Report On Indian MMRCA IN CHINESE..

[tanlixiang28776]

i said more mature..read again..dont blame me for ur poor english

More mature? They were flown one year apart and have planned induction of a year apart. They would both have complete systems by then and by the time India start receiving them after Russia China would have far more than India in the early years and far more later on. How does your logic work again?

 

[April.lyrics]

oh,new question.can Rafale take russian missiles?

 

[KRAIT]

I am not sure why some people are comparing the Tejas to the Rafale

It is not positioned to benchmark the Rafale or anything. It is a light combat plane, and such planes can be useful.

The IAF and IN already ordered a bunch of them.

Not to mention inducted 5 Limited Serial Production aircrafts...

 

[beggingwalker]

oh,new question.can Rafale take russian missiles?

meteor,mica but dont know about russian.i think it can carry brahmos..

 

[rcrmj]

Reality means nothing to delusional Indian, WS-10 is already in service yet they still believe is fake, lol...if that's really fake your western masters will bash it with novelty lengthy reports.

I guess primitive Indian still believe China is still at their level, whereas it's like china is at least 25 years ahead of india in aviation industry if to be conservative.

 

[wind]

You should have marked the word Purchasing in bold

Are Indians here seriously bragging about purchasing a 4th generation fighter from France?

Are you people serious?

 

[Aramsogo]

I am not sure why some people are comparing the Tejas to the Rafale

It is not positioned to benchmark the Rafale or anything. It is a light combat plane, and such planes can be useful.

The IAF and IN already ordered a bunch of them.

This logic is flawed. If India could actually build a 4th gen fighter, it would not need to buy another foreign made 4th gen jet. It would just design & build another one.
You don't see China, USA or Russia doing that. Do you??
The Rafale spin is just cover for Indian failure. What else is new?

 

[S10]

How many time we need to tell you COPY is not DEVELOPMENT , COPY take 5 sec and Development takes time..... OK, next time you come up with something , First identify form where you copy that thing

Do tell where you think we "copied" from. And you're right, your Mirage 2000 copy is not development. Even then you failed at that.

Moreover you know China wants Israeli things , but Israeli denied , why u think china want Isreali ACWAS when they can develop its own?

Chinease , IF you provide us we don't built ourself and if you don't we can built it we have technology.... (ACWAS case) sometimes you copying trick make everyone laugh when you say we made it

It's called self-sufficiency in defence, something Indians have no concept of. You purchase parts from all over the world and slap on a paint job to call it your own. By the way, the Phalcon deal was back in 2002, and you're about 10 years behind.

 

[S10]

What makes us sleep at night is knowing that the armed forces are not for pushover products, mig-21 became what they are just because LCA was not ready.. At least the data in public domain is credible rather than what is present for Chinese fighters. If anyone in Chinese air force says that their plane is inferior and the report becomes public, will he survive to see the sun rise again? I think that fact that Indians know their armed forces do not induct crappy stuff and no one can push over unproven systems on them is what makes the Indian sleep at night..

Bofor and Hawala scandal ring a bell for you? Your argument essentially boils down to "We don't know about China, therefore they must have problems." It's a logical error called argument from ignorance. Well I guess you Indians aren't any good at that either.

China is ahead of you in all areas, and will continue to increase that gap while you purchase some foreign equipment to make yourself feel better.

 

[Zabaniyah]

This logic is flawed. If India could actually build a 4th gen fighter, it would not need to buy another foreign made 4th gen jet. It would just design & build another one.
You don't see China, USA or Russia doing that. Do you??
The Rafale spin is just cover for Indian failure. What else is new?

The Tejas is more of a low cost plane. That's how it was planned to be. It doesn't necessarily have the best features of any 4th generation plane. It's a start. And frankly, it is far too early to conclude anything solid. And obviously, they didn't develop the whole thing all by themselves in-house.

The Rafale deal would certainly give them advantages, including ToT and know-how along with that.

And China still use a healthy number of Russian-made SU-30s. It's not industrialized enough to be in the same position as the US and Russia. But, it appears to increasingly likely that China would get into that stage at some point in the not too distant future.

It is an undeniable fact that China is far ahead in terms of technology and self-sufficiency compared to India. The latter will always count on foreign help for their programs for a long time to come.

 

[Storm Force]

Lets not pretend. IN HERE

China is a head of india in self suifficiency by a factor of 5 to 1 AND by at least 10 probably 15 years IN TECHNOLOGY ...

IT OUTSPENDS INDIA BY about 3-1 OVERALL having a GDP of of 3.5 x the size.

BUT

RAFALE will bring a level of tech that is unmatched even in china as of yet. ie RBE2 AESA meterore BVR and sepectra EW suites..

IT certainly nothing to be scoffed at.

Add THE ISRAELI INDO equation and RUSSIAN PAK FA programme and india will learn PLENTY over the next 20 years...

CHINA is a head no doubt but israel russian & french tech will keep india in the MIX as will india,d 8% growing GDP

 

[marshall]

First, the oxide canopy coatings are not for absorption, they are conductive.

^^^

Conductive coating will reflect even more, moron.

The conductive coating is applied to a canopy on a LO stealth airframe, not a flat wall facing the radar source. LOL This prevents radar doesn't enter the cockpit to potentially return in unpredictable fashion to the radar source. Remaining EM will mostly travel along the canopy away from the radar source.

 

[SamantK]

Bofor and Hawala scandal ring a bell for you? Your argument essentially boils down to "We don't know about China, therefore they must have problems." It's a logical error called argument from ignorance. Well I guess you Indians aren't any good at that either.

China is ahead of you in all areas, and will continue to increase that gap while you purchase some foreign equipment to make yourself feel better.

You miss the point and do what you do best, India bashing.. All I said was that our armed forces do not induct unproven systems and there is proof of that. Also, I never said Chinese are not ahead of us, we are working on our shortcoming... However, we sure have some excellent equipment, so what if we had to buy them? We want a considerable deterring force for the likes of Aggessive China, and we are good on that and are progressing steadily.

Now, if u want to say India is nothin in front of china then dream on... The LCA project though long delayed is a good plane and it has given us much to learn. So, what were u saying?

 

[SamantK]

Self delete..

 

[Aramsogo]

The Tejas is more of a low cost plane. That's how it was planned to be. It doesn't necessarily have the best features of any 4th generation plane. It's a start. And frankly, it is far too early to conclude anything solid. And obviously, they didn't develop the whole thing all by themselves in-house.

The Rafale deal would certainly give them advantages, including ToT and know-how along with that.

And China still use a healthy number of Russian-made SU-30s. It's not industrialized enough to be in the same position as the US and Russia. But, it appears to increasingly likely that China would get into that stage at some point in the not too distant future.

It is an undeniable fact that China is far ahead in terms of technology and self-sufficiency compared to India. The latter will always count on foreign help for their programs for a long time to come.

The Tejas is a complete failure. If it was a success, they would have built the follow-up plane and not purchased an expensive foreign fighter like:

F-22 => F-35
J-10 => J-20
Seawolf => Virginia
Su-30 => T-50

Also ToT is a big joke for India. Name one that worked.