew operational missions over Libya as part of Operation Ellamy, totaling 6,000 engine hours without a reject.

Rolls-Royce has so far delivered more than 1,100 EJ2000 engines. It has a thrust range from 13,500 lbf dry to 20,000 lbf with reheat.
Rolls-Royce Offers Engine for Turkish-Made Fighter Jet

Don't forget the big buyer - China ! Rolls-Royce

 

[Blue Marlin]

Don't forget the big buyer - China ! Rolls-Royce

ni hao
as much as that would be a good idea, i dont think such a deal would happen. but motor sich (from urkrain) is building a factory in china though. they have mastered afterburner technology. and are working on a 10 tonne thrust class engine which a variant of the ai-222. they make the ai-222-25f for the l-15 trainer

GALLEON, More Than Expected

 

[cnleio]

ni hao
as much as that would be a good idea, i dont think such a deal would happen. but motor sich (from urkrain) is building a factory in china though. they have mastered afterburner technology. and are working on a 10 tonne thrust class engine which a variant of the ai-222. they make the ai-222-25f for the l-15 trainer

GALLEON, More Than Expected

That's for L-15 trainer, i talk the EJ-200 better for J-31 stealth fighter ... anyways i think it's the time for BeiJing to discuess the arms embargo of China with E.U, especially should talk some engine deal with our best friend in West - Britain.

 

[Blue Marlin]

That's for L-15 trainer, i talk the EJ-200 better for J-31 stealth fighter ... anyways i think it's the time for BeiJing to discuess the arms embargo of China with E.U, especially should talk some engine deal with our best friend in West - Britain.

thats the problem the arms embargo. and the ai-222-95f is in the same range of the ej-200. china can buy as much commercial engines as they want, but military grade? thats a different scenario.

 

[xenon54 out]

as you can see, F35 has a crazy amount of fuel for it's size...

Yeah but when it comes to altitude and agility it doesnt come close to F-22, still F-35 are a huge step forward compared to F-16.

 

[Exocet]

Not possible with any 5th generation aircraft.


You don't seem to get it F22s whole production line has been closed. They don't make it anymore. There's no such scenario where F22 complements F35. Very low number of 187 F22s are most likely going to remain in the air national guard and guard the mainland USA...

As for F35 the numbers may change but ultimately it'll be around 2500, the number already fell from 3000


oh shut up, all of the air forces you've cited are buying the F35.

The draggy little flying brick you're trying to picture.

F-22's production is halted but line is not closed. There are some rumors about a F-22C variant that will include technological gains of the JSF program. All F-22's will be upgraded to that variant and some additional aircraft may be produced.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

I am following your discussions for 2 days. It is interesting but nothing than a cock fight.
F-22 and F-35 are total different categories. If you want compare let fight Mayweather vs. Klitchko.
Both are non plus ultra in their category.
You will see what will happen. So easy no more no less.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Don't forget the big buyer - China ! Rolls-Royce

We are already helping/cooperating with our Chinese friends in this field as well bro.

Rolls-Royce wins contract for power, propulsion and deck machinery equipment with Shanghai's Sinopacific Shipbuilding Group

Thursday, 3 December 2015

Rolls-Royce today signed a contract with Sinopacific Shipbuilding Group (Sinopacific) in Shanghai for a package of power and propulsion equipment and deck machinery.

The contract is to equip nine SPA80A Anchor Handling Tug Supply vessels to be designed and built by Sinopacific Shipbuilding Group and owned and operated by the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC) and its wholly-owned subsidiary, ESNAAD.

Each ship will have a bollard pull of 80 metric tonnes, and be equipped with highly efficient Bergen diesel engines, main and tunnel thrusters, electrical power system and a deck machinery package from Rolls-Royce. This represents a suite of reliable and robust technology developed for the most demanding conditions.

JIANG Qiang, Chief Executive Officer of Sinopacific said: “The visit of Rolls-Royce senior executives to Sinopacific in 2013 reinforced the relationship between our two companies as did the provision of Rolls-Royce integrated equipment packages for Sinopacific’s in-house designed SPA150 AHTS series. This was a first for Rolls-Royce in the Chinese market.”

“The Rolls-Royce Chinese team has provided us with great support by staying close, enhancing communications and giving us confidence for future cooperation. Sinopacific aims to work closely with our strategic partners, such as Rolls-Royce, presenting the best products and services for our ship owners while strengthening our leadership in the most demanding markets.”

Richard Wang, Rolls-Royce, Senior Vice President Commercial – Marine said: “This is a significant contract. It demonstrates our market leading capabilities in a wide range of offshore marine products, and our ability to combine them in a way that creates real value for our customers.”

“We look forward to working with and continuing a profitable and long-lasting relationship with Sinopacific.”

The vessels will be built at Sinopacific’s Zhejiang Shipyard and the first vessel is due for delivery in 2017.

Rolls-Royce wins contract for power, propulsion and deck machinery equipment – Rolls-Royce

Its just a start,many more such deals are in the pipeline.
WIN-WIN cooperation as always.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

@mike2000 is back

Mike , but MTU and Renk combination is better. But you are same consortium.

 

[war&peace]

Great going Turkey....