Reflection of The Humanity, Over 600 bodies found at Indigenous school in Canada

[Hamartia Antidote]

what's this? you can find any person doing well. You have to look the big picture, the percentages

give you a hint, just drive 30 miles north, look in the Baltimore city getto

That's exactly what he is saying about the smiling happy people in the Xinjiang videos. It doesn't represent the big picture of the real people away from the cameras.

Isn't it strange there isn't 1000's of videos of people driving around Xinjiang.
Why are we reliant on a video short released here and there?

How come there are no videos of somebody driving around for an hour with a dashcam? You don't think that is odd?

Is China THAT poor? You'd think thousands of angry Chinese citizens would be jumping in their cars to gather hours of footage to refute the "lying West"...but they don't.

After YEARS of refuting how tough is it to simply get 10 people to do something like this?

I can do a search for "driving in beijing", "driving in shenzhen", "driving in shanghai", but maybe 1 hit for "driving in Xinjiang". Really?

We probably have more footage from the Mars rovers.

Lol bring these stuff more and more to me troll, i am not saying west did nothing, but yu're not innocent either, you're trying to change Uyghurs religion, you can't impose you law forcefully on your People, especially religious laws

It's quite obvious they are hiding things. It's ridiculous.

If the outside world was claiming the US is rounding up the native Hawaiians and putting them in camps don't you think 500+ people would be swarming the streets with their cameras on 24/7 showing the live story from the ground?

Keeping that in mind don't don't you find relying on videos like this for info completely absurd??

A western actually visited Xinjiang, interviewed locals, talks about west fake 'genocide' story

Hey thanks for all your talk to clear things up.

 

[khansaheeb]

Yeah, us Canadians like to take accountability, which is why Canada educates its children about the horrors of the residential schools, and has multiple museums dedicated to the terrible things done to the aboriginal peoples. It's a damn shame though that the catholic church still refuses to apologize for its disgusting and evil practices against these innocent kids.

Having said all that, we both know why you posted this. It's not gonna distract from what China is doing, and it's refusal to acknowledge its wrongs. I take solace in the fact that a eventually, even China will have to face what it has done, and that future generations in China will look at this period of China in absolute shame.

Only the usual suspects will fall for your attempts to distract. Many of them will jump on my comment and call me all kids of things, and use whataboutism arguments, just you watch.

Why are the natives called "aboriginal peoples ", what a racist and degrading terminology. The white colonialists in Canada should be called aboriginal peoples. Another I can't understand is why African descendant people accept to being called black people. They are different shades of brown.

 

[beijingwalker]

All land is stolen one way or another in the past, if everyone had to move back to their ancestors point of origin that would create way too much instability around the world considering how much intermingling has been going on. You are holding the son accountable for the sins of the father here, which would be akin to me holding you accountable for the sins of Kublai or Mao.

What would you say to mixed race children of first nations people? What would you say to families who have fostered and adopted first nations orphans, myself included?

Your solution to the problem is impractical, divisive and simply not going to happen. The right way forward is the harsh and hard truth and the even harder path of reconciliation.

You are saying there is no justice at all in the world, as long as you killed off (genocice) all of them, there's no way they can come back asking for justice, the reason why Hilter failed and US succeeded is because US killed almost all of the first nation while Hilter didn't.
As for Mao, we are the direct decendants of the previous generation of the Chinese people, and our parents and grandparents told us how much Mao helped them and saved China from their personal family experience, that's why we love Mao, do you believe you or our grandparents? How many Indians Mao killed, in 1962 he only killed thousands of Indians at most, but it's a war, In Korean war he killed Americans, but China also suffered casualties, Your Indian government could easily be interpreted as the biggest genocider in the world by repeatedly implementing failed policies in the past 70 years based on your absurd logic.

That's exactly what he is saying about the smiling happy people in the Xinjiang videos. It doesn't represent the big picture of the real people away from the cameras.

So whose reports represent the big picture? western media? now even more and more westerners stop believing western media, which is degrading big time by the day just like the whole western world.

 

[beijingwalker]

I can do a search for "driving in beijing", "driving in shenzhen", "driving in shanghai", but maybe 1 hit for "driving in Xinjiang". Really?

Do you think Xinjiang have as foreigners as in Beijing and Shenzhen? it's the most remote regions in China for god sake. even so, besides, you don't see many foreingers driving in China in the first place, most don't have a Chinese driver's license and even they do they just drive in their residing big cities , and I don't know if you really searched, cause there are still many on youtube.

Wait, do you mean driving in Xinjiang by foreigners or by Chinese, or both?

 

[That Guy]

Why are the natives called "aboriginal peoples ", what a racist and degrading terminology. The white colonialists in Canada should be called aboriginal peoples. Another I can't understand is why African descendant people accept to being called black people. They are different shades of brown.

Brother, I suggest looking up the definition of aboriginal first. It is not degrading at all, and properly defines them.

They were the first and oldest people on the continent, so this word fits better than native.

Anyway, this will be my final comment for a very long time.

 

[beijingwalker]

Again, you are looking at this from the wrong perspective.

But I'll answer your question in the simplest terms possible, if almost the entirety of my family today was eradicated, I would hold a grudge sure, but I'm not going to hold the children of the perpetrators responsible, but the perpetrators themselves, but it will be my expectation that the children know what happened and let them figure out what's right and wrong from there.

You are looking at it as the son being responsible for the sins of the father, if that was the case you should also be responsible for all the deaths when Tibet was assimilated, Mongolia should be held responsible for the genocides inflicted by Genghis and Kublai, the Italians should be held responsible for all the deaths they caused in Gaul, and all of England up to Hadrian's wall.

You are focused on the bad when the simple fact is neither you or I were here when it happened, but you and I have the option of having a moral compass to know what happened was wrong, learn the lessons from it and endeavor to create an equitable society for those who were wronged by actions of the past.

So there is impossible justice can be restore as long as you killed everyone of them and take all the possession of theirs. A robber and killer's logic.
The only different Hitler failed and US succceedd is US killed off the whole first nation so no one can come back to claim what they stole, but Hitler failed in this regard.

 

[beijingwalker]

182 indigenous children's remains dug up at third school, Internet calls it 'racial cleansing'

By Saumya Dixit
Updated On : 23:08 PST, Jul 1, 2021

On Wednesday, June 30, a Canadian Indigenous community stated that a search using ground-penetrating radar has discovered 182 human remains in unmarked graves in British Columbia. The news comes a few months after 215 human remains of children were found at the Kamloops Indian Residential School building in May 2021.

According to a report, the Lower Kootenay Band, a member band of the Ktunaxa Nation, released a statement on Wednesday, June 30, stating that 182 remains were found at an unmarked grave where St Eugene's Mission School was formerly located. "It is believed that the remains of these 182 souls are from the member Bands of the Ktunaxa nation, neighboring First Nations communities, & the community of aqam," the statement said.

A member community of the Ktunaxa Nation, the Aqam, conducted the hunt for the remains using radar, which revealed that the graves of the dead were shallow and only 3 to 4 feet deep. From 1912 until the early 1970s the school was operated by the Roman Catholic church. Nearly 100 Lower Kootenay Band members ages 7 to 15 were required by the Canadian government to attend. "The Lower Kootenay Band is still in the very early stages of receiving information from the reports of the findings but will provide updates as time progresses," the statement said. "The Lower Kootenay Band has living survivors of the St Eugene's Mission School & requests that the general public respect our privacy at this time."

Chief Jason Louie of the Lower Kootenay Band called the discovery "deeply personal" since he had relatives attend the school. "The Nazis were held accountable for their war crimes. I see no difference in locating the priests and nuns and the brothers who are responsible for this mass murder to be held accountable for their part in this attempt of genocide of an Indigenous people," he said.

From the 19th century until the 1970s, more than 150,000 Indigenous children were forced to attend state-funded Christian boarding schools to assimilate them into Canadian society. Thousands of children died there of disease and other causes, with many never returned to their families. Nearly three-quarters of the 130 residential schools were administered by Roman Catholic missionary congregations, with others run by the Presbyterian, Anglican and the United Church of Canada, which today is the largest Protestant denomination in the country. The Canadian government has acknowledged that physical and sexual abuse was rampant in the schools, with students beaten for speaking their native languages.


As soon as the latest news made its way to social media, people started reacting to it. One person said, "What kind of monsters would do this to children? Canada has some explaining to do." While another one claimed, "I think we can be 100% sure that this absolutely did also happen in the US. We had our own residential schools."

What kind of monsters would do this to children? Canada has some explaining to do.
— Cooper (@kingpin7666) July 1, 2021

I think we can be 100% sure that this absolutely did also happen in the US. We had our own residential schools.
— 65 Feral Jellicles (@LXV) July 1, 2021

Revealing a series of facts, one person tweeted, "What I don't understand in so many of the replies to these revelations is the shock. The UN said in 2019 that Canada was guilty of genocide - why so little outrage then? Because it was all still 'rumour' and hidden? This IS our history and present. We need to be honest." He further said, "The Truth and Reconciliation Commission report in 2015 revealed the genocide for what it was and demanded that the children be found. We ALL knew these revelations were coming. Pressure the government now to stop fighting the Indigenous Peoples and act honourably."

What I don't understand in so many of the replies to these revelations is the shock. The UN said in 2019 that Canada was guilty of genocide - why so little outrage then? Because it was all still 'rumour' and hidden? This IS our history and present. We need to be honest.
— Michelle Pillsworth (@MPillsworth) July 1, 2021

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission report in 2015 revealed the genocide for what it was and demanded that the children be found. We ALL knew these revelations were coming. Pressure the government now to stop fighting the Indigenous Peoples and act honourably.
— Michelle Pillsworth (@MPillsworth) July 1, 2021

One person tweeted, "This was really a racial cleansing." Calling it "heartbreaking" another one said, "This is heartbreaking. The sad truth is there’s likely to be many more. We need there to be a full investigation into this horrific nightmare! This is genocide and indigenous people deserve justice!"

This was really a racial cleansing
— Yengos (@Mayengo20) June 30, 2021

This is heartbreaking. The sad truth is there’s likely to be many more. We need there to be a full investigation into this horrific nightmare! This is genocide and indigenous people deserve justice!
— zaynab (@zaynabmahmood19) July 1, 2021

182 indigenous children's remains dug up at third school, Internet calls it 'racial cleansing'

A Twitter user said, 'What kind of monsters would do this to children? Canada has some explaining to do'

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[khansaheeb]

Brother, I suggest looking up the definition of aboriginal first. It is not degrading at all, and properly defines them.

They were the first and oldest people on the continent, so this word fits better than native.

Anyway, this will be my final comment for a very long time.

Found this on google, I also find it offensive as it is a colonial contrived term contrived to dehumanise locals.

Aborigine. The term 'Aborigine' was commonly used up until the 1960s but is now regarded as outdated and inappropriate. This is partly because the word 'Aborigine' is a noun, which is dehumanising. 'Aboriginal' is an adjective sometimes used as a noun.Jan 28, 2021

 

[ApparentRaceTraitor]

So there is impossible justice can be restore as long as you killed everyone of them and take all the possession of theirs. A robber and killer's logic.
The only different Hitler failed and US succceedd is US killed off the whole first nation so no one can come back to claim what they stole, but Hitler failed in this regard.

Dude/Dudette, you are making no sense. The First Nations people are very much alive and part of our lives in Canada. I cannot speak for Yankeestan.

 

[beijingwalker]

Dude/Dudette, you are making no sense. The First Nations people are very much alive and part of our lives in Canada. I cannot speak for Yankeestan.

I said they are almost being killed off, they use to make 100% of the local population, how is their percentage today?

So called " Founding Fathers" of America

 

[ApparentRaceTraitor]

You are saying there is no justice at all in the world, as long as you killed off (genocice) all of them, there's no way they can come back asking for justice, the reason why Hilter failed and US succeeded is because US killed almost all of the first nation while Hilter didn't.
As for Mao, we are the direct decendants of the previous generation of the Chinese people, and our parents and grandparents told us how much Mao helped them and saved China from their personal family experience, that's why we love Mao, do you believe you or our grandparents? How many Indians Mao killed, in 1962 he only killed thousands of Indians at most, but it's a war, In Korean war he killed Americans, but China also suffered casualties, Your Indian government could easily be interpreted as the biggest genocider in the world by repeatedly implementing failed policies in the past 70 years based on your absurd logic.

So whose reports represent the big picture? western media? now even more and more westerners stop believing western media, which is degrading big time by the day just like the whole western world.

First off, thanks for assuming that my government is Indian. I have lived under two governments in my life and neither of them are Indian so let's dispense with bringing India into this, cool? And if you want to discuss the U.S treatment of its native population, you're better off debating with an American.

And you're going off on a tangent again, I never said Mao never did any good, but the point that was being made was that millions died under his regime...a statistic yes but still, even that point is not being debated here, the point is are you holding yourself responsible for those deaths? I certainly don't expect you to.

And I'd rather trust western media (including sources from the internet) with multiple sources and opportunities for verification/authentication than a governmental mouthpiece. It's like listening to Kim in the North say that his citizens in Korea are free.

 

[ApparentRaceTraitor]

I said they are almost being killed off, they use to make 100% of the local population, how is their percentage today?

So called " Founding Fathers" of America

Are you discussing Canada or the United States here? And are you going to keep harping on the past rather than the situation in the present?

 

[beijingwalker]

I never said Mao never did any good, but the point that was being made was that millions died under his regime...

I guess more than millions, Chinese are not known for immortality. Mao pushed the average life expectancy of the Chinese people multiple folds under his leadership, and Chinese population was doubled during the same period of time, Mao must be world most unsuccessful genocider ever.
We were told how Mao mananged China by our parents and grandparents personally, we don't need foreigners to tell us what kind of a person Mao was. We know why westerners hate him, he beat the crap out of the west the very second year of PRC, the first non western person bravely challenged western "rule of law" over this world.

 

[beijingwalker]

Are you discussing Canada or the United States here? And are you going to keep harping on the past rather than the situation in the present?

Both countries were built on genocides and stolen lands.
A photograph of officers and civilians unloading the frozen bodies of Lakota men, women and children into a mass grave at Wounded Knee.

 

[ApparentRaceTraitor]

Both countries were built on genocides and stolen lands.

Are you debating the past or present? Simple question. Because no one is doubting the former, and no one believes the latter.