Raymond Davis Case: Developing Story

[logic]

SLAMABAD: The National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Interior has directed the Ministry of Foreign Affairs secretary to ask the US Consulate in Lahore to send their representative to attend a meeting, which will take up the issue of the killing of two youths by
its employee.

The meeting will be held on January 31 in the Parliament House with NA Standing Committee on Interior Chairman MNA Abdul Qadir in the chair. Interior Minister Rehman Malik, the ministry’s secretary and other officials concerned have also been asked to attend the meeting.

The committee has asked the inspector general of Punjab police (IGP), the Lahore district coordination officer (DCO) and capital city police officer (CCPO) to attend the meeting and also ensure the presence of the heirs of the youths killed by Raymond Davis, employee for the US Consulate in Lahore.

Reportedly, the NA body on Interior has also sought a report on the incident. It directed the authorities concerned to provide a comprehensive report on the killings by the American.

It may be recalled that an employee of the US Consulate in Lahore shot dead two youths, while a third was crushed by the driver of a vehicle, who was called by him for help, at Chowk Qartaba on Thursday. app

 

[logic]

LAHORE: Deputy Prosecutor General of Punjab, Rana Bakhtiar said on Sunday that Raymond Davis had fired the bullets from the back thus it was not a case of ‘self defense’ as he had stated earlier.

Rana also said that Davis, charged with murder of two motorcyclists in Lahore, did not hold any special privileges as a diplomat.

Referring to Article 49-2 of the Vienna Convention, he said that diplomatic officials only hold privilege when they are on duty, but Davis was in Pakistan on a business visa.

Davis is being described by the American media as a security contractor from a Florida-based firm, Hyperion Protective Consultants, LLC.

That Foreign Office and the US embassy were not on the same page on the issue of status of the accused was obvious from an FO press release that mentioned Davis as a US ‘functionary’, and not a diplomat.
http://www.dawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Raymond-Davis-543.jpg

 

[VelocuR]

Please pay attention


Important Note:

Rana also said that Davis, charged with murder of two motorcyclists in Lahore, did not hold any special privileges as a diplomat.

Referring to Article 49-2 of the Vienna Convention, he said that diplomatic officials only hold privilege when they are on duty, but Davis was in Pakistan on a business visa.

 

[American Eagle]

The fact is Raymond Davis is under a US Diplomatic Passport and has a valid diplomatic VISA from the Government of Pakistan until mid-2012.

It would be more appropriate if the GOP and of the Government of Punjab Province apologized to Mr. Davis for his being hassled when he is the victum of an attempted threat to his life in a case of armed robbery, which robbers had just a short time earlier, same day, robbed an innocent Pakitani man.

Are they now to go arrest the innocent Pakistani victum of robbery for having reported their crime carried out against him before they tried to rob Raymond Davis?

Mr. Davis defended himself, saved his own life, and has diplomatic immunity. The person who determines which US officials have diplomatic status and immunity is the US Ambassador and the US Dept. of State when the Diplomatic Passport is originally issued and when the host government grants a VISA on the Diplomatic Passport...all of which was properly done and is of official record...not all this mumbo jumbo ranting on this site by children on computers who were born and raised outside of Pakistan who are suddently feeling a cultural pride due to attention to the nation of Pakistan.

They are not living in nor serving as a member of the Pakistani military or a range of public service, health, and welfare jobs they could be doing inside Pakistan if they want to be real Pakistanis and earn the respect of their own native people by livng and working in Pakistan...contributing proactively and positively to a better future of Pakistan.

Real pride in the nation of Pakistan is to support the war on terrorism, stop the Taliban, end the al Qaida forever, and restore law and order and a peaceful religious process which respects and tolerates other religious views and opinions without using a hanged Mr. Bhutto trumped up "blasphemy law" to kill people who you do not like, want to get even with, or who you demand to stop practicing a different religion "because radical Islamics say so."

 

[logic]

RANT ON

The fact is Raymond Davis is under a US Diplomatic Passport and has a valid diplomatic VISA from the Government of Pakistan until mid-2012.

It would be more appropriate if the GOP and of the Government of Punjab Province apologized to Mr. Davis for his being hassled when he is the victum of an attempted threat to his life in a case of armed robbery, which robbers had just a short time earlier, same day, robbed an innocent Pakitani man.

Are they now to go arrest the innocent Pakistani victum of robbery for having reported their crime carried out against him before they tried to rob Raymond Davis?

Mr. Davis defended himself, saved his own life, and has diplomatic immunity. The person who determines which US officials have diplomatic status and immunity is the US Ambassador and the US Dept. of State when the Diplomatic Passport is originally issued and when the host government grants a VISA on the Diplomatic Passport...all of which was properly done and is of official record...not all this mumbo jumbo ranting on this site by children on computers who were born and raised outside of Pakistan who are suddently feeling a cultural pride is attention to a nation they are not living in nor serving as a member of the Pakistani military or a range of public service, health, and welfare jobs they could be doing inside Pakistan if they want to be real Pakistanis and earn the respect of their own native people by livng and working in Pakistan...contributing proactively and positively to a better future of Pakistan.

RANT OFF

Pakistan's Foreign Office, however, has rejected the plea.

'Ramond is not a diplomat and does not enjoy diplomatic immunity. Otherwise, the US officials would not have to even ask for it,' a Foreign Office spokesman was quoted as saying in the media Sunday.

 

[mikkix]

The fact is Raymond Davis is under a US Diplomatic Passport and has a valid diplomatic VISA from the Government of Pakistan until mid-2012.

It would be more appropriate if the GOP and of the Government of Punjab Province apologized to Mr. Davis for his being hassled when he is the victum of an attempted threat to his life in a case of armed robbery, which robbers had just a short time earlier, same day, robbed an innocent Pakitani man.

Are they now to go arrest the innocent Pakistani victum of robbery for having reported their crime carried out against him before they tried to rob Raymond Davis?

Mr. Davis defended himself, saved his own life, and has diplomatic immunity. The person who determines which US officials have diplomatic status and immunity is the US Ambassador and the US Dept. of State when the Diplomatic Passport is originally issued and when the host government grants a VISA on the Diplomatic Passport...all of which was properly done and is of official record...not all this mumbo jumbo ranting on this site by children on computers who were born and raised outside of Pakistan who are suddently feeling a cultural pride is attention to a nation they are not living in nor serving as a member of the Pakistani military or a range of public service, health, and welfare jobs they could be doing inside Pakistan if they want to be real Pakistanis and earn the respect of their own native people by livng and working in Pakistan...contributing proactively and positively to a better future of Pakistan.

davis has a visit visa, tschnical advisor, he is ready to apologise with the victim's family, so forget govt of Pakistan.
The guy may have a link with terrorists, involved in suicode bombings and target killings.
He should be punished, go hell to hue and cry.

 

[American Eagle]

You are using a Pakistani newspaper concocted story to try to make legal judgements?

That is not how international diplomatic law operates.

And Mr. Davis is under a US Diplomatic Passport with a valid granted by the Government of Pakistan VISA on the diplomatic passport authorizing him to be present for duty with the US Embassy in Pakistan as a diplomatic employee of the US Dept. of State and the US Embassy in Islamabad.

 

[logic]

You are using a Pakistani newspaper concocted story to try to make legal judgements?

That is not how international diplomatic law operates.

Lies Lies and more Lies.

The punk is in custody and law will take its course

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Here is how the things will end up in Pakistan:

Davis would be US bound (Pakistan cant keep white American down for long), and Pakistan would save its face by extracting some money for deceased robbers.

so you already decided that they were robbers... well done
indeed he will walk free and fly back to US in the next flight
not because the victims were Pakistanis..
same will happen to Indians or anyone for that matter. So please don’t rub it in..

with a position, power and status of world’s only super power, its really hard to have same set of rules and standards for itself that America will "demand" off the other countries.

just to add salt to the wounds wait till that guy will be given prime time on "Larry King live" and sign book deals and welcomed like a hero on the airport..

this is the way how America shows the middle finger to the rest of the world. and I cant blame it.. what’s the point of being a super power when you cant make other feel miserable & helpless. Just like in our Asian movies when the villain has hero’s family in chain and mocks at his mother and sisters….

And yes I am upset.. But I am resigned to the fact that any country like Pakistan will be made to feel the same way… the Jungle rule reigns supreme till today.

 

[American Eagle]

In fact today, Sunday, Jan. 30, 2011 the Parliament of Pakistan, has a view moving toward the US Ambassador's and US Department of State International Law facts...not as you assert.

The American position clearly fits in with the business principles of Hyperion Protective Consultants.

Their website says that the personnel provided to the customer (US State Department in this case) are hired as the customer’s employees. As such the “legal liabilities reside with the business contracting the service”.

The US embassy statement set aside all diplomatese and not only accused the host government of ‘unlawfully detaining’ its ‘diplomat’, but criticised the remand of the accused given by a judicial magistrate.

“Furthermore, the diplomat was formally arrested and remanded into custody, which is a violation of international norms and the Vienna Convention, to which Pakistan is a signatory,” the embassy statement noted.

 

[pkd]

‘Accused US diplomat holds no special privileges’
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[American Eagle]

The Pakistani National Assembly seems to be facing up to the facts of diplomatic immunity for Raymond Davis, who holds a valid US Department of State Diplomatic Passport with a valid Government of Paksitan Foreign Office VISA thereon.

ISLAMABAD: The National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Interior has directed the Ministry of Foreign Affairs secretary to ask the US Consulate in Lahore to send their representative to attend a meeting, which will take up the issue of the killing of two youths by its diplomatic employee.

The meeting will be held on January 31 in the Parliament House with NA Standing Committee on Interior Chairman MNA Abdul Qadir in the chair. Interior Minister Rehman Malik, the ministry’s secretary and other officials concerned have also been asked to attend the meeting.

The committee has asked the inspector general of Punjab police (IGP), the Lahore district coordination officer (DCO) and capital city police officer (CCPO) to attend the meeting and also ensure the presence of the heirs of the youths killed by Raymond Davis, diplomatic employee for the US Consulate in Lahore.

Reportedly, the NA body on Interior has also sought a report on the incident. It directed the authorities concerned to provide a comprehensive report on the killings by the American.

It may be recalled that a dipomatic employee of the US Consulate in Lahore shot dead two youths, while a third was crushed by the driver of a vehicle, who was called by him for help, at Chowk Qartaba on Thursday. app Sunday January 30, 2011.

 

[AstanoshKhan]

A Georgian diplomat in the US killed a man when his car hit him accidentally and that diplomat was charged 21 years in Prison even though he pleaded for diplomatic immunity and the Georgian Govt was involved too but nothing happened. It happened back in 1996/97 when Bill Clinton was in charge. Since it's an old news but I'll try to find a link or some news evidence to support it.

 

[American Eagle]

We are not talking about a drunk driving case here.

We are talking about armed robbery attempted on the life and limb of a US diplomatic employee of the American Embassy in Pakistan.

Two entirely different scenarios.

 

[Ahmad]

This is something neither the US nor paksitan wanted, we will see where this incident takes the relations between them in the near future.