Reshaping to an efficient transport network

[AndrewJin]

This is the Season One of Find the Most Beautiful Railway.
Live from CNTV
Theme: Hefei-Wuhan semi-High-speed Rail in April

Highlights:
13:30 Wuhan Railway Station, the biggest HSR station in my hometown!!!
(@ahojunk must watch this part, Proudly come from Wuhan! @Chinese Bamboo )
15:00 Aboard the bullet train G678

17:00 Cleaning on the train, once per hour
18:00 Find the seat!
23:00 Preparation before boarding

25:30 Panorama of Wuhan Railway Station
(Proudly come from Wuhan! @Chinese Bamboo)
47:40 drone view of 13km long tunnel

59:50 stop at Macheng
1:06:00 Train G678 passing the first journalist
1:10:00 Train G678 passing the second journalist
1:19:00 Train G678 passing the third journalist

1:22:00 Maintenance at night
1:24:30 Tunnel after tunnel, is it an underground?

1:44:00 interview with passengers on G678, no seat available!
1:57:30 interview with the chief of staff, beautiful
2:24:30 Entering Hefei South Station

Train G678 Wuhan-Shanghai Hongqiao
Stops: Wuhan-Macheng-Hefei-Nanjing-Danyang-Changzhou-Wuxi-Suzhou-Shanghai

Three sections
Wuhan-Hefei: Wuhan-Hefei semi-HSR (200-250km/h)
Hefei-Nanjing: Hefei-Nanjing semi-HSR (200-250km/h)
Nanjing-Shanghai: Beijing-Shanghai HSR (300-350km/h)

Wuhan-Hefei section, 355km, 2 h 5 min (semi-HSR)
Ticket price: 104.5 yuan/2nd class ($15.8)

marked red in Chinese High-speed Railway Network

@ahojunk @TaiShang @cirr @Jlaw @anant_s @Echo_419 @Daniel808 @Mista @waz et al.

 

[cirr]

When will the new 350km/h HSR linking Shanghai and Wuhan be completed? @AndrewJin

 

[AndrewJin]

When will the new 350km/h HSR linking Shanghai and Wuhan be completed? @AndrewJin

Dunno.
F**k them all...
Argued for like 3 years, still not settled.
There is fierce competition for a station...
Especially between Jingzhou and Jingmen.
Probably can start construction around 2018-2019.
The current SEMI-HSR is driving me crazy!
900km to Shanghai need 4-5 hours, what the hell!

 

[HypocriteHunter]

Three sections
Wuhan-Hefei: Wuhan-Hefei semi-HSR (200-250km/h)
Hefei-Nanjing: Hefei-Nanjing semi-HSR (200-250km/h)
Nanjing-Shanghai: Beijing-Shanghai HSR (300-350km/h)

Wuhan-Hefei section, 355km, 2 h 5 min (semi-HSR)
Ticket price: 104.5 yuan/2nd class ($15.8)

Ticket Prices are very low for high speed rail, how is it done? We are trying to build our first high speed network probably with help from China and Japan and our news papers are crowded with so called studies which says it will be costlier than Airplane and here your prices are normal 2AC class prices which is very low!

 

[AndrewJin]

Ticket Prices are very low for high speed rail, how is it done? We are trying to build our first high speed network probably with help from China and Japan and our news papers are crowded with so called studies which says it will be costlier than Airplane and here your prices are normal 2AC class prices which is very low!

I watched a video about an Indian journalist taking Shanghai-Beijing HSR and deliberately shown the ticket of first-class seat, very misleading.
The journey I have mentioned in OP is on semi-HSR, 350km, 2 hours, second class $16.
If it is on a 300-350km/h HSR, 350km, for example from my city to Changsha in the South, 1 h 10-40min, that's $ 24. Remember, second class seats account for at least 80% on any train.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Do China use DMU trains if yes how fast they are and what percentage fo Chinas network they form thanks.

We in Iraq bought some Chinese dmu they are cheaper the the EMU ones I don't know why thou if some one knows share some info thanks.

 

[AndrewJin]

@HypocriteHunter 300-350km/h is of course quite different from 200-250km/h semi-HSR.

What is driver doing?
A video about a bullet train in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region
@cirr
http://www.vccoo.com/v/75ec15

Do China use DMU trains if yes how fast they are and what percentage fo Chinas network they form thanks.

We in Iraq bought some Chinese dmu they are cheaper the the EMU ones I don't know why thou if some one knows share some info thanks.

We have, but very very few.
I only know about Beijing North- Badaling Great Wall DMUs and some DMUs we have used one decade ago.
DMUs that CRRC export to Malaysia are on narrow-gauge track, highest speed 160km/h.
Percentage of DMUs in China is nearly zero.

 

[Malik Alashter]

@HypocriteHunter 300-350km/h is of course quite different from 200-250km/h semi-HSR.

What is driver doing?
A video about a bullet train in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region
http://www.vccoo.com/v/75ec15


We have, but very very few.
I only know about Beijing North- Badaling Great Wall DMUs and some DMUs we have used one decade ago.
DMUs that CRRC export to Malaysia are on narrow-gauge track, highest speed 160km/h.
Percentage of DMUs in China is nearly zero.

Why you think china don't use them like the EMU thanks.

 

[AndrewJin]

Why you think china don't use them like the EMU thanks.

I think the speed potential is not big.
Speeding up/down is not so efficient.
We need 300-350km/h on trunk route to cover Beijing-Shanghai, Beijing-Hong Kong, etc.
And it is far more polluted?


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original video link
http://www.miaopai.com/show/xnEU4a7SZFcCXjYTJz5htw__.htm

@TaiShang @ahojunk @anant_s

 

[GS Zhou]

Why you think china don't use them like the EMU thanks.

DMUs are mainly operated in regional passenger transport on lines with lower passenger volume. That's not the typical situation of the Chinese railway system.

 

[Malik Alashter]

I think the speed potential is not big.
Speeding up/down is not so efficient.
We need 300-350km/h on trunk route to cover Beijing-Shanghai, Beijing-Hong Kong, etc.
And it is far more polluted?


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original video link
http://www.miaopai.com/show/xnEU4a7SZFcCXjYTJz5htw__.htm

@TaiShang @ahojunk @anant_s

is way cheaper than the EMU for sure

yes you right very polluting than the electric one.

 

[AndrewJin]

is way cheaper than the EMU for sure

yes you right very polluting than the electric one.

If people in some regions have no strong desire for high-speed as to save time at the expense of paying more, then why not DMUs? We still have a lot of diesel locomotives, electrification rate is just above 50-60%.

 

[HypocriteHunter]

I watched a video about an Indian journalist taking Shanghai-Beijing HSR and deliberately shown the ticket of first-class seat, very misleading.
The journey I have mentioned in OP is on semi-HSR, 350km, 2 hours, second class $16.
If it is on a 300-350km/h HSR, 350km, for example from my city to Changsha in the South, 1 h 10-40min, that's $ 24. Remember, second class seats account for at least 80% on any train.

Yeah we got many such journos who are hell bent to oppose anything cuz of their masters are out of power after 60 years of rampant corruption. Your fare of 2nd Class is actually cheaper than our normal speed train 2nd class and those journos keep lying blatantly.

Thanks for sharing that info.

 

[AndrewJin]

Yeah we got many such journos who are hell bent to oppose anything cuz of their masters are out of power after 60 years of rampant corruption. Your fare of 2nd Class is actually cheaper than our normal speed train 2nd class and those journos keep lying blatantly.

I am equally confused after reading some reports or news from India.
Very confused.....
It's sometimes not really about journalists themselves but from lobbyists representing the interests of other transport methods. 5 years ago, most Chinese were also very doubtful about HSR. Now, it becomes part of daily life. People are actually fighting for a HSR station.

The modern railway protection movement of China

 

[Malik Alashter]

Yes those Chinese DMU we got have high speed of 160 KM/ph.

But we have a project for hsr for a loop of 120-160 KM that will cost 3.5 billion but I think this one on the shelf now because of the oil price cut.