Raymond Davis Case: Developing Story

[Irfan Baloch]

Where is this information coming from?

that information came from an unkown "citizen" who filed an FIR claiming against those 2 people that Mr Davis had target practice on.

 

[American Eagle]

Recovery of specifically two cell phones and cash just stolen from two Pakistani gentlemen same day as the then failed stick up attempt on Mr. Davis ,with a formal police complaint from the two robbed Pakistanis pin points factually identifying the robbers as Shamshad and Haider the same two who then failed in their robbery attempt on Davis, honestly and accurately depics both Faheem Shamshad and Faizam Haider as public crooks, robbers. Further, the police stated that they we being sought on other prior robberies.

All this made up mumbo jumbo is immature comic books stuff to try to deflect hard public visibility of the history of these two robbers who failed in their armed stick up of Mr. Davis, who is the victum of their failed robbery.

Some in recent posts here admit that these two robbers had a longer crimeinal history in court, in jail, in short, they both had a "record" as criminals.

The way to play down their awful life and record of crime is to recognize that Mr. Davis has Diplomtic Immunity and once he is removed back to the US then the publicizing of the two crooks history of crime will subside and the familes of these two can find peace to no longer be in the public eye.

 

[iPhone]

Recovery of specifically two cell phones and stone cash just stolen from two Pakistani gentlemen same day as failed stick up attempt on Mr. Davis ,with a formal police complaint from the two robbed Pakistanis pin points factually, without made up mumbo jumbo excuses, that the term robbers and crooks honestly and accurately depics both Faheem Shamshad and Faizam Haider as public crooks, robbers. Further, the police stated that they we being sought on other prior robberies.

Some in these most recent posts admit that these two robbers had a longer crime history in court, in jail, in short, they both had a "record" as criminals.

The way to play down their awful life and record of crime is to recognize that Mr. Davis has Diplomtic Immunity and once he is removed back to the US then the publicizing of the two crooks history of crime will subside and the familes of these two can find peace to no longer be in the public eye.

look, once again there is a lot of hearsay information in this which isn't admissable in the courts. Either they were robbers or they weren't, if there were and tried to hold up Davis then he has a very strong case. Also I mentioned earlier that it's impossible for police to cover up their criminal backgrounds if the victims were robbers, there record would be in almost every court and jailhouse.

 

[American Eagle]

Read the facts on this long post...the two robbed Pakistani men are named by the press, even their photos are on this site. Why do the young posters on this site keep telling so many untruths? In today's computerized world no one can cover up published facts that these two were estasblished robbers with criminal court and jail records.

Such false statements are both shameful and suggest more attempts to aid and abet the terrorists who would be in league with robbers to raise money from robberies to fund their terrorists acts which continue in the Lahore area murdering many innocent Pakistani men, women, and children, especailly in recent days at minority sect Muslim shrines where people had peacefully gatherer for religious services.

 

[iPhone]

that information came from an unkown "citizen" who filed an FIR claiming against those 2 people that Mr Davis had target practice on.

if that's where this information is coming from then it's no good. It isn't admisable. A criminal background means arrest record with the police, indictment and conviction records with courts, and sentenced served in jails. No agency can expunge this amount of details to cover up something, they would leave too many trails.

 

[Awesome]

It never ceases to amaze me the fake sinister plots that some "invent" in Pakistan. There are of course trouble making Taliban supporters on this site and they are most likely the root cause of these wild west stories

You need to go give George W. Bush a hug for resorting to petty scaremongering of terrorists... Non-terrorists can disagree and oppose Americans as well... In Pakistan its high time to fight Taliban and Americans both, both are using Pakistan as a playground to settle their fight.

Now that investigation is opening up the lies around the cellphone robbery (where are the two gentlemen who got robbed?). It even turns out the cases belonging to another individual are being passed off as "Faizan's case".

Made up? I've posted a link with every single post of mine, its more than what the Americans and their loyalists can say about their debating skills.

It's the disappearing act of the vanishing WMDs again, say anything and then slap the word terrorist and scare the world into believing your weak theories.

 

[iPhone]

Read the facts on this long post...the two robbed Pakistani men are named by the press, even their photos are on this site. Why do the young posters on this site keep telling so many untruths? In today's computerized world no one can cover up published facts that these two were estasblished robbers with criminal court and jail records.

Such false statements are both shameful and suggest more attempts to aid and abet the terrorists who would be in league with robbers to raise money from robberies to fund their terrorists acts which continue in the Lahore area murdering many innocent Pakistani men, women, and children, especailly in recent days at minority sect Muslim shrines where people had peacefully gatherer for religious services.

how would the press know who is criminal and who isn't? where are they getting their information from? the police? then that means the data is available to public and the police can't cover it up, and they should've come out by now and released the criminals pedigree information.

All I'm saying is, police is the authentic source in this, no newspaper or member on this forum (unless from lahore police) can tell if the victims were criminals. And I find it really hard to believe the police is hiding facts, because it's impossible to hide someone's criminal background, and in this case they are digging their grave if they are.

 

[Leviza]

Recovery of specifically two cell phones and cash just stolen from two Pakistani gentlemen same day as the then failed stick up attempt on Mr. Davis ,with a formal police complaint from the two robbed Pakistanis pin points factually identifying the robbers as Shamshad and Haider the same two who then failed in their robbery attempt on Davis, honestly and accurately depics both Faheem Shamshad and Faizam Haider as public crooks, robbers. Further, the police stated that they we being sought on other prior robberies.

All this made up mumbo jumbo is immature comic books stuff to try to deflect hard public visibility of the history of these two robbers who failed in their armed stick up of Mr. Davis, who is the victum of their failed robbery.

Some in recent posts here admit that these two robbers had a longer crimeinal history in court, in jail, in short, they both had a "record" as criminals.

The way to play down their awful life and record of crime is to recognize that Mr. Davis has Diplomtic Immunity and once he is removed back to the US then the publicizing of the two crooks history of crime will subside and the familes of these two can find peace to no longer be in the public eye.

what a rubbish comment .....

CIA personal is caught red handed with spying equipments..... Pakistani FO never issue any diplomatic status to him and still you and your media saying same thing again and again and totally forgetting to say anything about that 2nd US LC CAR which killed 1 person and injured 3 others....

 

[Awesome]

Pak Govt freeing Davis may be "last straw that breaks camel's back": Hilaly

If the Pakistan Government hands over double murder-accused American official Raymond Davis to the United States without sufficiently preparing public opinion on this sensitive issue, it may face a major backlash, eventually leading to its downfall, retired Pakistan envoy Zafar Hilaly has said.

"It's become such a huge [issue]," The Christian Science Monitor quoted Hilaly, as saying.

"There's a feeling, not without reason, that it might be the last straw that breaks the camel's back," he added.

Davis was arrested last month for shooting two men on motorcycle from his car in a lower-middle class area of Lahore.

The incident sparked widespread protests and has played into the hands of conservative religious parties, with many Pakistanis believing Davis to be a US spy. The matter has dominated headlines, which have focused on the fact that Davis had surveillance equipment and an unlicensed semiautomatic weapon on him at the time of his arrest.

The Pakistan Government, wary of popular backlash in the country, has maintained that the court should be allowed to carry out its own process, while the US has insisted upon Davis's return on the grounds on diplomatic immunity.

However, Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani candidly admitted this week that his government was "just caught between the devil and the deep sea" on Davis' detention issue.

"We are facing difficult decisions. There is a political price. If we take it then the people do not support and if we don't do it the world does not support," Gilani told Ulema and Mashaikh, who had gathered at the National Seerat Conference from across the country.We are just caught between the devil and the deep sea. This needs wisdom. We will do whatever is in the interest of the country and the nation," he added. (ANI)

 

[American Eagle]

The due process of law entails the hard fact that Raymond Davis has full Diplomatic Immunity. Period.

Beyond that a legal process exists in the US whereby the US Dept. of Justice that will determine what the facts of the incident were and are, objectively, honestly, and fairly, without cries of "hang the bum" from overseas Pakistanis who are not even living and working inside Pakistan to help build the currently weak democracy there into a strong, robust democracy.

Therefore, politely but strongly meant, some of you who continue to jump on the theme of bash Mr. Davis are out of sequence in your level of understanding and are very premature.

Mr. Davis has to first be removed from Pakistan via Diplomatic Immunity, as vouched for by none other than President Obama on live TV interview this week now ending here in the US.

Diplomatic Immunity has nothing to do with your misconcepts or self version of how you would wish Mr. Davis to be handled and treated.

 

[Leviza]

The due process of law entails the hard fact that Raymond Davis has full Diplomatic Immunity. Period.

Beyond that a legal process exists in the US whereby the US Dept. of Justice that will determine what the facts of the incident were and are, objectively, honestly, and fairly, without cries of "hang the bum" from overseas Pakistanis who are not even living and working inside Pakistan to help build the currently weak democracy there into a strong, robust democracy.

Therefore, politely but strongly meant, some of you who continue to jump on the theme of bash Mr. Davis are out of sequence in your level of understanding and are very premature.

Mr. Davis has to first be removed from Pakistan via Diplomatic Immunity, as vouched for by none other than President Obama on live TV interview this week now ending here in the US.

Diplomatic Immunity has nothing to do with your misconcepts or self version of how you would wish Mr. Davis to be handled and treated.

MR Davis is a killer and there is no immunity ..............


Pakistani FO never issued any such documents to give this killer a diplomatic status

After Dr. Afia case no one in Pakistan trust US Dept. of Justice

 

[Irfan Baloch]

The due process of law entails the hard fact that Raymond Davis has full Diplomatic Immunity. Period.

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so what about the killer driver who ran away? does dplomatic immunity extends to crushing people to death and then running away from the scene too?

 

[Awesome]

Mr. Davis has to first be removed from Pakistan via Diplomatic Immunity, as vouched for by none other than President Obama on live TV interview this week now ending here in the US.

Obama's opinions means squat to us. American justice system means squat to us.

This has now taken the shape of a people's movement. Perhaps now you'll only see Taliban as the people of Pakistan, but that won't be anything new, in fact such stereotyping is quite American.

We have actual evidence of guilt, we have no presentation of immunity papers from the Pakistani FO, we have only demanded he go to trial, and expose all these hair brained theories of ours as false and uphold the truth, justice and American way!

If your man is immune, then present those papers. If your man is innocent then fight in court. There is no door #3 where you can say "We say he is immune and he's innocent and he won't go to court".

 

[Pak_Sher]

The due process of law entails the hard fact that Raymond Davis has full Diplomatic Immunity. Period.

Beyond that a legal process exists in the US whereby the US Dept. of Justice that will determine what the facts of the incident were and are, objectively, honestly, and fairly, without cries of "hang the bum" from overseas Pakistanis who are not even living and working inside Pakistan to help build the currently weak democracy there into a strong, robust democracy.

Therefore, politely but strongly meant, some of you who continue to jump on the theme of bash Mr. Davis are out of sequence in your level of understanding and are very premature.

Mr. Davis has to first be removed from Pakistan via Diplomatic Immunity, as vouched for by none other than President Obama on live TV interview this week now ending here in the US.

Diplomatic Immunity has nothing to do with your misconcepts or self version of how you would wish Mr. Davis to be handled and treated.

The covert operation by CIA and Blackwater under the Vienna Conevtion have just ended, period. Enough abuse by the US of the diplomatic immunity, which has been revoked.

Americans carried Gitmo prisoners and used UK Airports not telling them.

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Enough of this US lawlessness and abuse of diplomatic immuinity. Davis a trained special forces guy and he should pay for his actions.

 

[The HBS Guy]

Obama's opinions means squat to us. American justice system means squat to us.

This has now taken the shape of a people's movement. Perhaps now you'll only see Taliban as the people of Pakistan, but that won't be anything new, in fact such stereotyping is quite American.

We have actual evidence of guilt, we have no presentation of immunity papers from the Pakistani FO, we have only demanded he go to trial, and expose all these hair brained theories of ours as false and uphold the truth, justice and American way!

If your man is immune, then present those papers. If your man is innocent then fight in court. There is no door #3 where you can say "We say he is immune and he's innocent and he won't go to court".

Pakistan has ratified the Vienna Convention in 1972.

In other words, the Vienna Convention IS Pakistan's law too.

BTW, Obama's laws may not mean much to you but his $$$ do and you know that very well.