Report On Indian MMRCA IN CHINESE..

[Anish1]

For all the Indian jokes and chest thumping about china, they had the chance to show their ability against china but they got a pants down spanking in 1962. They were humiliated. To this day it still stings India. They have this absurd theory just because they have a similar population to china that somehow they can compare themselves to china in ability in anything in economics, military, politics, technology, sports, etc. if population size was the deciding factor then indonesia would be challenging America.

The FACT is china and Chinese civilization have been far ahead of India in development and importance in world affairs for thousands of years. As much as India progresses, china is always well ahead. That's the greatness of Chinese culture, the desire and drive we have to get better and stay ahead.

That's why when we started economic reforms, India wanted to follow china.

India's competition will always be Pakistan.

In 1962, India got a serious lesson by PLA, the Chinese military made mince meat out of the Indian military.
Indians have been living with that shock and humiliation ever since, they have been keeping that bottled up inside them silently.
What bothers India even more is that India is barely ever mentioned as a future superpower in the western media while china gets all the attention even though India has a similar population. That's not good for the Indian ego.

Indians will have to suck it up and learn to live with it.

Atleast we have a democracy unlike the militry dictatorship you live in.
The people of india are free and the people of china are oppressed.

 

[notsuperstitious]

62 Painking, is that the translation? If so its even dumber that we thought!

 

[tanlixiang28776]

What I find funny is that not a single Chinese person commented on this thread until Indians filled the entire first page with there standard jingoistic dribble.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Lin Yutang (1895-1976) author of The Wisdom of China and India:

"Never before had China seen a religion so rich in imagery, so beautiful and captivating in ritualism and so bold in cosmological and metaphysical speculations. Like a poor beggar suddenly halting before a magnificent storehouse of precious stones of dazzling brilliancy and splendor, China was overwhelmed, baffled and overjoyed. She begged and borrowed freely from this munificent giver. The first borrowings were chiefly from the religious life of India, in which China's indebtedness to India can never be fully told."

Hu Shih, (1891-1962), Chinese philosopher in Republican China. He was ambassador to the U.S. (1938-42) and chancellor of Peking University (1946-48).

"India conquered and dominated China culturally for two thousand years without ever having to send a single soldier across her border."

Lin Yutang (1895-1976) author of The Wisdom of China and India:

"India was China's teacher in religion and imaginative literature, and the world's teacher in trignometry, quandratic equations, grammar, phonetics, Arabian Nights, animal fables, chess, as well as in philosophy, and that she inspired Boccaccio, Goethe, Herder, Schopenhauer, Emerson, and probably also old Aesop."

Amaury de Reincourt (1918 - ) was born in Orleans, France. He received his B.A. from the Sorbonne and his M.A. from the University of Algiers. He is author of several books including The American empire and The Soul of India, he wrote: " The Chinese travelers' description of life in India... reveals great admiration from all concerned for the remarkable civilization displayed under their eyes."

"India sent missionaries, China sending back pilgrims. It is a striking fact that in all relations between the two civilizations, the Chinese were always the recipient and the Indian the donor." "Indian influence prevailed over the Chinese, and for evident reasons: an undoubted cultural superiority owing to much greater philosophic and religious insight, and also to a far more flexible script."

(source: The Soul of India – by Amaury de Riencourt p 141 and 161).


And you talk about your history and barbarian civilization being superior to that of those who donated you your civilization.

damn... that cultural revolution and the complete whitewashing of history and fact sure has messed up the Han chinese brain.

Man if you base a country's entire history on the opinion of a single diplomat then you have got to be messed up in the brain. But that's not surprising considering how the Hindu brain is fed nothing but what they want to hear from their media non stop.

I mean despite being told by every relevant current country, and person that India is nothing compared to China you would rather listen to a irrelevant dead diplomat. Truly telling of the Indian mindset wouldn't you say?

 

[Sasquatch]

Really nothing much to report.

 

[Speeder 2]

CAN ANY 1 PLEASE TRANSLATE THIS....??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF6sAEBkzBQ

Both clips reconfirmed what most, if not all, Chinese PDFers view. The following is more or less what they mainly said ( I may have missed some, other Chinese guys can chip in here any time):


J-10B info are still not known thus can not do a comparsion with Rafale. With mono-engine, J-10A's electronics are about half a gen less than those of Rafale. Both areas, engine and avionics, are less powerful than the latter.

However, as omnirole, Rafale's A2A capability is at the similar level as J-10A. When 2016-2018 ( or even after 2020, the earliest when 126 Rafale could form an effective combate force) comes, J-10 would have already developed further block/s to match the cpabilities of Rafale, J-20 aside...

More importantly, what matters is not an individual weapon, but a whole system, where India obviously can't match...

Moreover, Rafale was designed and implemented according to France's strategic/tactical environment and its overall capabilities, which are very different from India's. To what extent India could capitalise that remains to be seen...

Look back at the history, India's major weapon imports have been marred with corruption and operational inefficiencies stemming from what it seemed to be fantastic exterior appearance to what they actually could do with it. The experts also foresaw the kick-back scandles coming out of it very soon...

The clips then took a look at India's recent history of major weapon-import, called "The Fool's Classics" :

Arjunk tank (one of the classics, nicknamed "an exhibition tank".)... the price hikes of Russian modified carrier...of the subs, C-130 from the US, Su-30 MKI( VS. Su-30 that China imported, showed Indian's inferior understanding and the much less degree of maturity, etc.)... all these according to the panelists are "India fool's classic"...

Furthermore, they generalised that one could build itself into a "large country" ( they even didn't consider India close a great power, let alone super one), but one can't buy itself into a "large country" like India does, because it doesn't work that way. They said that India always hope to be able to buy the core techs such as 80% of India's import depend on Russia across all fields, the rest on France, etc....yet even Indian could manage launch missiles and satelites, the core tech of which are still in the hands of the Western Powers (including Russia), not India's.

They opinioned that India's key problem is its unrealisticly over-blown ambition which is unable to be matched with its R&D capabilities. This enables int'l vendors to have almost always managed to exploit India in prices and acutal qualities even in so called TOTs... hence the remaining deal and significance of Rafale is still wide open, if not already diluted according to the past expericences...

In the end for one is to buy weapons yet for the other is to R&D its own, all of them therefore agreed that China's defence R&D is way ahead of that of India's. Buying weapons like India does ensures that it would always be 0.5 to 1 gen behind the big boys like China. China's comparison is of course not India who is drastically overestimating itself, they reckoned, and whatever india buys is almost irrelevent to China and China's pace of R&D.

 

[Splurgenxs]

IS tht Hong Wus Uncle?

 

[Sasquatch]

ow i can give you many many more western and chinese historians that freely acknowledge the chinese debt to India.

the lists are very long my friend.

Why would we give a rats about what india did ? we owe no debt to India.

 

[Sasquatch]

lol, yes you are right... Mao and your cultural revolution took care of all the debts lol

forgot that!

Yes forget it we owe noting.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

lol, yes you are right... Mao and your cultural revolution took care of all the debts lol

forgot that!

If Indians truly think they hold any kind of cultural rights over China's massive dominance in the world they are sadly mistaken. Buddhism the only tangible contibution was vastly changed in the East and was and still is a minor religion in China

 

[Sasquatch]

Think everything's already been discussed speeder already translated.

 

[Peregrine]

Now that indians are going to acquire Rafale, it has become worlds best fighter jet & the wish is father to the thought.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Indu=India?

Its Yindu actually!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

This video looks like war already started very intense

 

[Skull and Bones]

Now that indians are going to acquire Rafale, it has become worlds best fighter jet & the wish is father to the thought.

No, on the contrary, even if we buy F-22s, it'll be termed as a failure b'coz evil baniyas bought it.