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ISLAMABAD: For the first time in the history of Pakistan, internationally acclaimed aerobatics display team of the Royal Air Force, The Red Arrows, would present an aerobatics show at Sea View, Karachi on Thursday, October 5.

Along with the Red Arrows, Pakistan Air Force's JF-17 Thunder would also put on breathtaking aerobatics during the show. The event is sure to excite the people of Karachi as the Red Arrows are renowned for their jaw dropping aerobatics. The event, organized by Pakistan Air Force, is open for general public and is scheduled to start at 1330.

http://dailytimes.com.pk/pakistan/04-Oct-17/royal-air-force-to-perform-in-air-show-at-clifton-beach
 
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ISLAMABAD: For the first time in the history of Pakistan, internationally acclaimed aerobatics display team of the Royal Air Force, The Red Arrows, would present an aerobatics show at Sea View, Karachi on Thursday, October 5.

Confused sentence.
 
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This photo is from their previous visit...they had a show in muscat,oman today
I know I posted it because some members were curious about who the red arrows are
 
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I think TV channels have been instructed to go out of their way not to show the full turns of Thunder at the beginning of the performance. Can't compute the turn rate :(

At approx. 5:24, after a relatively lazy start to a turn, it all of a sudden powers through, disturbing its own contrail. That is, the aft portion of the aircraft moves into the contrail that was formed just moments ago. Mixture of superb speed and turn rate.


If we take aircraft angle to be 45 degrees at 5:24, then by 5:26 it is at 90 degrees. An instantaneous turn rate of 22.5 degrees per second. Not bad at all. No wonder it gave grief to J-11 in the recent Shaheen VI exercises. Would be interesting to know how this profile changes as the height increases.

One final thing to note. Not much smoke seen throughout the display. Superb!!!!!!!!
 
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Approx. 21.17 deg/sec. Erring on the side of caution and subtracting 3% gives 20.5 degrees per second.

What did you calculate?

F-16
maximum instantenous turn rate: 26 degrees/second
Maximum sustained turn rate: 18 degrees/secon
 
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For comparison, see below. But remember, in the video above, Thunder's altitude varies between 1500-1900 ft. Also, for the instantaneous turn rate above, remember I am dividing 45 degrees by 2 seconds which is a seat of the pants approximation. Consider this: dividing 45 degrees by 1.5 seconds gives 30 deg/sec. Well within experimental error limits given I am using approximate numbers.

http://topolo.free.fr/Compare/Rafale vs Typhoon.pdf

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What did you calculate?

Apologies, post updated. It was sustained turn rate.
 
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