Reality of Kashmir today June 2016 (Truth is Bitter)

[Joe Shearer]

Pakistani's aren't allowed to go to Kashmir - unless if it's on invite.

That is not accurate.

They are not allowed to come out.

Month ago TWO Newly Married Girls were dragged out of their marriage ceremony and RAPED by Indian armed forces.

And TWO is just a NUMBER just like THOUSANDS .......

And we have to take your word for it?

 

[New Resolve]

Indians are outsiders who have been shunned by the Kashmiris. UN resolutions on Kashmir must be implemented immediately, this Nuclear flash point can not be ignored any longer.

 

[Joe Shearer]

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Indians are outsiders who have been shunned by the Kashmiris. UN resolutions on Kashmir must be implemented immediately, this Nuclear flash point can not be ignored any longer.

Yes!

Do it!!

India insists that the UN Resolution be implemented!!!

Now, you nincompoop, go read the resolution, and hide.

 

[Tipu7]

That is not accurate.

They are not allowed to come out.



And we have to take your word for it?

A criminal don't take any word of any one .....

Keep up your "spiritual" mission in Kashmir ....
But don't cry when you suffer the consequences from hands of Kashmiri people........

 

[-xXx-]

Indians are outsiders who have been shunned by the Kashmiris. UN resolutions on Kashmir must be implemented immediately, this Nuclear flash point can not be ignored any longer.

Yes, UN resolution should be implemented.

1. Now, first get your army out of P.oK.
2. Then let India administer the whole Kashmir.
3. Then the responsibility lies with India to conduct referendum under UN supervision.

But hey, you lost the right to cry in UN after 72 Shimla Agreement. That happens when you loss a war, so live with it.

 

[OrionHunter]

Let me put some facts straight out for our voluble Pakistani friends who seem to go berserk at every minor incident in the Kashmir VALLEY. I've posted it before, but here it is again. It seems the facts haven't sunk in yet.

KASHMIR THE UNKNOWN DISTORTED FACTS​

Separatism Hype vs the truth

1. Separatist control only 5 districts = 15% of Jammu, Kashmir & Ladakh and they are all Sunni Muslims.

2. The Shiais, Sufis, Hindus, Buddhists and Christians are not separatists.

3. Two of the three regions of J&K are not Muslim majority areas. 85,000 square kilometers are not…When you talk of separatism, there haven’t been any protests against India in this 85 per cent area till date.

4. There’s only one section of community—Kashmiri-speaking Sunni Muslims who have a separatist agenda. When you see a TV debate on Kashmir, who do you see? Omar Abdullah, Mehbooba Mufti, Yasin Malik, Shabbir Shah, Gilani, Asiya Andrabi, and Lone. All are Sunni Muslims from these 5 districts out of 22!!

5. J&K has around 12 per cent Shia Muslims, around 12-14 per cent Gujjar Muslims and around eight per cent Pahadi Rajput Muslims, Sufis Christians, Buddhists and Hindus. None of these communities had any separatist leaders

6. When Afzal Guru was hanged, the media made it appear as if the entire state was out on the streets.The reality was that out of 22 districts, there was not a single demonstration in 17 districts and only five districts in the Valley faced mild demonstrations.

7. Poonch has 90 per cent Muslims but this district is dominated by powerful Sikhs. Kargil has 90 per cent Muslims, Kargil city has more than 99 per cent Muslims but there was not a single protest in those areas.

8. Our perception about J&K is that a battle between nationalism and separatism is going on for past 68 years. Nationalism has neither been lost nor will it, because in most areas of the state, majority of the people are nationalists.

9. There is no dispute over J&K and the only issue relating to the state is how to get back areas that are under the illegal occupation of Pakistan and China. (Pakistan invaded Kashmir in 1947 in Operation Gulmarg under then Brigadier Akbar Khan).

10. 'Separatism', 'dispute' and 'autonomy' are three myths associated with the state. The common perception is that J&K is a separatist state. This is because J&K is perceived first as just Kashmir - a Kashmir which is a Sunni Muslim Kashmir, a Muslim Kashmir which is a separatist Kashmir…basically a Kashmir where the Indian tricolor is burnt down and Pakistan’s flag is unfurled only in five districts.

The State should be considered as one entity like Jammu (with maximum of the ground area), Ladakh and only thereafter Kashmir.

11. Finally, Pakistan keeps harping on the UN Resolutions. But Part 2 of these Resolutions very clearly state that Pakistan has to withdraw ALL its military forces and nationals used for the purpose of fighting in J&K BEFORE a plebiscite is held. That was in 1947. It is now 2016. Pakistan has yet to withdraw all its forces from Kashmir including GB. The fact is that the PA will never withdraw its forces from Pak Administered Kashmir. This UN Resolution is thus dead as a dodo. So Pakistan needs to stop this charade of blaming India for not adhering to the UN Resolutions.

 

[Jamwal's]

So a guy pic some random Facebook post and claim "truth is bitter"

Around 10 lakh tourists visited Kashmir in 2011 alone, a source of income for Kashmiri Musalman.

60% increase in tourist arrival in 2016.

Its one the most visited state for Hindu Pilgrimage who visit Vaishno Devi and Baba Burfani (amarnath)


Buddhist from Sikkim and AP visit Laddakh.

And Don't take my word for it, just Google the above facts.



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Red Bull team at Gulmarg - bitter truth lamo

Kashmir calling Documentary

Kashmir is not going anywhere outside the territorial bounds of India, Pakistanis should learn to live with this fact.

 

[TMA]

Why not do similar to Northern Ireland? Allow the Kashmiris to choose which nationality to take; de-militarize both Kashmirs, release movement restrictions for the Kashmiris so they can move about freely in either Kashmir?

 

[livingdead]

Indians are outsiders who have been shunned by the Kashmiris. UN resolutions on Kashmir must be implemented immediately, this Nuclear flash point can not be ignored any longer.

have you ever been to kashmir? @Talwar e Pakistan how many Indian tourists did your cousin see on dal lake?

Why not do similar to Northern Ireland? Allow the Kashmiris to choose which nationality to take; de-militarize both Kashmirs, release movement restrictions for the Kashmiris so they can move about freely in either Kashmir?

musharaf's solution was not too far from northern ireland.. you need democratically elected leaders who are bold.. on both sides.. else signing on a piece of paper will be worth nothing.

 

[TMA]

have you ever been to kashmir? @Talwar e Pakistan how many Indian tourists did your cousin see on dal lake?


musharaf's solution was not too far from northern ireland

So what happened to that?

 

[livingdead]

So what happened to that?

it was in back channel, done secretly on both sides... obviously deals like this takes time to materialize, and both sides will have reservation..
Musharaf had to leave due to domestic issue... even if it was successful I would prefer somebody like Nawaz Sharif to Musharaf(to sign), as he is democratically elected representative. How durable is a contract signed with a dictator whose legality will be questioned in future(there is always that risk).

 

[Alpha Fighter]

also state the reason why they burned train ? while they are aware that they are living in a Hindu majority last more than fifty years ,,,,,,,,,

this man was christian and scored in Indian air space

Whatever the reason is , u have no right to kill, Previously Hindu's never retaliated against Muslims, and govt. protect Muslims (cong) , this time , things changes..

minority which can be count on fingers, not more then 10 in last 65 yrs?

 

[New Resolve]

India cant sweep this Nuclear Flash point under the rug anymore, UN resolutions are the only way forward, Indians crying like babies isn't going to solve anything, grow up kids.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Pakistani's aren't allowed to go to Kashmir - unless if it's on invite.

He went through the Wagah border; toured all throughout India and went to Kashmir because we have relatives there; i'll try to share some pictures.

 

[Joe Shearer]

And that's why more than 700 Thousand Indian Army is deployed there............can anybody explain what is that reason for such large army deployment of they don't want to kill the freedom movement.......???

The Pakistan Army nowadays has 230,000 personnel in each Corps? W A A A O W !! bigger than the Indian Army, then.

So what happened to that?

It was shot down by a senior BJP leader who got cold feet.