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Roadmap for 200 LCA ( MK-1, LCA-1P, MK-II) (Update 2)

I am not crying just stating the facts. It is just just HAL's fantasy nothing else. There is no such program exist.

problem I have been observing with you is you never being realistic but always over optimistic.

It's not harmful to be realistic once in a while
you remember we had a conversation last year regarding tejas itself

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just look at this conversation and see how wrong were you.

No I do not remember and you can continue to be a pessimistic.

CLOSE THE DAM THREAD.

THIS PROJECT IS EMBARESSING ..

BY the time IAF has 200 lca PLAAF & PAF will flying unmanned fighters

PAF and PLAAF is already flying alien plane. what else do you need?
 
No I do not remember and you can continue to be a pessimistic.
If you don't remember than you better read your earlier posts

and if being realistic is being pessimistic in your dictionary so be it

Give me a singe authentic link that says that this mk-1A program even exist or IDRW.org is more authentic than ministry of defence
 
If you don't remember than you better read your earlier posts

and if being realistic is being pessimistic in your dictionary so be it

Give me a singe authentic link that says that this mk-1A program even exist or IDRW.org is more authentic than ministry of defence
BC itny pesy india ke LCA per nhi lagy jitan pesa humara PDF bandwidth per lag gya LCA threads per :lol:
 
If you don't remember than you better read your earlier posts

and if being realistic is being pessimistic in your dictionary so be it

Give me a singe authentic link that says that this mk-1A program even exist or IDRW.org is more authentic than ministry of defence

Here it is
HAL Chairman and Managing Director (CMD) T Suvarna Raju told India Strategic in an interview that HAL shared the technology concerns of the user – IAF – as well as the urgency for production of the aircraft in view of the falling numbers of IAF combat squadrons due to obsolescence. The AESA and EW suite will make the new LCA variant more advanced than the supersonic MiG 21s in capability, even though it will be a subsonic aircraft compared to the ageing aircraft of the Soviet vintage.


A key technology being adopted now is 3D printing, which will cut design and production time by months. This is now being used for engines but it is being adopted for various aspects of aircraft design and production.

P in the LCA-I P stands for prototype, but once accepted by IAF, it could be designated LCA-MkI-A or whatever.
..:: India Strategic ::. Top: HAL developing LCA-1P with AESA Radar

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Bangalore. India’s Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas programme has been delayed indeed, but to make up for it, HAL is now working on developing a new variant, LCA-I P, which will be equipped with an advanced AESA Radar and an electro-optic Electronic Warfare (EW) sensor suite.


The new LCA-MkI-P variant with the EW Package will also add some 50 kilos of more weight, but then, Mr Raju explained, the capability of the aircraft increases significantly, offsetting the disadvantage of a smaller engine.

The current LCA-MkI version uses 210 kilos with ballast in the nose to stabilize the aircraft. This will be removed, and the AESA and EW suite weighing about 250 kilos will be added. The net weight gain will be of about 50 kilos.

LCA-MkI and LCA-MkII are both single engine aircraft, hence the power of their engines to provide thrust to the aircraft and sustain their power-guzzling electric and electronic systems, particularly the radar, will always be critical.
 
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BC itny pesy india ke LCA per nhi lagy jitan pesa humara PDF bandwidth per lag gya LCA threads per :lol:

imran bhai there are no shortcuts to success. these are strategic industries or technologies.
No one will present us these techs on a silver platter. We will have to solve the puzzle piece by piece and I am glad we are doing it slowly but steadily. we have solved the space tech puzzle and I am certain we will solve it too. But my countryman has to be patient and be realistic.
 
Roadmap for 200 LCA ( MK-1, LCA-1P, MK-II) (Update 2)
Published August 21, 2015 | By admin
SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK (INN)

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Former Defence Minister AK Antony Speaking at handing over Ceremony of Initial Operational Clearance-II (IOC-II) for ‘Tejas’ earlier last year had declared that 200 Tejas fighters would eventually enter combat service.

IAF with commitment of inducting only two squadrons of the current Tejas Mark I (40), and four squadrons of the improved Tejas Mark II (80) in near future it seemed like that Statement made by then Defence Minister AK Antony was more of a pep talk to encourage IAF to accept more Indigenous aircrafts in its fleet but now it seems there is some merit into that also.

IAF which plans to retire close to 14 combat squadrons consisting of MiG-21 and MiG-27 aircrafts by 2020 is left with slower Induction rate of replacement aircrafts which will only lead to further rapid fall in squadron strength due to retirement and attrition which has forced IAF to seriously consider now possibility of Inducting more than 200 LCA Tejas Type eventually .

Sources close to idrw.org now believe that Indian air force is finally exploring the possibility of eventually operating over 200 LCA aircrafts due to recent debacle over MMRCA tender and delays in procurement of Indo-Russian 5th generation fighter jets, to increase falling numbers at Light fighter category fleet due to retirements of Mig-21s.

IAF has placed orders for 20 IOC-II Certified Tejas MK-1 and 20 FOC Certified Tejas MK-1 and recently IAF also Cleared HAL proposal to develop a new variant dubbed LCA-I P, Which will use current Tejas MK-1 air frame but will be equipped with modern AESA Radar along with electro-optic Electronic Warfare (EW) sensor suite.

HAL plans to field first LCA-I P by 2017 and plans are in place to improve aircraft’s weight by shaving off 800 kilograms and reduce dead weight in the aircraft. HAL also has promised to reduce downtime on the serviceability of the aircraft by making them much more maintenance friendly at the depot level.

LCA-I P will bridge performance deficit found in the MK-1 variant and Powerful MK-II variant which ADE plans to develop by 2019 which eventually enter production by 2022. HAL has argued that due to integration of powerful General Electric F-414INS6 engine in MK-2 aircrafts which will improve performance deficit but since Air-frame which more or less will be same would also lead to higher consumption of fuel and the aircraft which will also get heavier will lead to aircrafts effective range more or less be same as LCA-I P.

HAL already has demanded IAF place orders for 80 LCA-I P but IAF after much-heated debate has asked HAL to prove aircraft first and if performance is found satisfactory is willing to commit order for 20-40 aircrafts if HAL is also able to stick to delivery schedule of MK-1 and effectively use idle Production line to produce LCA-I P aircrafts.

HAL at present has produced only one Series production (SP) aircraft from its current production line and is gearing up to deliver the second aircraft by next month. HAL also has committed to delivering 4 more aircraft by end of FY2015-16 and 8 more aircrafts by FY2016-17, Now IAF has challenged HAL to fast track delivery schedule of MK-1 and produce and deliver 16 aircrafts for FY2017-18 so that it can consider its demands to place orders for Aesa equipped LCA-I P aircrafts.

With all the recent development activities on LCA Project , IAF has clearly indicated that it will commit more than 200 LCA only if Production agency along with other developing agencies can commit to delivery schedule along with capability assurance of the aircrafts which meets Air staff requirements laid out by IAF .
in short it mean MOD has decided or in process of giving mass manufacturing rites of LCA to some private sector enterprises :coffee:
 
Here it is
HAL Chairman and Managing Director (CMD) T Suvarna Raju told India Strategic in an interview that HAL shared the technology concerns of the user – IAF – as well as the urgency for production of the aircraft in view of the falling numbers of IAF combat squadrons due to obsolescence. The AESA and EW suite will make the new LCA variant more advanced than the supersonic MiG 21s in capability, even though it will be a subsonic aircraft compared to the ageing aircraft of the Soviet vintage.


A key technology being adopted now is 3D printing, which will cut design and production time by months. This is now being used for engines but it is being adopted for various aspects of aircraft design and production.

P in the LCA-I P stands for prototype, but once accepted by IAF, it could be designated LCA-MkI-A or whatever.
..:: India Strategic ::. Top: HAL developing LCA-1P with AESA Radar

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Bangalore. India’s Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas programme has been delayed indeed, but to make up for it, HAL is now working on developing a new variant, LCA-I P, which will be equipped with an advanced AESA Radar and an electro-optic Electronic Warfare (EW) sensor suite.

Sirjji

HAL is not ministry of defence. This is what I earlier said it's just HAL's fantasy nothing else.
 
Sirjji

HAL is not ministry of defence. This is what I earlier said it's just HAL's fantasy nothing else.
Sirji the Source i Provided is Direct From the Horse mouth Himself HAL Chairman and Managing Director (CMD) HAL is is an Indian state-owned company . It is governed under the management of the Indian Ministry of Defence. All it Functions are Government controlled These include manufacturing and assembly of aircraft, navigation and related communication equipment and airports operation.

Educate yourself First Before Farting on Forum's
Hindustan Aeronautics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 
imran bhai there are no shortcuts to success. these are strategic industries or technologies.
No one will present us these techs on a silver platter. We will have to solve the puzzle piece by piece and I am glad we are doing it slowly but steadily. we have solved the space tech puzzle and I am certain we will solve it too. But my countryman has to be patient and be realistic.
they will sure its not something impossible but i agree with you hal is giving lollypop years by years passing
 
Sirji the Source i Provided is Direct From the Horse mouth Himself HAL Chairman and Managing Director (CMD) HAL is is an Indian state-owned company . It is governed under the management of the Indian Ministry of Defence. All it Functions are Government controlled These include manufacturing and assembly of aircraft, navigation and related communication equipment and airports operation.

Educate yourself First Before Farting on Forum's
Hindustan Aeronautics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
After all HAL is a company and it has no say in decision making.
Please provide me any link where any MOD official even entertain HAL's fantasy let alone adore it.
Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha said in it's latest interview on the situation of Idle assembly line after the completion of MK-1.
We won't let the assembly lines idle after that. If it is the situation we will order more mk1 standard tejas to keep lines running.

regards
 

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