Redrawing Karachi, ECB snubs the great MQM

[UmarJustice]

More transparency in voting is good for elections.

Same should be held throughout the country!

 

[Thorough Pro]

At least, we don't bow down to Punjabi interests running Pakistan

sure, but you kiss a murderes *** running western interest in karachi, as i said before you are plain idiot. period.

 

[ice_man]

i don't understand why MQM didn't object like this in 2002 when in 2001, five districts of Karachi were merged to form the city district of Karachi.

whenever it benefits MQM they are quiet when it doesn't they cry!


remember the time 2 years ago when MQM said if petrol prices are increased we would quit government guess what prices increase daily and yet MQM is in bed with PPP!


india progressed because they made bal thackrey just a spokesperson and powerless! karachi will progress once ALTAF goes KEEP MQM but REMOVE ALTAF!

make mustafa kamal or farooq sattar the leader of MQM! they live in karachi and feel what karachities feel!

 

[RazorMC]

...make mustafa kamal or farooq sattar the leader of MQM! they live in karachi and feel what karachities feel!

Good point.
We need reforms in all political parties as well. Let their "leaders" live in a middle-class area of any city and feel what it's like to face electricity and fuel shortages alongwith absence of decent health facilities and a troubling law&order situation.

 

[Manticore]

Another move to benefit Punjab by the CJ. Karachi will now be at the mercy of a thug from Punjab. We hope that this is changed.

Clear racism by the ECP. Karachi must throw all now Karachiites OUT!

this SICK way of thinking will ultimately break this country --- seriously none of us deserve pakistan --

i am really sad by this way of thinking and hope for the survival of pakistan that youngsters generally dont have this open hostilty towards their fellow pakistanis on the base of religion, sect, province, sex etc

you need clever , educated, honest, capable people to lead the country and represent pakistan -- this should be the ONLY criteria .. and till the time when honest hardworking people have no representation and are put down / let down like this by politicians and citizens alike, pakistan has no chance of survival

 

[airmarshal]

Learn to read:


A Punjabi shouldn't watch over Karachi's elections!

But then again, this is what they did to Balochistan, now we have the BLA!

If a Punjabi shouldn't watch over election then muhajir shouldn't stay in Pakistan. Muhjair should go back where he came from. Pakistan belongs to Pakistanis foremost.

I did not want to respond to this thread. But your mentality is a specimen of divisive and destructive politics that MQM has practiced in the last three decades.

Karachi does not in any way belong to MQM. The delimitation in 2002 was unjust. It was done by Musharraf and he was a dictator. IF ECP is rectifying a problem created by one man, its within its mandate. All Pakistanis must support ECP led by a competent, honest and principled Chief Election Commissioner.

All the time MQM is mutahida, but as soon as it is under pressure, it shows its true color of it being an ethnic party that does its dirty politics of dividing our nation.

 

[truthseer]

If a Punjabi shouldn't watch over election then muhajir shouldn't stay in Pakistan. Muhjair should go back where he came from. Pakistan belongs to Pakistanis foremost.

I did not want to respond to this thread. But your mentality is a specimen of divisive and destructive politics that MQM has practiced in the last three decades.

Karachi does not in any way belong to MQM. The delimitation in 2002 was unjust. It was done by Musharraf and he was a dictator. IF ECP is rectifying a problem created by one man, its within its mandate. All Pakistanis must support ECP led by a competent, honest and principled Chief Election Commissioner.

All the time MQM is mutahida, but as soon as it is under pressure, it shows its true color of it being an ethnic party that does its dirty politics of dividing our nation.

We made Pakistan. Before we leave, we'd make Jinnahpur first

 

[RescueRanger]

Clear racism by the ECP. Karachi must throw all now Karachiites OUT!

Doc Brown Comedy Rap - YouTube

 

[truthseer]

Doc Brown Comedy Rap - YouTube

I do not watch banned stuff, I believe in Islam

 

[KS]

If a Punjabi shouldn't watch over election then muhajir shouldn't stay in Pakistan. Muhjair should go back where he came from. Pakistan belongs to Pakistanis foremost.

Muhajirs are more pakistanis than all of you. Its a muhajir who gave you the identity Pakistani. If not for them, you would be just living in an United India.

 

[RescueRanger]

I do not watch banned stuff, I believe in Islam

 

[airmarshal]

Muhajirs are more pakistanis than all of you. Its a muhajir who gave you the identity Pakistani. If not for them, you would be just living in an United India.

What the hell was that?

 

[Thorough Pro]

I do not watch banned stuff, I believe in Islam

You believe in islam? Really? Read what islam says about people who believe, promote, and follow people and ideology which creates division among people.

To help here I have reproduced some, read them and then lets here you talk about MQM.

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Hujurat 49:10
The believers are nothing else than brothers (in Islâmic religion). So make reconciliation between your brothers, and fear Allâh, that you may receive mercy.

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Imran 3:103
And hold fast, all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah's favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth Allah make His Signs clear to you: That ye may be guided.

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Shura 42:13
The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than Allah, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. Allah chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him).

The Noble Qur'an - Al-An'am 6:159
As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah. He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Anfal 8:46
And obey Allah and His Messenger. and fall into no disputes, lest ye lose heart and your power depart; and be patient and persevering: For Allah is with those who patiently persevere:

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Anbiyaa 21:93
But (later generations) cut off their affair (of unity), one from another: (yet) will they all return to Us.


Hadith - Muslim, Narrated Abu Malik al-Ash'ariy
"Four things are among my followers from the traditions of Jahiliyyah which will not leave: pride of lineage, slandering kinship, use of astrology for rain, and wailing"

[similar to that is narrated from him by Ahmad, at-Tabaraani, al-Hakim, and al-Bayhaqi in his Sunan]


Hadith - Narrated by Abu Hurayrah (r.a.), Ahmad, Abu Dawud
"Indeed Allah has removed from you the blind loyalties of jahiliyyah and the pride for ancestry. Either be a pious believer or a miserable insolent. (All of) you are children of Adam, and Adam is from dust. Let some men cease to take pride in others, who are nothing but burning coal for the HellFire, it will be easier for Allah to handle them than a dung beetle driving his nose into *****"

[This hadith is graded hasan; similar reported in at-Tirmidhi]


Hadith - Mishkat Al-Masabih, Vol. 2, p. 1021
The Prophet said on the authority of Ubayy Bin Ka'b: "If anyone proudly asserts his descent in the manner of the pre-Islamic people, tell him to bite his father's penis, and do not use a euphemism".

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Hujurat 49:11
O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): Nor let some women laugh at others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former): Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.

The Noble Qur'an - Luqman 31:18
And swell not thy cheek (for pride) at men, nor walk in insolence through the earth; for Allah loveth not any arrogant boaster.

 

[airmarshal]

You believe in islam? Really? Read what islam says about people who believe, promote, and follow people and ideology which creates division among people.

To help here I have reproduced some, read them and then lets here you talk about MQM.

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Hujurat 49:10
The believers are nothing else than brothers (in Islâmic religion). So make reconciliation between your brothers, and fear Allâh, that you may receive mercy.

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Imran 3:103
And hold fast, all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah's favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth Allah make His Signs clear to you: That ye may be guided.

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Shura 42:13
The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than Allah, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. Allah chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him).

The Noble Qur'an - Al-An'am 6:159
As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah. He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Anfal 8:46
And obey Allah and His Messenger. and fall into no disputes, lest ye lose heart and your power depart; and be patient and persevering: For Allah is with those who patiently persevere:

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Anbiyaa 21:93
But (later generations) cut off their affair (of unity), one from another: (yet) will they all return to Us.


Hadith - Muslim, Narrated Abu Malik al-Ash'ariy
"Four things are among my followers from the traditions of Jahiliyyah which will not leave: pride of lineage, slandering kinship, use of astrology for rain, and wailing"

[similar to that is narrated from him by Ahmad, at-Tabaraani, al-Hakim, and al-Bayhaqi in his Sunan]


Hadith - Narrated by Abu Hurayrah (r.a.), Ahmad, Abu Dawud
"Indeed Allah has removed from you the blind loyalties of jahiliyyah and the pride for ancestry. Either be a pious believer or a miserable insolent. (All of) you are children of Adam, and Adam is from dust. Let some men cease to take pride in others, who are nothing but burning coal for the HellFire, it will be easier for Allah to handle them than a dung beetle driving his nose into *****"

[This hadith is graded hasan; similar reported in at-Tirmidhi]


Hadith - Mishkat Al-Masabih, Vol. 2, p. 1021
The Prophet said on the authority of Ubayy Bin Ka'b: "If anyone proudly asserts his descent in the manner of the pre-Islamic people, tell him to bite his father's penis, and do not use a euphemism".

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Hujurat 49:11
O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): Nor let some women laugh at others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former): Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.

The Noble Qur'an - Luqman 31:18
And swell not thy cheek (for pride) at men, nor walk in insolence through the earth; for Allah loveth not any arrogant boaster.

Great stuff. Truly inspiring. But MQM and its followers are evil. Their politics is to divide and to destroy. They are anything but religious and proudly call themselves enlightened and secular. So this lecture will have no effect.

This MQM guy might call you a Punjabi or a Pathan if he cant reason with you. This is MQM's escape chute. As soon as they are out of wits, either they will point the gun at you and start playing victims.

MQM has been in government since 1993. It has been in government since 2002 and will remain so forever. By being in government, they have not been able to arrest the killers of their 'shuhadaa' but have murdered each and every police officer who took part in the operation.

Its leader does politics in Pakistan but resides in London with a British nationality. He can travel to India but cant come to Pakistan due to security reasons. As he insists on not coming back, he has no right then to do politics in Pakistan either.

As soon as MQM is pressed for answers, its local leaders start talking about quota system. Its the same quote system against which they started their politics in 1984. Even after so many years in government, they have not been able address their primary grievance.

MQM is a pack of lies and ironies. Its leader is megalomaniac. This party's only value and priority is to stay in power at all cost.

 

[ice_man]

currently the only MUHAJIR's in karachi are afghanis because the generations growing up in karachi were born in pakistan raised in pakistan hence NOT MUHAJIR! this muhajir tag is what MQM uses so he can target a specific ethnicty!

power lies where we wish it to be. and altaf needs the muhajir tag inorder to increase his personal gains!