Replacement for Turkish m113 Fleet Discussion

[SipahSalar]

I think M113 still has a lot to offer. But if you absolutely need a new APC make sure its a Tracked vehicle.

 

[masud]

My choice...........
1. puma

2. this VN series Infantry Fighting Vehicle

 

[Zarvan]

As you all know that Turkey is operating over 3.000 Units of m113 APC that are already aged.

It´s time to dicuss which is the best Replacment for the Future.


As The Candidates we have today an Tulpar from Otokar Company and maybe FNSS will show us an new Version of his Kaplan (Stretched Version) like Tulpar for carrying troops.

There is too an 3rd option that maybe Turkish Army don´t accept the Products and maybe there will come an new Product.

Pakistan also operates M113 and we should replace them and Turkey and Pakistan can corporate in this area @Horus

 

[xxxKULxxx]

Tulpar is only longer and carries more Soldiers. From Kaplan is there only an mock-up.

Where had a version of m113 who replaces the Role from Kaplan is provided ?

I think both can possibly be acquired. Otokar Tulpar seems fit for the IFV role and Kaplan/ACV-S can be mass-produced for the APC role. Truthfully i dont really like Kaplan. Its just to small and aside from the fact it doesnt really bring anything new to the table, it looks like a half-assed Pars/M113 mix.

 

[-------]

M113 fleet has been modernized in 1995>.. They aren't decrepit and manky as some of you think..

 

[xxxKULxxx]

M113 fleet has been modernized in 1995>.. They aren't decrepit and manky as some of you think..

I don't say replace M113s... If there is no need i'm ok too for sure... But i say if they will be replaced, FNSS should make new things, they should add new things...

 

[-------]

I don't say replace M113s... If there is no need i'm ok too for sure... But i say if they will be replaced, FNSS should make new things, they should add new things...

The only differences between UAE modernized M113 and Turkey's 1995 modernization is the additional armor and A/C unit. Tracks, engine, transmission and trim vane have all been replaced, external fuel tanks added for greater range.

 

[Hakan]

M113's are fine,if you get involved in a large war you need a huge number of armored vehicles and the M113 can provide you with that. They are not good for COIN so thats why you buy some 6x6 or 8x8 vehicles to carry alot of troops safely.

The tulpar doesn't replace the m113 because it is in a different category. 500 or so can be aqcuired to supplement the 3000 m113's (maybe put many in storage) and the 2000 acv series of vehicles, get 1000 6X6 or 8x8 and your good to go regarding larger armored vehicles.

 

[Bismarck]

The 10 best infantry fighting vehicles
20 February 2014

The 10 best infantry fighting vehicles - Army Technology

 

[BordoEnes]

M113 fleet has been modernized in 1995>.. They aren't decrepit and manky as some of you think..

Not neccesarely saying that the M113 is absolute, on the other hand i think they are still very usefull. But even these must eventually be replaced. Almost all relativly modern countries with M113 in their inventory already have plans on replacing them.

The 10 best infantry fighting vehicles
20 February 2014

The 10 best infantry fighting vehicles - Army Technology

Great to read that our Otokar Tulpar made it into the list, but it still has to prove itself on the battlefield obviously.

 

[xenon54 out]

My choice...........
1. puma

2. this VN series Infantry Fighting Vehicle

Why should we go for foreign stuff if we have multiple domestic systems to replace old stuff?

 

[madmusti]

Request Rejected

 

[CekilinBenDoktorum]

M113 fleet has been modernized in 1995>.. They aren't decrepit and manky as some of you think..

Good to see some sane People here.

M113 was modernized and will be tracked APC for the next 20 years.

Turkey does not Need IFV at this Moment. Turkish army is fighting insurgency in asimetric warfare.

We Need wheeled MRAP of all Kind. And ALTAY tank for balistic protection against RPG7 from pkk terrorists.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

M113's are fine,if you get involved in a large war you need a huge number of armored vehicles and the M113 can provide you with that. They are not good for COIN so thats why you buy some 6x6 or 8x8 vehicles to carry alot of troops safely.

The tulpar doesn't replace the m113 because it is in a different category. 500 or so can be aqcuired to supplement the 3000 m113's (maybe put many in storage) and the 2000 acv series of vehicles, get 1000 6X6 or 8x8 and your good to go regarding larger armored vehicles.

Maybe the Israeli findings in the last Gaza War is worth considering.

Soldiers refuse to board obsolete, unprotected APC | The Times of Israel

 

[masud]

Why should we go for foreign stuff if we have multiple domestic systems to replace old stuff?

when i post it, that time you didi not have that type of staff or i was not aware of. but now you develop some very good staff. the question is will you start mass production it or not?