Rebuilding the army of Genghis Khan

[zavis2003]

Pakistani dare to talk shit about Central-Asian people. Compare Central Asian people to Pakistan and then come and talk to me. Central Asian people are the most advanced people in the Muslim world.

I have read your posts!

You are going to have hostile feelings about Pakistan.

Let me tell you something beautiful about my Pakistan.

It is made up of many many races so it make us very colorful and diverse.

Yes we don't speak shit about central asians because shit is bad thing.

And by the way why you are so becoming near and dear to central asians :/ ?????

I am a Turk and I think I am a better Turk than you and more closely affilates to Central Asia

But my Pakistan is my Turkistan

Once in Istanbul I had faced raciest behavior but I don't say bad words toward other Turks around.

So be respectful to Pakistan as we respect the Turkey and all others.

Have a good day and don't forget we have nukes :p we will strike at your hostile posts with nukes

Just kidding !

 

[telkon]

The genetic makeup of the Turkish people is something that is quite complex and cannot be summarized in statements like:

"Look at Kazakhs and look at Turks in Turkey, it seems that Turkey Turks are just a bunch of muslim Greeks and Arabs"
or
"The real Turks are pure mongoloid"

When you look at the genetical makeup of All Turkic people, there is one thing that stands out. All of them are a combination of Mongoloid and Caucasoid DNA. This combination varies over continents:

Mongols have 93% Mongoloid DNA and 7% Caucasoid
Kazakh, Kyrgyz have around 65-70% Mongoloid DNA, 30% caucasoid
Ughurs have around 40-45% Mongoloid DNA
Uzbeks around 35% Mongoloid
Turkmens of Turkmenistan around 25%-30% Mongoloid
Azeris vary between 80-22%
And Finally the Turks of Turkey have around 14%

This is much higher than Kurds, Arabs or Greeks, where it is just max 2%, but again this is just an average. Istanbul Turks are on average 8%, When you go to inner Anatolia, seeing 25% is not so rare. There are a lot of Turks with significant Mongoloid DNA, But look 100% Caucasoid. The typical Turks of nowadays mostly look 100% Caucasoid.

For example my cousin. His mother is from a Turkmen tribe and all look quite mongoloid, his father was of Albanian heritage. The result is a look that has 0% Turkic mongoloid properties.

Also, a big mistake people make is to think that the Oghuz tribes which entered Anatolia were like Kazakhs or Kyrgyz. This is also not true. They were probably more like the Turkmens of nowadays, because they already mixed with various Iranic Tribes, so around 30-35% Mongoloid DNA. This means that almost half of the Current Turkish DNA stems from those nomads, which is a lot. A huge shift in genetics.

the problem with turkic genetics is that, being an inclusive system, we absorbed and interacted with too many ethnicities, thus you can't give exact definition of turkic genetics. there's great variation among branches itself. kazakhs of orta juz differ from kazakh of kichi juz, which in turn differ from uly juz (southerners have more eastern eurasian trait than northerners, for example. 70% eastern eurasian - 30 western eurasian compared to 45 eastern- 55 western). kyrgyz of north have 70 eastern- 30 western, while southern kyrgyz have 35 eastern- 65 western eurasian dna. variation in uzbeks is a lot more complex. contrary to general north-south divergence, uzbeks vary in all directions and even vary in the same geographic area. turkics of siberia also exibit various degrees of eastern eurasian and western eurasian traits.

and i'll have to disagree with your idea on oghuz tribes. they didn't mix with iranians. there is a number of reasons for that. 1) oghuz crossing into Horasan weren't muslim (ruling elite was muslim, but average nomad was still a tengrianist). 2) first wave of oghuz marched from steppes of modern kazakhstan to horasan through mangishlak via horezm and they were used by Saljuk sultans as a vanguard against byzantium, then second wave from maveraunnahr to balh to persia. the ones who settled in anatolia came either directly from persia and iraq, or from caucasus (Tughrul ordered oghuz who were attacking muslim marwani and mosul emirates to fight georgian christians who were attacking oghuz lands in caucasus, and these oghuz after 13. century started to migrate to anatolia). and if you've visited central anatolia (kırıkkale, kırşehir etc. turkmen regions) and yörük areas, you can clearly see eastern eurasian features are dominant.

 

[Azadkashmir]

and i'm mocking you light trolling, remember?

i can take it but afterwards some turk will complain i get strike.

 

[telkon]

oh, and i just remembered something. the Borjigin clan (so-called imperial clan of mongols) comes from 2 turkic words: börü (wolf) and tigin/tegin (prince).

 

[zavis2003]

Some fool Turkish are striking at my country and some fool pakistaniz are striking at my ethnic background.

I am pissed off by both sides.

So it is better to request some moderators to please close this thread right here.

 

[telkon]

i can take it but afterwards some turk will complain i get strike.

if you start to call a whole nation/race azzholes, there's a BIG chance someone will call your nation "nigga whores".

 

[Azadkashmir]

if you start to call a whole nation/race azzholes, there's a BIG chance someone will call your nation "nigga whores".

lolz nigga whores it turkey that promotes kemals visions take off the hijab. About the assole bit that was joke we Pakistanis do this to wind up members.

 

[telkon]

lolz nigga whores it turkey that promotes kemals visions take off the hijab. About the assole bit that was joke we Pakistanis do this to wind up members.

it's not up to you to criticize Atatürk. just shut up anf GTFO. and you can call your compatriots azzholes all you want. don't do it with Turks.

 

[atatwolf]

Some fool Turkish are striking at my country and some fool pakistaniz are striking at my ethnic background.

I am pissed off by both sides.

So it is better to request some moderators to please close this thread right here.

I have a better dea. Why don't you take the Pakistani trolls out this Turkish Mongol thread? Problem solved. If you insult a whole race obviously there will be a backlash.

 

[Azadkashmir]

it's not up to you to criticize Atatürk. just shut up anf GTFO. and you can call your compatriots azzholes all you want. don't do it with Turks.

you said nigga whores but i give fact about kemal vision. okay fine i apologize but remember you didn't get strike i did modz left you .

 

[telkon]

you said nigga whores but i give fact about kemal vision. okay fine i apologize but remember you didn't get strike i did modz left you .

It's not a fact. It's an opinion based on your worldview.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Don't mind me spoiling the post but i think this is great idea to have male and female ssg elite but are single and then marry them in to produce solder gene offspring which will marry back into ssg bloodline. machines come and go but bloodline goes long way. if i had a country i was ruler this is definite on my list.

ahahahahahah...........you are funny dude.

 

[Azadkashmir]

It's not a fact. It's an opinion based on your worldview.

time will tell truth always prevails over falsehood .

 

[Ceri]

This thread in few words: Racist Turks and Racist Pakistanis discussing Mongols

 

[Sanchez]

Imo being a Turk or Turkic is more of a cultural-linguistic thing not necessarily one about race. There are millions in Turkey who define themselves as Turks but are actually descendants of slavic-greek muslim refugees from the Balkans and have no genetic relationships to "Turks". Bulgarians could actually claim to be Turks because of the old Bulgarian empires that were established by Turkics but they don't define themselves as Turks so we don't see them as Turks where as we see balkan refugees as Turks which is fine.

AFAIK the word Turk first came about back in the Gok Turk empire where everyone living in that empires borders were labeled as Turks. We have a very broad definition of Turks, but we mostly see the people of the steppes to be Turks except for certain groups like the cossacks and some Iranic steppe people. We also through most people living in Turkey into the Turk group.

Huns, Turks, and Mongols are genetically different people. Mongols have dominantly C3 and N3 male DNAs, while Turks are believed to be J1 in origin, but heavily mixed with slavic-greek genes. Mongolian C3 or N3 is very rare in the Turkish gene pools. Genghis Khan either had a C3 or O3 from Chinese Han, irrelevant to Turkic.