Refuting Aatish Taseer

[Rafi]

Again, attack the messenger instead of the article. AFAIK, in the article Mr Aatish Taseer posted very valid points, the same points raised by many analysts anywhere else. So how does his being a 'bastard child' or whats conceived to be a spelling mistake or presumed to be a paternal rejection influences the credibility of points raised in the article?

Goes to motive.....ie his father rejected him - his father is Pakistani - ergo he blames his father's country for the break up of his parents relationship, but IMO Mr Taseer who had many female "friends", had his fill.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

In 1947 it was in fact India that first resorted to 'non-state actors' in supporting the rebels in Junagadh,

Need sources on this ,for the forum readers.

whose ruler had legally and officially acceded to Pakistan, a little before Pakistanis rebels engaged the Maharajah in J&K.

Pakistan's acceptance of Jungadh was contradictory to this 2-nation theory, also if its about legal & official acceding then even Kashmir ruler legally joined India

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Need sources on this ,for the forum readers.

Search the forum for Junagadh - its been provided dozens of times on dozens of threads.

Pakistan's acceptance of Jungadh was contradictory to this 2-nation theory, also if its about legal & official acceding then even Kashmir ruler legally joined India

That argument is irrelevant to the legality of the accession, and the ruler of J&K had in fact not acceded to India when a local revolt against his rule broke out, which he suppressed brutally, and Tribal fighters from Pakistan entered the State. But the larger point is that India supported 'non-state actors' in territory that was legally a part of Pakistan, and then invaded and occupied that territory and annexed it. I am not arguing about the similarity, or not, to J&K, merely highlighting an example of Indian aggression against Pakistan.

 

[T-Faz]

Will Cuppy, American humorist and literary critic, was said to read some 25 volumes of history on average before penning his humorous sketches of historical figures contained in the delightful volume The Decline and Fall of Practically Everybody. That was then. Now we base our analysis of an entire country on a tweet.

I stated the same thing earlier when the article was posted.

As for the article, its odd that Taseer's "hate" for India is encapsulated and represented by a single tweet.

I think this guy is just looking for some cheap publicity by venting out his anger at his absent father publicly.

The article too was full of holes.

 

[S.M.R]

I stated the same thing earlier when the article was posted.



I think this guy is just looking for some cheap publicity by venting out his anger at his absent father publicly.

The article too was full of holes.

I am seriously missing Salman Taseer himself. Is Aatish ko woh hi bujha saktay thay.

 

[Dance]

He's just one of the many Indians who think they are "experts" on Pakistan but in reality are quite the opposite and they wind up coming off as being extremely obnoxious.

 

[DkBose]

He's just one of the many Indians who think they are "experts" on Pakistan but in reality are quite the opposite and they wind up coming off as being extremely obnoxious.

like indians live in pakistan and roam freely there on streets

 

[Dance]

like indians live in pakistan and roam freely there on streets

When did I say indians roam around the streets in Pakistan?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

nipped it in the bud perfectly!

i really would love to see the illegitimate child come up with a reply to this.......the one who couldnt even spell his father's name properly

 

[DkBose]

When did I say indians roam around the streets in Pakistan?

you mentioned,he is one of like indians who are expert about paksitan.
i meant to say,he is paksitani citizen and knows his country like you know unlike us.

 

[Dance]

you mentioned,he is one of like indians who are expert about paksitan.
i meant to say,he is paksitani citizen and knows his country like you know unlike us.

Aatish Taseer is INDIAN not Pakistani.

The only Pakistani thing about him was his father, who did not even have any relations with him.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Aatish Taseer is INDIAN not Pakistani.

The only Pakistani thing about him was his father, who did not even have any relations with him.

his father never even acknowledged him....he was an illegitimate child.....an ''accident''


there is nothing at all Pakistani about him.....i'm surprised he was even allowed to visit the country

 

[newdelhinsa]

Junagadh excuse has never gone to Pakistani advantage but Pakistanis can claim it as been debunked, no single Indian i meet felt 'given to Pakistan'.

1971 was imposed on India because Pakistani refugees were flooding our gates, because of oppression by PA of East Pakistanis. PA was well resourced to contain those refuges within east Pakistan borders if they could have felt humanly about them. They were pushed like cattle into India. No refugee no war, no rocket science, refugee crisis is a typical not atypical reason be pushed into war, ask a sane military professional if there is any. Furthermore India wasn't paid to harbour East Pakistanis like Pakistan was by USA when sheltering Afghans.

India trained Mukti Bahini who were nothing but bunch of stick guerrillas against fully equipped Pakistani soldiers and they were still not able to deter the oppression until unless the InA entered Dhaka. The training of Mukti Bhani seems pretty Pathetic to me. May be the exaggeration is justifiable but revealing the state of mind and guilt of wrong doings because the whole army surrendered to a company of Indian soldiers in Dhaka.

Also the refuter of Atish had a blind eye on 20-30 years of Pakistan sponsor terrorism against India in J&K and other parts of the country, which makes him stand correct that Pakistanis hate India and its costing them the whole nation its self.

As far as spellings are concerned then its a failure of his father that he wasn't able to teach him his correct spellings; if that is the case with his spellings. I remember same Pakistanis (professionals) ranting and making faulty generalizations about Indians on a different thread when an Indian army personnel disowned a Afghan women. The Salman Taseer qualifies for the same titles and Atish the crocodile tears Pakistanis were shedding for, the soldier and Afghan women respectively. Because the person they are defending disowned his own son who wasn't able to write his name properly after his death. Taseer's tweets, to whom he remained true or untrue in his personal life and bigotry reveal plenty about his upbringing and his society, by the same logic of that thread i am referring to. Isn't?

 

[manojb]

excellent article by aatish taseer! today its second article by pakistani , other was about kashmir. and there are many thinkers and columnist in last few months (after abottabad incident) slowly and surely level headed pakistanis are realising the truth.
i pity stupid people who attack him as bastard. if at all it was mistake of his parents!

 

[manojb]

Spelling your own father's name incorrectly would certainly indicate a lack of familiarity with the man, which makes Aatish's attempts at 'interpreting his father's views' rather suspect.

How well did he really know his father?

seriously.. you too? i thought you are thoughtful preson .. you also came to level of others who pick on spelling mistake .. !!?? Non-anglo names can be spelled in many ways. Sigh