Role of china

[Chinese-Dragon]

Pakistan is helpless due to Pressure of worlds powerful country what china is doing for Pakistan in this situation??? we have not enough money to run our country that is why we have to take the loan from IMF and that is why we have to follow the Instruction of America. Right now Pakistan not only fighting with india strategically but also fighting with America. there are many agents of CIA and RAW by crossing the Afghan border and creating the civil war in Pakistan Province Baluchistan where Gawadar Port is situated. wake up Chinese if Indian and American win this strategic war we will lost the Opportunity of world trading easily.. because they want separate the Baluchistan from Pakistan as they already Published the new Map of Pakistan..

Iran, Venezuela and North Korea all stand up to America. Even though they don't have nuclear weapons. (North Korea got them recently, but were already standing up to America before).

Back in 1950 China was one of the weakest countries in the world. Yet we still attacked the USA + 16 of her allies during the Korean war, and forced them into the longest retreat in the history of US armed forces.

Back then our country was almost completely collapsed, and we didn't even have a proper air force, and we certainly did not have any nuclear weapons either.

So why can't Pakistani leaders just tell America that you are no longer allies?

You don't even need to fight them, just tell them you are no longer allies.

 

[shahbaz baig]

yes......agree.......Pakistani are very innocent .........when they trust any buddy, they completely trust............first USA, and they didn't realized what is gonna to happen in long term and were they are going to land.........and today they are facing and realizing now..........similarly today pak china friendship.............they become so much dependent on china...............for every thing they look at china for support and help.......defense deal i understand ..............because this days no other country is ready to support Pakistan up to great extend except china........................
but for small thing .....like building port,seeking support in rolling mill, buying locomotive that to 3rd class ( you can search on you tube one documentary which is comparison on Indian railway vs Pakistani railway .........how frustrated Pakistani railway is because of chines locomotive is not performing well , there is interview of locomotive driver and railway staff , and in-spite of knowing ,chines dumping bad quality locomotive ,again new order is going to china......... India was build his locomotive plant in 1958 and Pakistan is till seeking help for china)

who know , china is taking undue advantage of Pakistan......................railway is one of the case which is highlighted and today people know.........there may be several other case which is not highlighted and people may not be aware about it.................so pl wake up ........one is already made you fool other is making you......other wise it will too late

better to be believe on yourself rather than always looking for help.........................

if you want to attack on India ......do it ......you are most welcome........but do it on your guts..............

chines ape baap ke hai hai.......tumhare kaya honge (jago pakitan jago)


yes......agree.......Pakistani are very innocent .........when they trust any buddy, they completely trust............first USA, and they didn't realized what is gonna to happen in long term and were they are going to land.........and today they are facing and realizing now..........similarly today pak china friendship.............they become so much dependent on china...............for every thing they look at china for support and help.......defense deal i understand ..............because this days no other country is ready to support Pakistan up to great extend except china........................
but for small thing .....like building port,seeking support in rolling mill, buying locomotive that to 3rd class ( you can search on you tube one documentary which is comparison on Indian railway vs Pakistani railway .........how frustrated Pakistani railway is because of chines locomotive is not performing well , there is interview of locomotive driver and railway staff , and in-spite of knowing ,chines dumping bad quality locomotive ,again new order is going to china......... India was build his locomotive plant in 1958 and Pakistan is till seeking help for china)

who know , china is taking undue advantage of Pakistan......................railway is one of the case which is highlighted and today people know.........there may be several other case which is not highlighted and people may not be aware about it.................so pl wake up ........one is already made you fool other is making you......other wise it will too late

better to be believe on yourself rather than always looking for help.........................

if you want to attack on India ......do it ......you are most welcome........but do it on your guts..............

chines ape baap ke hai hai.......tumhare kaya honge (jago pakitan jago)

you better to see this video, he is neither Pakistani nor Chinese or either not an Indian
search the title on youtube by typing this sentence below
Indian RAW Terrorism and Hemant Kakre_#39;s assassination in

Search by your self because i am not able to post the link yet because of my post count is just 8 until i have 30 post i cant be able to post the link

 

[Yeti]

Iran, Venezuela and North Korea all stand up to America. Even though they don't have nuclear weapons. (North Korea got them recently, but were already standing up to America before).

Back in 1950 China was one of the weakest countries in the world. Yet we still attacked the USA + 16 of her allies during the Korean war, and forced them into the longest retreat in the history of US armed forces.

Back then our country was almost completely collapsed, and we didn't even have a proper air force, and we certainly did not have any nuclear weapons either.

So why can't Pakistani leaders just tell America that you are no longer allies?

You don't even need to fight them, just tell them you are no longer allies.

China going to give them AID and IMF loans instead? lol

China gave Pakistan next to nothing when the floods happened it was pittance and only when US gave over $100 million China gave a little lol

Without the of the US IMF would not have said yes to loans for Pakistan they still hold the cards, what will China offer?

 

[shahbaz baig]

Iran, Venezuela and North Korea all stand up to America. Even though they don't have nuclear weapons. (North Korea got them recently, but were already standing up to America before).

Back in 1950 China was one of the weakest countries in the world. Yet we still attacked the USA + 16 of her allies during the Korean war, and forced them into the longest retreat in the history of US armed forces.

Back then our country was almost completely collapsed, and we didn't even have a proper air force, and we certainly did not have any nuclear weapons either.

So why can't Pakistani leaders just tell America that you are no longer allies?

You don't even need to fight them, just tell them you are no longer allies.

there is always a rigged election in Pakistan because of manual voting system in 21 century. that is why the voice of Pakistani People can be easily shut down. and therefore the choice of people cant be elected. the whole system is pakistan`s control in under traitors or either Non-sense, Non-Visionary Leaders.. Pakistan`s people want to get rid of these kind of situation where even friends dont want to help Pakistan..

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

China going to give them AID and IMF loans instead? lol

China gave Pakistan next to nothing when the floods happened it was pittance and only when US gave over $100 million China gave a little lol

Without the of the US IMF would not have said yes to loans for Pakistan they still hold the cards, what will China offer?

It is not about aid or money.

Getting America out of the region is in Pakistan's best interests, and it is also in our best interests.

Pakistanis themselves should know better than anyone else, how much they have suffered since they were dragged into a war started by America from halfway across the world. How many suicide bombings occurred in the region before 2001? Very few. Now, due to all the instability, there are multiple suicide attacks in the region every single day. Their people are dying to drones and terrorist attacks on a constant basis.

And as long as Pakistani leaders are under American influence, they will never agree to form a defence pact with China. And if there is no defence pact then what can we do?

 

[Yeti]

It is not about aid or money.

Getting America out of the region is in Pakistan's best interests, and it is also in our best interests.

Pakistanis themselves should know better than anyone else, how much they have suffered since they were dragged into a war started by America from halfway across the world. How many suicide bombings occurred in the region before 2001? Very few. Now, due to all the instability, there are multiple suicide attacks in the region every single day. Their people are dying to drones and terrorist attacks on a constant basis.

And as long as Pakistani leaders are under American influence, they will never agree to form a defence pact with China. And if there is no defence pact then what can we do?

Pakistan needs the IMF loans, they are stuck in a cycle because without that money they can not meet their energy demands which it so badly needs to do. Problem is the situation has now changed it is not a simple matter of 'America' leaving the region, now you have a internal militancy issue that of the Pakistani Taliban and the numerous other Punjabi based militants who have gone after the Shias, Sufis, etc pretty much anyone who does not share their Salafi mindset. They have already stated that they wish to implement Shariah law in Pakistan and turn it into another Islamic state like Somalia, these are the same people leading prayers for Bin Ladin and calling him a Shaheed. You can not fix years of Saudi funded salafi madrassa education and what Zia did and blame USA, just see what Pakistani students are taught in their textbooks about Hindus, Christians and other 'kafirs'. This battle is one which only Pakistan can fight and win even when Nato leaves in 2014 the militants will not just go away nor will the fundies.

 

[naveen mishra]

It is not about aid or money.

Getting America out of the region is in Pakistan's best interests, and it is also in our best interests.

Pakistanis themselves should know better than anyone else, how much they have suffered since they were dragged into a war started by America from halfway across the world. How many suicide bombings occurred in the region before 2001? Very few. Now, due to all the instability, there are multiple suicide attacks in the region every single day. Their people are dying to drones and terrorist attacks on a constant basis.

And as long as Pakistani leaders are under American influence, they will never agree to form a defence pact with China. And if there is no defence pact then what can we do?

dear you also need to experience some thing........................ ones you declare that you are not going to support money wise (what ever be you are supporting) than see their reaction

they are totally dependent on donation............till than money is flowing they are happy with you......

 

[chhota bheem]

It is not about aid or money.

Getting America out of the region is in Pakistan's best interests, and it is also in our best interests.

Pakistanis themselves should know better than anyone else, how much they have suffered since they were dragged into a war started by America from halfway across the world. How many suicide bombings occurred in the region before 2001? Very few. Now, due to all the instability, there are multiple suicide attacks in the region every single day. Their people are dying to drones and terrorist attacks on a constant basis.

And as long as Pakistani leaders are under American influence, they will never agree to form a defence pact with China. And if there is no defence pact then what can we do?

Dont blame someone else for the present condition of pakistan,, can we blame china for the condition of NK. And regarding china helping pak ,it will be supplying some weapons and money.no direct involvement.

 

[Fracker]

Pakistan needs the IMF loans, they are stuck in a cycle because without that money they can not meet their energy demands which it so badly needs to do. Problem is the situation has now changed it is not a simple matter of 'America' leaving the region, now you have a internal militancy issue that of the Pakistani Taliban and the numerous other Punjabi based militants who have gone after the Shias, Sufis, etc pretty much anyone who does not share their Salafi mindset. They have already stated that they wish to implement Shariah law in Pakistan and turn it into another Islamic state like Somalia, these are the same people leading prayers for Bin Ladin and calling him a Shaheed. You can not fix years of Saudi funded salafi madrassa education and what Zia did and blame USA, just see what Pakistani students are taught in their textbooks about Hindus, Christians and other 'kafirs'. This battle is one which only Pakistan can fight and win even when Nato leaves in 2014 the militants will not just go away nor will the fundies.

Can You show what Pakistani Students are taught in their textbooks about Hindus, Christians or other kafirs? Nothing I see then "They are Kafir (which means who reject)" then anything else? Which Islamiat text book speak about sects? Which Madrassa speaks about sects? Infact what I done my school education dure Zia'e era, what I found the Quran versus about "Non-Sect", The Quran versus about "For you your religion, and for me mine", the quran versus about "Those Jews & Christians who don't do shirk will be given reward.." all in my education system. Can you share what our education system teaches to think "Wrong" about kafirs or division...

So Stop Spreading BS, when you know nothing about Islam or Pakistani Education System.
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No Fullfledge fight is going to happen, nor Pakistan can afford neither India, and India will never push to Pakistan on the edge since it will be very harmful for them. And new Nuclear Technical Weapons Pakistan is holding, No country will do the foolish decision to send their Army Inside pakistan. but in case of there is, I am not expecting any Physical support from China, but they can put pressure on India from two sides just to withdraw war. And China will do same to Pakistan for going back to LoC positions.

 

[Sniper_Lycan]

China has its own interest in the region .. and they will their own interest only.. nothing else..

 

[Yeti]

Can You show what Pakistani Students are taught in their textbooks about Hindus, Christians or other kafirs? Nothing I see then "They are Kafir (which means who reject)" then anything else? Which Islamiat text book speak about sects? Which Madrassa speaks about sects? Infact what I done my school education dure Zia'e era, what I found the Quran versus about "Non-Sect", The Quran versus about "For you your religion, and for me mine", the quran versus about "Those Jews & Christians who don't do shirk will be given reward.." all in my education system. Can you share what our education system teaches to think "Wrong" about kafirs or division...

So Stop Spreading BS, when you know nothing about Islam or Pakistani Education System.
@Topic

No Fullfledge fight is going to happen, nor Pakistan can afford neither India, and India will never push to Pakistan on the edge since it will be very harmful for them. And new Nuclear Technical Weapons Pakistan is holding, No country will do the foolish decision to send their Army Inside pakistan. but in case of there is, I am not expecting any Physical support from China, but they can put pressure on India from two sides just to withdraw war. And China will do same to Pakistan for going back to LoC positions.

There are numerous threads on the topic on PDF and reports from Pakistani newspapers, why do you not do a google search instead of me doing it all for you?

 

[Fracker]

There are numerous threads on the topic on PDF and reports from Pakistani newspapers, why do you not do a google search instead of me doing it all for you?

Why should I? I practically passed through what you are saying.. and nothing like you mentioned... I am saying it's BS, it's your Job to prove your point. Other admit you were spreading rumor..

 

[Chanakyaa]

If ever there is a war raged between India and Pakistan ... What role China will be playing ...??

The same Role it has played in the past.

 

[Yeti]

Why should I? I practically passed through what you are saying.. and nothing like you mentioned... I am saying it's BS, it's your Job to prove your point. Other admit you were spreading rumor..

How the hell can I be spreading rumours when it was reported in Pakistani newspapers? not to mention other papers

http://tribune.com.pk/story/149448/our-textbooks-and-the-lies-they-teach/


http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2013/0228/Pakistan-textbooks-raise-debate-about-curriculum-of-hate


http://www.kashmirherald.com/main.php?t=OP&st=D&no=131

 

[pkuser2k12]

Don't quote Express tribune a.k.a Garbage Tribune

They are so islamophobic that they even edit parts related to Islam in General Kiyanis speech

They are west and india darbari liberal,secular NGO mafia

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