Recognising Taliban govt was Pakistan’s mistake: Musharraf

[OrionHunter]

KARACHI: Former military ruler General (retd) Pervez Musharraf on Thursday termed recognition of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan a blunder on part of Pakistan but blamed the West and United States for the birth of Al Qaeda and leaving Pakistan high and dry after the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Speaking at the Youth Parliament Convention here, he said Pakistan suffered due to wrong policies of the US as the country had to fight on two fronts simultaneously in 1979, which led to an increase in the size of the armed forces.

Musharraf said efforts have been made to destabilise Pakistan right from 50s and 60s era.

“Some say Taliban are our children and we created them… but it’s not true,” said the former president.

Musharraf regretted that Mujahideen were not looked after following their ‘utilisation’ against the Soviets. He said Taliban who were fighting in Afghanistan were ethnic Pakhtuns and that identity was given to them by Pakistan.

He, however, admitted that recognising the Taliban regime in Afghanistan was a blunder on Pakistan’s part.

Recognising Taliban govt was Pakistan’s mistake: Musharraf - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

And how many more blunders are the PTB in Pakistan going to commit? Using terrorists as proxies to fight the PA's war against India would soon be regretted too! 'strategic assets' today, but what of tomorrow? These very proxies would be responsible for Pakistan's ruin.

 

[jamahir]

1. musharraf is playing safe by not blaming zia ul haq for involving pakistan in usa government's regime-change attempt against the legitimate socialist government of afghanistan... musharraf must call a spade a spade by calling zia ul haq a violator of human rights and war criminal.

2. usa government and saudia were perhaps the first two governments to recognize the "taliban government"... and didn't the taliban have an embassy in the nato-puppet kingdom of qatar?? india was another early government to give recognition to the taliban.

3. the so-called "mujhideen" were munafi* dogs who destroyed afghanistan and were used by cia in every subsequent american regime-change project, especially libya and syria.

4. musharraf must remember the time muammar gaddafi visited pakistan, and should adopt socialism.

5. fatima bhutto must join musharraf.

 

[Iggy]

2. usa government and saudia were perhaps the first two governments to recognize the "taliban government"... and didn't the taliban have an embassy in the nato-puppet kingdom of qatar?? india was another early government to give recognition to the taliban.

Re writing history are we??

4. musharraf must remember the time muammar gaddafi visited pakistan, and should adopt socialism.

Then again with the stupidity.. Socialism is dead.. Get over it.. No one is going to use barter system again.. Currency was introduced because of the limitations in barter system..

 

[Jf Thunder]

1. musharraf is playing safe by not blaming zia ul haq for involving pakistan in usa government's regime-change attempt against the legitimate socialist government of afghanistan... musharraf must call a spade a spade by calling zia ul haq a violator of human rights and war criminal.

2. usa government and saudia were perhaps the first two governments to recognize the "taliban government"... and didn't the taliban have an embassy in the nato-puppet kingdom of qatar?? india was another early government to give recognition to the taliban.

3. the so-called "mujhideen" were munafi* dogs who destroyed afghanistan and were used by cia in every subsequent american regime-change project, especially libya and syria.

4. musharraf must remember the time muammar gaddafi visited pakistan, and should adopt socialism.

5. fatima bhutto must join musharraf.

1)Zia Ul Haq Zindabad
2)USA didnt recogonize Taliban Govt i think
3)Fair enough
4)do we look like idiots to you? adopt socialism, seriously?
5)He is an idiot, but not that big of an idiot, the Bhuttos destroyed Pakistan

 

[jamahir]

Re writing history are we??

true history, true present...

1. account of 1993 visit to taliban by indian diplomat ( m.k. bhadrakumar )... ( A kafir among the Wahhabis - Rediff.com India News ).

2. the current indian involvement in infrastructure projects in afghanistan, through territory controlled by taliban... projects including "zaranj-delaram highway".

3. the taliban earning money through opium sales to cia.

4. indian government and military acting as b-team of nato in afghanistan.

Then again with the stupidity.. Socialism is dead.. Get over it.. No one is going to use barter system again.. Currency was introduced because of the limitations in barter system..

why do some pdf members think that "no money" means barter system... barter is money too.

1)Zia Ul Haq Zindabad

strange...

2)USA didnt recogonize Taliban Govt i think

i am old enough to remember usa recognizing taliban "government".

3)Fair enough

yet you say (1) and (2).

4)do we look like idiots to you? adopt socialism, seriously?

i am quite serious... the gaddafi stadium ( lahore ) is ironical... it stands as reminder to pakistan that "another world is possible", as che guevara would say.

further, why must i explain to pakistanis about the socialist ideals of iqbal, and then other great people like faiz ahmed faiz...

5)He is an idiot, but not that big of an idiot, the Bhuttos destroyed Pakistan

how about fatima's father and uncle, mir murtaza bhutto and shahnawaz bhutto??

 

[Jf Thunder]

strange...

he was an awesome dude

yet you say (1) and (2).

becuase point 3 is fair

i am quite serious... the gaddafi stadium ( lahore ) is ironical... it stands as reminder to pakistan that "another world is possible", as che guevara would say.

further, why must i explain to pakistanis about the socialist ideals of iqbal, and then other great people like faiz ahmed faiz.

faiz was an idiot, while Iqbal showed the True and Real Islam, not socialism

i am quite serious... the gaddafi stadium ( lahore ) is ironical... it stands as reminder to pakistan that "another world is possible", as che guevara would say.

further, why must i explain to pakistanis about the socialist ideals of iqbal, and then other great people like faiz ahmed faiz...

not socialism
we dont need it

how about fatima's father and uncle, mir murtaza bhutto and shahnawaz bhutto??

dont know about them

 

[janon]

2. usa government and saudia were perhaps the first two governments to recognize the "taliban government"... and didn't the taliban have an embassy in the nato-puppet kingdom of qatar?? india was another early government to give recognition to the taliban.

The only three countries that recognized the taliban govt were S Arabia, Pakistan and UAE. Nobody else would recognize such a barbaric regime. Please do not write blatant falsehoods.

 

[jamahir]

dont know about them

then you must read fatima's "songs of blood and sword" as first point of reference.

he was an awesome dude

even when he went to jordan and massacred plo fighters??

becuase point 3 is fair

thank you.

faiz was an idiot, while Iqbal showed the True and Real Islam, not socialism

can you show me one example where iqbal disrespected socialism?? or spoke of anything but respect for socialism??

not socialism
we dont need it

how can anyone deny the humanism of socialism?? how can anyone deny the simplicity and common sense in what i have written in this post... ( The Worldwide Government | Page 3 )??

 

[janon]

I suppose this is yet another one of those innumerable stupidities that Pakistan commits, and then says "Oops", several years later. The rest of the world can do nothing but say "we told you so".

 

[jamahir]

The only three countries that recognized the taliban govt were S Arabia, Pakistan and UAE. Nobody else would recognize such a barbaric regime. Please do not write blatant falsehoods.

1. please do read the link in my reply to seiko.

2. in the early 90's, someone gave me a older copy of "india today" magazine... one of the main stories was the account of visit by a reporter for the magazine, to the "mujahideen"... not to the socialist government or the ussr military, mind you... but to the anti-communist cia-puppet "mujahideen"... you may contact "india today" and verify what i wrote... and derive your own conclusions.

3. what side of the afghan war was india on?? certainly not of the socialist government there...

4. usa... i remember reading about an american military food airlift to the taliban "government" because of severe snowfall right after the taliban took control of kabul and formed "government"... again, you may enquire with any person or agency... maybe you can ask @jhungary

 

[OrionHunter]

It's clear as day as to why Pakistan recognized the murderous Taliban regime in Afghanistan. For 'strategic depth' against India. Pakistan had by then become paranoid about its security vis a vis India. It needed a pliable govt in Afghanistan which would bow to the wishes of the Establishment to ensure security of its Western borders.

For this to happen, the Pakistani Establishment did all it could to support and recognize the illegitimate Taliban govt.

 

[Iggy]

true history, true present...

1. account of 1993 visit to taliban by indian diplomat ( m.k. bhadrakumar )... ( A kafir among the Wahhabis - Rediff.com India News ).

That is quite moronic.. Even Jaswant Singh visited Afghanistan at that time to release the hostages.. We never officially recognized the Taliban government.

why do some pdf members think that "no money" means barter system... barter is money too.

Then enlighten me how you are going to buy and sell goods in the market..

 

[ranjeet]

Looks like house arrest gave enough time to Musharaff to reflect on past blunders, wait for few weeks he would be saying the same thing about Kargil as well.

 

[janon]

1. please do read the link in my reply to seiko.

2. in the early 90's, someone gave me a older copy of "india today" magazine... one of the main stories was the account of visit by a reporter for the magazine, to the "mujahideen"... not to the socialist government or the ussr military, mind you... but to the anti-communist cia-puppet "mujahideen"... you may contact "india today" and verify what i wrote... and derive your own conclusions.

3. what side of the afghan war was india on?? certainly not of the socialist government there...

4. usa... i remember reading about an american military food airlift to the taliban "government" because of severe snowfall right after the taliban took control of kabul and formed "government"... again, you may enquire with any person or agency... maybe you can ask @jhungary

1) One man visiting a country does not mean that formal, diplomatic relations were established. The home minister himself went to Afgh during the Air India hijack crisis.

2) See 1).

3) India was firmly on the side of the Northern alliance, and even set up field hospitals to treat their wounded fighters. Pakistan was fighting with and training Taliban fighters.

4) You seem to "remember" a lot of things that did not happen. You might want to start relying on easily available information, than your own faulty memory. It is a fact that only the three above mentioned countries recognized Taliban, no matter what your "memory" tells you.

 

[ranjeet]

Then enlighten me how you are going to buy and sell goods in the market..