Rape of Germany after it lost in 1945

[Desert Fox]

Hi,

From the start of incursion to the gates of Moscow---the germans slaughtered the Russians and butchered them for no reason.

It was a war. Everyone was butchering everyone. Churchill starved to death 4 million indians. America dropped WMD's on civilian populated cities TWICE and firebombed German and Japanese cities.Stalin starved his own people to death through scorched earth policy.

Germans are lucky that they survived the Russian conquest. In all European countries did jews enjoy many a rights till those countries turned on them.

Are you telling me the Jews are responsible for everyone hating them after having welcomed them with open arms??

But here is the bottomline---the germans slaughtered jews and if was not for them---there would have been no force behind the cause to create a homeland for the jews in Israel.

Read the Balfour declaration. Israel's creation was already established unofficially 20 years before Hitler came to power in Germany. You should really check historical facts before coming off as a fool (just a friendly advice).

S0---the germans need to pay by giving their land to the palestinians and create a Palestinian state.

Let the jews play with the numbers of dead----that is between them and the conscience of Europe----my thing is that the germans killed the jews and a separate nation was created for the jews out of muslim land---whereas a separate nation should have been created out of german land.

So Muslims back stabbed Ottoman Empire in 1917 and gave Palestine to the Jews and you want Germany to pay for that? lol that makes absolutely no sense at all. I think you do live in a parallel universe or something.

From 1923 to 1953 in the USSR were executed 640,000 people. These are the official data from the archives.
The Nazis, we can safely say, created the word "propaganda". Goebbels was a genius of the case. They even told that Red Army is bombing Soviet cities, to put the blame on the Germans.
It is very easy to be deceived, especially if you believe Western propaganda machine, which inherits the "best traditions" of doctor Goebbels.
When the Red Army entered the territory of the Reich, the soldiers began to take revenge on the Germans. However, later it was introduced the death penalty for rape and looting.
The death penalty. The Red Army had an iron discipline.

It is also Western propaganda that Hitler killed 17 million Russians but you believe that right?

 

[Psychic]

Churchill starved to death 4 million indians.

Surprisingly, 4 million dead Bengalis does not get attention of appologists of allied war crimes (not a single one of them here).
Perhaps they weren't as human as Jews for whoom they have all their sympathies.

 

[Desert Fox]

Surprisingly, 4 million dead Bengalis does not get attention of appologists of allied war crimes (not a single one of them here).
Perhaps they weren't as human as Jews for whoom they have all their sympathies.

Most of these people here could care less about the "six million" Jews even. They only parrot that line because they know their masters today are the Jews who run their financial institutions and thus control their politics and governments. Israel is doing today to the Palestinians what the Nazis did to the Jews and Russians 62 years ago. But none of these hypocrites dare voice a criticism against Israel but rather openly support it. Thus i can assure you that if events turned against Jews today as they did 70 years ago these same hypocrites will shed their masks and start openly calling for the death of Jews.

They are only afraid to criticize Jews because they know who their daddy is. Anyhow, more White boys to be sacrificed for Israel's wars against Muslim countries. I'm not complaining anymore because Islam will end up taking over Europe and maybe that isn't such a bad thing after all considering that these pathetic Europeans are always willing to join their daddy israel in destabilizing Muslim countries and murdering millions of Muslims.

 

[MastanKhan]

Read the Balfour declaration. Israel's creation was already established unofficially 20 years before Hitler came to power in Germany. You should really check historical facts before coming off as a fool (just a friendly advice).
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Hi,

So---big deal about Balfour declaration---after the atrocities were committed by the germans during ww2----the land could have easily been taken away from the german as a punishment----.

 

[Desert Fox]

Hi,

So---big deal about Balfour declaration---after the atrocities were committed by the germans during ww2----the land could have easily been taken away from the german as a punishment----.

Arabs gave that land to the British who then gave that land to Israel.

 

[Psychic]

Hi,

So---big deal about Balfour declaration---after the atrocities were committed by the germans during ww2----the land could have easily been taken away from the german as a punishment----.

Jews wanted to return to Holy lands, not settle anywhere the Brits wanted them to. That was what Zionism was about.

Even if part of German land was given to Jews, Jews would have never accepted that. They did not accept resource rich Uganda where there was no one to oppose them either.

It is absurd to blame Israel on Germans instead of the real culprits(Arabs and British).

 

[vostok]

It is also Western propaganda that Hitler killed 17 million Russians but you believe that right?

Why will I believe Western propaganda? To me, Germany (including Nazi) - the same part of the West, as the British Empire, or Pax Americana.
Here is the demograthic data.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Wars should be fought between men, no civilians involved, but that's far from reality.

 

[Desert Fox]

Why will I believe Western propaganda? To me, Germany (including Nazi) - the same part of the West, as the British Empire, or Pax Americana.
Here is the demograthic data.
View attachment 243828

Based on what source is that information?

 

[IrbiS]

Jews wanted to return to Holy lands, not settle anywhere the Brits wanted them to. That was what Zionism was about.

Even if part of German land was given to Jews, Jews would have never accepted that. They did not accept resource rich Uganda where there was no one to oppose them either.

It is absurd to blame Israel on Germans instead of the real culprits(Arabs and British).

Zionists already had a deal with brits regarding Holy Lands

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

The sex crazed Russian soldiers repeated bestiality of Mongols in rape of 8-80 year old women after occupation. Stalin dismissed the complaints saying that the Red Army soldiers are having some fun after the long war.

 

[vostok]

Based on what source is that information?

Сервис хранения информации @ EX.UA
This book for specialists was published by the Russian Academy of Sciences in 1993. The authors used data from the Central Statistical Office of the USSR.
Wikipedia uses the data from this book.

 

[Desert Fox]

Сервис хранения информации @ EX.UA
This book for specialists was published by the Russian Academy of Sciences in 1993. The authors used data from the Central Statistical Office of the USSR.
Wikipedia uses the data from this book.

The link is in Russian and does not go straight to the number of war casualties. Could you provide the direct link to the exact number of Soviet Casualties?

I'm not doubting the number that 14 million Soviet civilians were killed during the war due to various war related factors. However your claim that this number is true just because its comes from a Soviet source but its false that 2 million women were raped by Red Army soldier because it comes from a Western source is hypocritical on your part.

 

[vostok]

The link is in Russian and does not go straight to the number of war casualties. Could you provide the direct link to the exact number of Soviet Casualties?

I'm not doubting the number that 14 million Soviet civilians were killed during the war due to various war related factors. However your claim that this number is true just because its comes from a Soviet source but its false that 2 million women were raped by Red Army soldier because it comes from a Western source is hypocritical on your part.

It was Goebbels' propaganda, which was later adopted by the Western propagandists (many Nazis later worked in the US, you should know).
In what language do you think should be on official statistics of the USSR? In Russian. Wikipedia has all the numbers are based on official sources. Demographics of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You know, I would not mind if the Soviet soldiers raped two million German women and murdered 10 million civilians, or even 20 million. It would be justice, it would be retaliation. Unfortunately, the official order of Stalin by 19 January 1945 prohibits all forms of violence against civilians.
Those who do not obey Stalin's orders were executed in front of their comrades. The Red Army had the most severe discipline.

 

[Styx]

guys, war is ugly.. the great was was greatly ugly.

don't anyone fool themselves for 1 minute that NATO troops haven't committed horrible atrocities in the name of spreading "freedom and democracy" in their recent and still ongoing wars in Iraq/Afghanistan.

I thank the Russians for ridding the world of the nazis and their disgusting genocidal ideology at great human cost to themselves.