Real reasons of increasing rapes in the society

[Mian Babban]

pedophilia should be punished to death

From Deen's point of view ........ totally Un Islamic and totally unacceptable. A zulm. And sadly most of us base our justification for this heinous act based on our misunderstanding that Islam permits it.

By any moral standards it's a sick practice, and should be treated similar to pedophilia with appropriate legislation and punishment in place.

Are you sure?. Will you be able to convince a Deobandi, Bareilwi or Shia aalim to declare marriage of an adult male with non-baligh girl unislamic?. The answer is no, their fiqh permits nikah of an adult male with a prepubescent female even if she is few months old baby and they have based their rulings on Quran and hadith. The marriage can be consummated with non-baligh wife if she is physically fit to 'endure' sex (according to Sunni sect) or only if she attains the age of nine (according to Shia sect).

Here are references from 20th century Islamic sources ;

Shia :

https://www.sistani.org/urdu/book/61/3649/

(Note: you will come across term "ifdha" in fiqh books of Shias and Sunnis. It means rectovaginal or vesicovaginal fistula)

Sunnis

From Fatawa Haqqania ;

http://www.elmedeen.com/read-book-897&page=439&q=نابالغ بیوی

Ahle-hadith/Salafi

http://kitabosunnat.com/kutub-library/bachon-k-ahkam-w-masail

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Pedophilia is a sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object. If an adult middle aged Muslim man with Pedophilia perversion wants to marry a nine year old girl, then Islam permits him to do so. The pedophile will be only punished if he rapes a female child or engages in sodomy with a male child. The countries in which islamic laws are enforced (Saudi Arabia and Iran), marriage of an adult male (whether he is a pedophile or not) with prepubescent girl is allowed.

So let not bring religion into it. Also the cases of child rapes in Pakistan are not necessarily linked with perversion of pedophilia. And the men raping male childs in Pakistan are not exactly homosexual/gays. Most of the men target female childs because they are easy target and can be easily lured. Same is the case with rapes of male childs.

 

[prashantazazel]

Real reasons:
1. Social and economic inequality ( the main reason).
2. Lack of seriousness in law enforcement ( in non western countries).
3. Socio- religious laws victimising women( in non western countries).
4. Revenge/ exertion of power ( rarer, but more brutal).
5. Lack of interaction with the opposite sex, which leads to a lack of empathy. This explains the cases where the victims are hurt and killed.
6. Sexual conservatism in underdeveloped or religious countries- so sex is not available readily to most of the population.
7. Sexual exclusivity in developed countries- (and in any elite segment of society)- the top 50 percent of girls date only the top ten percent of guys.

8. Nature- most other animals don't have a concept of consent ( sex is a base extinct for survival).

 

[I.R.A]

Its a discussion, you have your point of view I have mine. Nothing is personal.

Are you sure?.

Yes .............. 100% because I believe in Quran and Quran only .... the rest is human work full of lies and deceit.

Will you be able to convince a Deobandi, Bareilwi or Shia aalim to declare marriage of an adult male with non-baligh girl unislamic?. The answer is no, their fiqh permits nikah of an adult male with a prepubescent female even if she is few months old baby and they have based their rulings on Quran and hadith. The marriage can be consummated with non-baligh wife if she is physically fit to 'endure' sex (according to Sunni sect) or only if she attains the age of nine (according to Shia sect).

Here are references from 20th century Islamic sources ;

Another thing I am sure about is ....... Deobandi, Bareilwi, Sunni, Shia or whatever ... are sects and not Islam. So they can keep chanting kufar fatwas or whatever, it doesn't matter when they simply fail to understand that Sectarianism is grave sin in Quran .... as grave as Shirk.

Most of the traditions and narrations is the work of perverts, discussing sex, women private parts, naked slaves, coitus interruptus, mutta and what not, mostly sex and result of this work is Deobandis, Bareilwi, Sunni, Shia zombies coming up with the most obnoxious questions about sexual acts. They don't have time to worry about and study the creation of this world, this universe, their own creation ............ they are worried if frolicking with their wives is haram or halal. Can they kiss this or that of their wives and what not .....

Yep there you go I said it, those were some real perverts who associated their lies with the innocent Messenger Peace be upon him, His Companions (May ALLAH be pleased with all of them) and his wives (May ALLAH be pleased with all of them), to make their pervert work look authentic and holy ........ These perverts had a brain filled with filth, they keep disgracing and insulting Messenger, his companions and his wives, they not only destroyed Islam's pure message but distorted Islamic history to an extent that people cannot understand the clear verses of Quran now.

Yes I cannot argue with zombie deobandis, Bareilwi, sunni or shia ...... they are zombies, they will believe Tabri and Bukhari more than Quran. They value a perverts opinion and lies more than what Quran has to say ... for me Quran is clear

• Women are not your property
• Marriage is a contract and parties to marriage need to have thinking and decision making ability, who understand their roles and responsibilities
• Don't marry orphans unless they reach the age where they can handle their affairs
• If a Muslim male cannot marry free females, he should marry a slave girl, but that too after getting permission ....... this one is from the time when slavery wasn't fully abolished. People with wisdom would know the reasons why a Muslim male won't be able to marry a Muslim free female ...... it wasn't about sex only, it was a huge responsibility affecting the society

These perverts came up with lies about age of Ayesha (May ALLAH be pleased with her) ....... and that is the single concocted narration they have to commit pedophilia and give it Islamic cover. And I haven't seen these so called Ulema marrying of their own girls at an age of 6 ......... all their stories and fatwas are to prey on and destroy lives of daughters of their zombie followers.

What sort of a father can permit her young 6 or 9 year old daughter to go through the things you mentioned?

Don't you ever wonder why Sodomy happens in Medressahs? Why some peer with huge beard ends up raping women ........ its produce of all this pervert work. All these perverts including Tabri being the leader of this cult would pay for their zulm they did on thousands of young girls. They were Haman and any fatwa giving alim should understand this too and read carefully what Quran has to say about Haman.

If an adult middle aged Muslim man with Pedophilia perversion wants to marry a nine year old girl, then Islam permits him to do so.

Islam doesn't permit this bestiality ....... the permissions and prohibitions are in Quran, outside Quran no one can make anything Halal nor Haram ......... so please nowhere in Quran it is mentioned to marry young girls.

People coming up with religious excuses should get their brains checked .........

 

[Holmes]

SEX culture and no thanks to pimp media rapes are increasing in the world.

 

[Chris Logan]

Pedophillia is degeneracy and should be viewed as such. We can not excuse sexual degeneracy no matter where we are from.