Real poverty in china

[tallboy123]

Why? Because you are entitled to bash China in an international forum like this?

Let me be clear with you, I can tolerate anything Chinese members said about Chinese poverty, and I will never let any Indian insult China over poverty like what is happening here.

u don't have to let them,they are not tied by u,try to defend...U r no one to give them permissions...

 

[blackops]

Why? Because you are entitled to bash China in an international forum like this?

Let me be clear with you, I can tolerate anything Chinese members said about Chinese poverty, and I will never let any Indian insult China over poverty like what is happening here.

if you cant tolerate a debate then why are you here if i want i will talk about poverty in china and you cant stop me from doing that here pakistanis members chinese mebers talk about poverty in my country and i don see it as an insult if you do bye bye then

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u don't have to let them,they are not tied by u,try to defend...U r no one to give them permissions...

he is the secrete mod he will ban us for talking about chinas poverty

 

[Varad]

This is sad. Maybe they are trying to do it to show the world they can overtake the US faster, but realty seems otherwise.

 

[BigTree.CN]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/41970-defence-spending-causes-poverty-india.html

I am glad you are doing your home work, I hope you will find more. And please post all the links here
http://www.defence.pk/forums/members-club/84024-let-us-find-out-one-who-likes-preaching.html

I will do my work in the next few days.

 

[BigTree.CN]

u don't have to let them,they are not tied by u,try to defend...U r no one to give them permissions...

Then the only thing I can say Indian shamelessness is invincible.

 

[Varad]

They have also been accused for GDP manipulations.

China

 

[Mech]

This article was certainly an eye-opener for me. So underneath all that glitz and glamour of shanghai and other metropolitan areas, the real face of China lurks, raw and dead. This is reminiscent of the propaganda peddled by the soviet empire.

The bamboo curtain finally slips a bit, and the world gets a glimpse of the ground realities in China.

Interesting developments indeed.

 

[acetophenol]

Real poverty in china


World Bank calculate people below poverty line as:

A person living under US$ 1.24 per day X 365 days = 456.25 US dollars per year

But, govt. of china calculate people below poverty line as:

A chinese living under US$ 0.32 OR 32 cents per day only.

Chinese norms US$ 181 per year V/s International norms of US $ 456.25 per year.

That means less then half of the the International norms.

In simple words a Chinese earning US$ 182 is a rich according to govt. of china but according to International standard (World Bank/ IMF) he is poor even if his income doubles.

That's the reason that china twisted facts and boast of negligible poverty even when it is having one of the biggest poor population despite of 10%+ growth rate.



Statistics show that by the end of last year, there were about 23.7 million Chinese living under the poverty line. This means they each earned only 1,196 yuan (about 181 U.S. dollars) annually, according to the country's 2009 poverty standard.

Ma Delan's ten water cellars were tightly locked to prevent others from stealing the water stored inside, an extremely precious resource in the city of Wuzhong in northwest China's Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region.

Ma used the cellars to collect rainwater, a common practice in the area. Even though the cellars were often littered with manure and tree branches, a year-long drought in the region meant that Ma's family valued the cellars and the precious water that they held.

At least, that was the case ten years ago, before the Ma family moved to Wuzhong's Hongsibao district, where they live in a new house. Their new home has a bathroom and tap water - things that the family couldn't even dream of having before.

Ma is among more than 300,000 people who have moved to the district over the last decade to escape the harsh environments of their hometowns in other parts of Ningxia.

The region plans to move its poorest people out of these harsh environments over the next five years, and will take another five years after that to boost their incomes to the national average level, according to the region's chairman, Wang Zhengwei.

Statistics show that by the end of last year, there were about 23.7 million Chinese living under the poverty line. This means they each earned only 1,196 yuan (about 181 U.S. dollars) annually, according to the country's 2009 poverty standard.

Over the past decade, the number of Chinese citizens living in poverty has been reduced by nearly 60 percent. However, the government is considering moving the poverty line to 1,500 yuan earned per year, due to price inflation and other factors, according to an official from the Association of Poverty Alleviation and Development (APAD).

Many regions of China, including central Henan Province, already use the 1,500-yuan line to gauge poverty.

By that standard, the number of people living in poverty could explode to more than 100 million, the official from APAD says.

A Tuesday meeting of the Political Bureau of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China (CPC), which was presided over by President Hu Jintao, discussed the development-oriented Poverty Reduction Program for Rural China (2011-2020).

"Expanding the fight against poverty through development projects is an important step to improve the well-being of the people, narrow the income gap and to ensure that all people share the benefits of China's incredible economic growth," said a statement from the meeting.

Addressing poverty is considered to be the key to narrowing China's income gap and balancing the country's unstable development.

Henan Province, which boasts the largest provincial population in China and is home to more than 5 million people living in poverty according to the 1,500-yuan standard, has been attempting to reduce poverty by improving the skills of its workers and encouraging their self-development, says Zhang Chengzhi, director of Henan's poverty alleviation office.

In northwestern Gansu, China's earliest province to conduct poverty reduction programs, planting potatoes and corn is the primary method of boosting its poorest citizens' incomes.

Li Jian, an official from Gansu's poverty alleviation office, said most poor people in the region live in mountainous areas with little access to transportation and infrastructure.

"If disasters or serious illnesses befall these people, poverty reduction progress could fall down to an even worse state," Li says, referring to the difficulty of his job.

Gansu has offered vocational training for the youngest members of poor families and helped them find jobs in cities in order to lift their families out of poverty.

"This practice has become a new trend in poverty reduction," Li says.

Experts suggest that the government should increase its investments in infrastructure projects such as new roads and highways, which will help to improve living standards and encourage industrial development in some of China's poorer areas.

These experts have also suggested developing tourism in China's western regions, such as Yunnan, Sichuan, Xinjiang and Tibet. They say that abundant natural resources in those areas could also be utilized to boost local incomes.

The government should also step up efforts to boost incomes for migrant workers from western China. The area provides about one-fourth of the country's migrant laborers, who typically seek work in big cities and coastal regions.

Labor-intensive companies have also been encouraged to set up factories in the west in order to boost employment there.

China Expands War Against Poverty

Poverty is not the issue of a nation alone. Its a global problem. Its good that china
is taking steps to cure the problem.

 

[Nirvana]

I am glad you are doing your home work, I hope you will find more. And please post all the links here
http://www.defence.pk/forums/members-club/84024-let-us-find-out-one-who-likes-preaching.html

I will do my work in the next few days.

You Did Great Job On That Thread.
Big Applause For MR.BigTree.CN

 

[Mech]

No matter how we measure our poverty, the fact that China is doing better than India stands.

how do we know for certain? In the light of this article i am more inclined to consider Chinese developments as superficial. Now we know all the statistics are intentionally distorted by the Chinese propaganda machine.

 

[President Camacho]

Give me links of threads about Indian poverty started by Chinese members, then we will talk. I am giving you a link of a thread about Chinese poverty started by Indian member.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/106157-real-poverty-china-5.html

I am not so fond of talkin to you that I would go and make an effort for it. If you like the truth, go search yourself and you will find plenty. The need is yours, you do the work.

If you feel unless I do what you say you won't talk to me, then mind you, I don't like getting into such teenage type drama. Don't wanna talk to me - more than fine with me.

This thread is about China, and everyone has the right to speak. Go stop them if you can.

That is an action of defending.

If Indian members didn't offend us by starting thread about Chinese poverty in the first place, no Chinese members would bring Indian poverty into this.

If you don't take starting a thread about Chinese povery as offensive while taking posting information about Indian poverty in a thread started by Indian as offensive, you beat me!

Yes sir!!! All the threads started by the Chinese members about poverty in India are just the efforts to defend China Poor Chinese, they need to point fingers at others to defend themselves... such act in itself verifies the information posted about China.

In the same way, this thread too, is an act of defending... lol You are so funny and you don't even know

Ah, your last statement, can you please simplify that a bit? I am a little weak at English.

 

[Mech]

What hypocrites....lol. They post anti-India articles on a day to day basis and expect us to drink it all in. What does posters like speeder2 and hongwu do other than post anti India comments and articles?


@Chinese members
- Don't get your panties in a knot. Read and move on.

 

[huzihaidao12]

TO this, I really do not want to say anything, do not need. Identified China as a developing country, hope India also can to explain it in an international conference with large sound, thank you.

Incidentally said. you? Solomon2, in? You see, China has a large number of poor people, we certainly are developing countries, India can prove it.

 

[harshad]

Why? Because you are entitled to bash China in an international forum like this?

Let me be clear with you, I can tolerate anything Chinese members said about Chinese poverty, and I will never let any Indian insult China over poverty like what is happening here.

so only good articles relating to china should be posted according to you?
pakistani,chinese,bangladeshi,etc on this forum would never write anything against china its common sence
and chinese members dont have to start thread which shows india in bad light,they are already started by pakistanis and bangladeshis so you just have to search the thread and bash india

 

[huzihaidao12]

Expanding Middle Class to Help Cut Asia's Dependence on Exports, ADB Says - Bloomberg

A lot of information is always contradictory, characteristics of the information society, not funny?