Report On Indian MMRCA IN CHINESE..

[HongWu]

Even our current MKI is far more advanced compared to China's Su30 and copied J11

Is that what your indian brainwashing tells you? China's Russian import Su-30 dates from the 1990's. We received them many years before india received the MKIs, so they are not as advanced. But our J-11B is far superior to MKI, and we already have several regiments of J-11B! With these alone, China can dominate the skies above New Delhi and level Red Fort.

 

[Yeti]

Deep Modernization for all the Sukhoi Su30 MKI fleet currently but these upgrades will be carried out only on newly built Su-30, which will be last batch of Su-30 to join IAF. This first 40 aircrafts will also get, strengthening of air frame to enable them to carry near 2.5 tonne, Air launched version of Brahmos , Indian air force have already provided two Su-30MKI aircrafts in 2010 to carry out such modification to the airframe and Air launch variant is also ready only integration with airframe is left . Under “Super -30” Project, Su 30MKI will get Russian Phazotron Zhuk-AE Active Electronically Scanned Array AESA radars along with new onboard mission computers, electronic warfare systems and new Russian BVR Missiles rumored to be Novator K-100 missile


Super-30 upgrade together with the Rafale is dream combo

 

[Wet Shirt Contest]

Of course not. We are beyond the MMRCA and are going for 5th generation.

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Huh? For one thing, the Su-30MKK did not even compare to the J-10A.

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Then why did you buy the Rafale? Your Su-30MKIs are twin seaters, which means that air to ground is their primary job. Please realize that the Su-30MKK is not regarded as a high end fighter in the PLAAF.

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What do you think CAC and SAC are? HAL? The J-10Bs, J-15s, J-11Bs outperform the Rafale in many aspects so your logic would be backwards.

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So you are basically sayingIndia is spending money on foreign technology while their own 28-year-old Tejas project is still under development. And yet they are still trying to compete with the country that still defeated you guys with "hit and run tactics". Funny how you don't have anything to show to demonstrate your "power".

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Yes, the people in China are dying to have the freedom of spitting, contracting AIDS, and serving in slums.

*So By Chinese Logic twin Engine Fighters are For A2G Roles ?


*The J-10Bs, J-15s, J-11Bs outperform the Rafale ??


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Above Post clearly Shows Your ZERO Technical Knowledge Mate No Offence

 

[Wet Shirt Contest]

You are so obviously jealous looking at the stealthy underside of the J-20 because you know PAKFA is completely not stealthy from the underside.

Look at all those indians who thank you because they are jealous too!!! And they thought buying Rafale at $100 million US for just the aircraft alone is going to save them from China's superpower dominance.


Awesome! Don't worry about Hu Songshan. He is a little kid who wants to be a mod on this board, so he go around telling people what to post and what not to post. Just ignore him.

Do You Understand The Complexities Of Stealth Design and Aerodynamics ? FYI Troll There is no rule saying you have to have a flat fuselage Like F22 to achieve 'STEALTH' The FLAT fuselage is the simplest way that assures the least chance of any signals coming back. You can have an underside that is anything but flat,,,,,What is important is controlling AND redirecting EM energy

 

[j20blackdragon]

Do You Understand The Complexities Of Stealth Design and Aerodynamics ? FYI Troll There is no rule saying you have to have a flat fuselage Like F22 to achieve 'STEALTH' The FLAT fuselage is the simplest way that assures the least chance of any signals coming back. You can have an underside that is anything but flat,,,,,What is important is controlling AND redirecting EM energy

Anyone with a pair of eyeballs can tell that the PAK FA is a joke.

Once again, here's Bill Sweetman's opinion.

Stealth design features mostly follow Lockheed Martin F-22 and X-35 practice. A high chine line around the forebody continues through the inlets and upper body, and flat, canted side surfaces blend into a flat underside via a small-radius edge. The canopy shape is also reminiscent of the F-22.

Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Advances | AVIATION WEEK

 

[j20blackdragon]

That's right Indians please keep bragging about your mighty 4th generation fighters like the Su-30MKI and Rafale.

 

[Shinigami]

Is that what your indian brainwashing tells you? China's Russian import Su-30 dates from the 1990's. We received them many years before india received the MKIs, so they are not as advanced. But our J-11B is far superior to MKI, and we already have several regiments of J-11B! With these alone, China can dominate the skies above New Delhi and level Red Fort.

j11b far superior to su30MKI?
smoking too much cultural revolution grade opium apparently

this is what excessive nationalism does to you. clouds your judgment and makes you retarded. saying "China can dominate the skies above New Delhi" is like saying "Taiwan can dominate the skies above Biejing" which would make more sense since they are a lot closer to each other

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That's right Indians please keep bragging about your mighty 4th generation fighters like the Su-30MKI and Rafale.

with good reason. they are pretty damn good

 

[j20blackdragon]

I want India to buy as many Rafales as possible.

Don't stop at 126. Buy more.

 

[ARCHON]

I want India to buy as many Rafales as possible.

Don't stop at 126. Buy more.

and u will counter that with this... err.. whats this toy plane????

 

[Skull and Bones]

I want India to buy as many Rafales as possible.

Don't stop at 126. Buy more.

Current tally is at 189 (126+ optional 63).

 

[pzkilo]

Atleast we have a democracy unlike the militry dictatorship you live in.
The people of india are free and the people of china are oppressed.

What can i say? hahahahahaha brainwashed

 

[Skull and Bones]

What can i say? hahahahahaha brainwashed

Enjoying the Democracy is Australia, mate!

You got that Brisbane spelling wrong in your location. Its not Birsbane, its Brisbane.

 

[crimemaster_gogo]

I want India to buy as many Rafales as possible.

Don't stop at 126. Buy more.

^ concept

^ just a photoshop work which looks cool to eyes.

 

[ptldM3]

Low observability, radar, thrust to weight ratio, speed, service ceiling, WVR, although the Rafale might have more automation in EW.

You don’t even know the RCS figures for J-10, you are just making stories up. As for radar, what radar does the J-10B use again? Oh that is right you haven’t got a clue…wait for it …wait for it…’reliable sources claimed’ right?. And stop throwing vague acronyms such as WVR around which stands for--- within visual range. What does that even supposed to mean? Better HMC, quicker role rate?

It’s clear that you are just throwing around vague terms to look smart.

Low observability and versatility

The JF-17 may have a smaller RCS but is nowhere near versatile. It is one of the furthest things from versatile. Short range, small payload, mediocre performance and poor strike capability. The MKI on the other hand is a very long range aircraft able to carry heavy payloads and still maintain super maneuverability. Not to mention the MKI has a weapons systems operator that increases battlefield survivability as well insures greater accuracy on strike missions. On endurance missions the pilots can also relax by alternating flight responsibilities and the SU-30’s can refuel in mid air.

So explain to everyone how the JF-17 is more versatile again?

As for MKI, it has two huge glaring weaknesses: excessive weight (not agile) and early 80's Soviet-era avionics / cockpit. In both these factors, JF-17 blows it out of the sky. In a war, 1 MKI is not much better than 1 JF-17 and 2 JF-17 is easily superior to 1 MKI.

You have to be kidding. The SU-30 have a combination of TVC and canards. As well as good T/W ratio; not to mention the Flanker airframe broke over 40 world records. The SU-30 is capable of 10G turns. The JF-17 is out of its league.

As for avionics in the SU-30, firstly it can not have ‘early 80’s avionics’ because the SU-30 was created in the 1990’s. Secondly, the SU-30mki cockpit is a mix of French and Israeli systems. So the joke is on you.

And the JF-17's is very limited to its small random and extremely small radar.

Anyone with a pair of eyeballs can tell that the PAK FA is a joke.

Once again, here's Bill Sweetman's opinion.

Anyone with a pair of eyes can see that you are a joke and Sweetman is a magazine editor, try pulling up some academic sources and then talk.

I suspect that you hardly know English let alone anything about ‘stealth’ the only thing you are capable of doing is posting some bogus sources that you yourself do not understand, nor would you be able to explain your sources or how they apply.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Which Chinese aircraft in the 80s sported this kind of cockpit?

Sukhoi 30 MKI

Chinese Sukhoi-30 MK2 cockpit.