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A new platform "nanny" for Rafale

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This is not necessarily the equipment as "sexy" Rafale, but it must also go through a renovation project: the car refueling aircraft used by the Naval Aviation and will undergo a course of youth under the future standard F3-R, the Notification must be made in the coming days.

Baptized Narang (Platform new generation refueling), this program should be attributed to the French industrial INTERTECHNIQUE (Zodiac Group), already a supplier of some of the refueling pods currently in service in Naval Aviation. It has a score of these systems to equip its Rafale and Super Etendard, but only a portion should be retained at the end of this renovation project.

The idea is to increase the reliability of the car, while improving its performance especially in terms of flow of kerosene, this variable determines the speed at which the airplane "receiver" can be supplied with fuel. The integration system of the aircraft should also be further.

Other solutions were studied, such as buying a U.S. nacelle Cobham 1,000 liters (notably used by the U.S. Navy on its Super Hornet), but this option would need to carry out new (and expensive) work of integration aeromechanical. The renovated Rafale nacelle therefore reuse the same external than the current system shell.

Regularly used by the Naval Aviation operations in this configuration the Rafale "nanny" are also interested in potential export customers. India already uses a similar system on its Su-30, with a gondola that would have been provided by Cobham.

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Air&Cosmos 2386s, Dec 13:

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Rafale : preparing for the future ; page 16-19, excerpts:

*Active antenna, versatility, data fusion , the Rafale is undeniably a step ahead of its European competitors [...] And now?

*In the coming days must be notified to Dassault and its partners the development contract for the new F3- R standard , [...] which will modernize all Rafale delivered to France .[...]

*The new standard will improve the aircraft in 2 main areas: air-to-air and ground targets targeting [...] But the F3R standard is not limited to the PDL-NG and Meteor , other changes are planned [new link 16; IFF Mode 5 , new buddy refueling pod ] [... ] and some improvements on electronic warfare and radar will be integrated in 2016 and 2017. DGA wants to qualify the F3R standard by mid-2018.

* But the DGA , the industry and the operationals are already preparing the next move, the following standard should be qualified by 2023 [...], 2 pillars are emerging for this future standard ; one focuses on the development and integration of modernized missiles ( New MICA , SCALP , ASMP /A ) and the other on interoperability.


* Many research studies ( PEA ) are underway to ripen the technologies needed for this future F4 : AESA performance improvement, SPECTRA performance improvement , increased connectivity , reduction of the total cost of ownership ... And later , the future midlife update, by 2030, will bring up various hardware improvements : new cockpit, stealth kit ...

What is still missing ?

Despite its european lead , Rafale still has a few shortcomings, most of which should be corrected by 2020.

- Reduction of collateral damage: Rafale needs a precision weaponry with lower collateral damage. Sagem proposes to integrate a light version of the AASM (125 kg) while MBDA offers the integration of Brimstone . The two manufacturers could also join forces for the development of a new mini missile if the fiscal situation improves...

- The insufficient resolution of the current targeting pod will be corrected with the new PDL-NG .

- Lack of HMD: nothing is planned before 2020 unless India (or another export customer) joins France to integrate a new HMD; answer in 2014 perhaps.

F3.3 -> F3.4+ (in french)
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The Rafale on the runway in Qatar?

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On 23 June the new emir of Qatar, Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad Al Thani, could announce during his visit to Paris have selected the Rafale.


June 23 could be a very important date for the Rafale. Why? The new emir of Qatar, Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad Al Thani, should come this day in Paris, according to several sources. It could announce on this occasion have chosen the French fighter aircraft and enter into exclusive negotiations with Dassault Aviation in stride. This is what all the tricolor military aerospace industrial sector hopes. Just as the defense minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, who built the military program law (LPM) on an export contract of the fighter and François Hollande, who will roll out the red carpet to Sheikh Al Thani during his stay.

Especially at present there blows a wind of optimism in the ranks of the industrial sector, surveyed in recent days by the Tribune. "Everything is ready, just as Qatar presses the button," says one of them. And specify a year or will take to finalize a much less complex than negotiated contract in India.

Resumption of negotiations in March

Discussions between France and Qatar had resumed since March after a period Doha had shelved the issue. For about three months, the Qataris had given no sign of life on the Rafale. However, in Paris, during this period, industrial and state did not seem too worried by the silence. "Must register in time with Doha, they have their own tempo," they explained in "La Tribune ".

And it was in March that the Qataris have finally resumed talks with Team Rafale (Dassault Aviation, Thales and Safran) asking new questions about the fighter. Including the price of the device according to the volume of a possible (12, 24, 36, 72 Rafale) to better understand the cost structure of the fighter.

72 combat aircraft

Twelve aircraft - Mirage 2000-5 - Qatar would increase its fleet of combat aircraft to 72, a first batch of 36 In any case it is hoped that Doha last summer.. A customer who has anyway afford 72 combat aircraft. In this context, the emirate had sent last August a tender (Request for Proposal) to three candidates: Dassault Aviation, Lockheed Martin and the Eurofighter consortium. According to an informal schedule, Qatar had to choose a supplier for a first batch of 36 aircraft by the end of 2013 and then enter with the manufacturer of exclusive negotiations. Dassault Aviation took the rope for the first batch.

But the schedule slipped in particular because of the strange game Americans. Mid-September, London, which offers Eurofighter Typhoon, and Paris, which supports the Rafale (Dassault Aviation), had made their offer in accordance with the timetable set by Doha. But not Washington. Suddenly, the two envelopes containing the bids of Eurofighter consortium (BAE Systems, EADS and Italy's Finmeccanica) and Dassault Aviation have stayed several months at the bottom of a trunk before being unsealed ... once the response of Americans réceptionnée by Qataris. Curiously, the United States did not finally proposed the F-35, according to several sources.

The challenge of exporting Jean-Yves Le Drian

In the construction of the LPM, export the Rafale is a gamble for Jean-Yves Le Drian. Not a contract is inaccessible. Far from it. But when will he signed to release some leeway for the defense budget? Of course everyone thinks of India, which could complete negotiations with Dassault Aviation in Delhi 2015. Chose the New Rafale in January 2012 after a call for tenders for 126 units and an option of 63 additional aircraft. And why not Qatar could choose a standard near the French Rafale. It is also very possible that France associates Qatar development of the device within a broader and very close cooperation between the two countries.

In short, the minister made a sacred bet by entering the delivery of only 26 Rafale 2014-2019. The ministry can we reduce the number of deliveries of combat aircraft fixed at 11 units per year, or around 1 billion per year? A priori, but not to expose themselves to very heavy penalties. "The contract stipulates the annual delivery of eleven Rafale, recalled last fall Delegate General for Armaments, Laurent Collet-Billon. This is the rate minimum set under industrial continuity and the ability of suppliers to Dassault to produce the necessary equipment. "

26 Rafale delivered between 2014 to 2019 the French air force

The CA ensures the delivery of 11 Rafale in 2014 and 2015. Afterwards, it is the challenge of export had already made the previous majority with only four aircraft delivered in 2016. Dassault Aviation CEO, Eric Trappier had estimated that the first Rafale could be delivered to India three years after the signing of the contract. In 2018 when the contract was signed in 2015. Finally, if the predictions of LPM in terms of export were not meeting the ministry predicted the end of 2015 an appointment for the update if necessary. Or a review clause.
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p.s WTF 3 years after signing the contract india would get his 1st rafale {F U trappier:rofl:)

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BLU-111 bomb bodies can now be used on Rafale M

Price daring 2014 Interview DGA winner for innovation on the bomb BLU-111

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Can you introduce your innovation?

Turntables protection BLU-111 sub tribombe (PPBT) are protective cushions that ensure the carriage of the BLU-111 bomb under the Rafale. Tests conducted with this bomb body had not been satisfactory so far. Mechanical interfaces were damaging the lining of the bomb and did not allow to keep the clamps on that plane. This invention has the advantage of addressing these two issues. Indeed, thanks to it, the body bombs BLU-111 can now be used on the Rafale. The parts are, by their forms, distribute the clamping force on the bomb and coating it will not be damaged.

How did you get that idea?

This is a subject that is not new but had remained neutral. It had been years that these problems pavement deterioration and loss of clamping were discussed but it was not moving ... So I decided to look into the matter.

What were the different stages of the project?

Early reflections back to January 2013, with a first drawing and first prototype developed with the Boilermakers engineering. Participatory Innovation Mission (PIM), interested in the project, has agreed to fund up to € 25,000. We have, thanks to this support, making parts conform to the aircraft manufacturing process. We made a first set on a bomb to embark on a Rafale. We then proceeded to test the ground in the first half of 2013, and flight tests in July and September of the same year. They gave satisfaction. It was at this time that we took the promising aspect of the project.

We decided to go further in testing and manufacture four additional games improved. Trials were held in January 2014 with the completion of a test firing Rafale. Then, in April 2014, we conducted flight tests of landing and catapult to verify that the system worked from the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle, operational base from which this ammunition is used.

-Is this the first time you develop equipment for the DGA?

No! In principle in our business, we can not conceive of weapons materials. We qualification of weapon equipment whether it is suitable or not for use by the military, or we manage the provision of resources for industrial trials. By dint of these test equipment, our expert advice urges us to find solutions when we see they are not suitable. This was already the case for pipes bombs GBU-49 Mirage 2000D that are specific to France, which are in use today and have been developed on the site of DGA Testing Site Cazaux flight by the same personal.

You received on May 28 the price of Audacity, how do you feel?

I am proud, although initially I was not aware that there was a price match! And I'll be happy to repeat the experience. It's very rewarding to develop innovations. Beyond the fact of receiving a prize, where I am mostly satisfied, is to have found a solution to a problem.

A word, finally, about the evolution of this invention?

These tests are an important step in raising risks necessary before the series of this equipment will allow the Rafale to retain its ability "bomb general use." Since then, the DGA is also transitioning into a contract with a manufacturer to produce parts in series. In principle, by the end of 2014, the material will be produced in series.

The price of Audacity, what is it?

The 11th award ceremony of Daring 2014 took place on May 28 at the Ecole Militaire in Paris. The prize is awarded every two years by the Maréchal Leclerc foundation Hauteclocque. This is the mission that ensures participative organization of this award innovation. Its purpose? Reward innovative projects for the French armed forces. These inventions distinguished then lead to the development of practical solutions to operational need.

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please anyone can provide me a comparison between RBE-2 and ES-05 in Gripen
some people say ES-05 is stronger
anyone have answer??
 
Does someone know the breakdown of Rafale versions?

I know Rafale M is a sea based version. What about versions B,C, F2 & F3.
 
Rafale: Thales reduces the loop of information
Published on 03/27/2015 at 10:37 by Jean-Marc Tanguy
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Commissioned in 2011, the Reco NG pod allows the collection of digital images at high and low altitude, high speed shooting day and night as well as video surveillance. It is constantly updated.the version deployed to Iraq © JL Brunet - Air Army
The speed of diffusion loop and processing information acquired by airborne sensors is essential for efficient operations. Responding to an upstream study plan (PEA) of the DGA notified in April 2014, Thales has developed a solution so that the Rafale can transmit much faster than before the images of his Reco-NG reconnaissance pod.

Rapid transmission of information taken from a theater to a command center and control (C2) allows decision making and therefore many fast action. Dubbed Daétris, the solution developed by Thales responds to a need expressed following the operations in Libya and Mali.

Reco-NG pod Rafale already has a wireless transmission capacity of its image stream (TMA6000) collected during reconnaissance. Problem: this transmission was limited in scope. The aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle or deployed an advanced ground base can pick the Rafale pod images up to a distance of 150 to 200 km, still well before the return of the aircraft to the ground.Remains that beyond this distance, the Rafale can not be transmitted, with the risk of real loss of interest information captured by the Rafale, especially in "time sensitive target."

Thanks to the solution of Thales, the pod will now send its output to a flying tanker aircraft with an additional antenna. On board, a SAIM bracket (support system multisensor interpretation) will be installed with an operator who will select the most relevant images in order not to saturate the binding of tanker SATCOM (already in place), which has a slower rate.

The images can then be received in record time by one before C2 (deployed in the theater) and rear (air operations center in Lyon Mont Verdun), as well as the intelligence community (DRM DGSE, etc). Thales believes that time to gain a factor of 4, which in a military context provides a significant advantage.

Flights aboard a tanker strategic air forces will power next summer for a trial 12-month campaign of experiments conducted by the EHIC (flight test center Military).

Especially such a solution opens new horizons, and Rafale could, for example, transmit video images of a targeting pod. The Airbus MRTT will it, comes standard with this ability.
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ELECTRONIC WARFARE FOR COMBAT PLATFORMS - OPERATIONAL CONCEPTS & SUPPORTS
a very rare pdf gives a good understanding about EW concepts about Rafale & Mirage 2000

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India will not ink the mega $20 billion MMRCA (medium multi-role combat aircraft) project to acquire 126 fighters till France agrees to stick to its original pricing, which led its Rafale fighter to defeat the Eurofighter Typhoon in commercial evaluation over three years ago.

This is India's "bottom line" on which the outcome of long-drawn final negotiations with French aviation major Dassault now hinges, even as Prime Minister Narendra Modi is all set to leave for France on Thursday as part of his three-nation tour.

"Dassaulthas to adhere to its earlier commitments. No Indian government can finalize such a major project if the L-1 (lowest bidder) pricing is changed... it can be a deal-breaker despite political pressure from France," said a top source.

As first reported by TOI, the defence ministry is upset with Dassault's attempt to "change the price line" because it will substantially jack up the production cost of the 108 Rafales to be made by Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) in India after the first 18 are imported.

As per Dassault's costing, there is now a "big jump in the man-hours needed" for each jet to be produced by HAL after transfer of technology. In effect, each jet will now cost much more than what was originally projected.

"Hypothetically, if the cost of each jet goes up by around Rs 30-40 crore, we will then be looking at a hike of Rs 3,240-Rs 4,320 crore for the 108 jets to be made here. Dassault should relent, become fully compliant to the RFP (request for proposal) and stand 100% by its original offer. It can live with a slightly lesser profit margin," said the source.

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There is, however, progress on the other major stumbling block. A mechanism is being evolved to ensure there are no penalties or liquidity damages imposed on Dassault if HAL fails to deliver as per specified timelines, sources said.

The voluminous MMRCA contract was almost 90% done, with technology transfer, offsets and other issues as well as the inter-governmental agreement all ready, when pricing and guarantee issues stalled negotiations almost a year ago.

With continuing delay in finalization of the MMRCA project and IAF down to just 34 fighter squadrons (14 of them made of old MiG-21s and MiG-27s), India is also trying to fast-track the stealth fifth-generation fighter aircraft project with Russia, as reported by TOI earlier.

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India has told Russia it wants deliveries of the FGFA to begin 36 months after the main contract is inked, instead of the 94 months envisaged earlier. For this, India is ready to switch from the original co-development and co-production plan to direct acquisition of an initial lot followed by co-production. India will spend around $25 billion on the FGFA project if eventually 127 such fighters as planned.
 
Rafale deal will bring oxygen to Indian Air Force: Manohar Parrikar


Panaji: A day after Prime Minister announced that India will buy 36 Rafale jets from [] on Saturday said that the country has finally broken the ice over the deal which had been pending for the last 17 years.



The deal struck with France will bring some relief to the Indian Air Force into which they will be inducted within two years, Parrikar said.




He further hailed the deal to buy Rafale jets from France as a “great decision taken on the terms and conditions that are better”.

"Indian Air Force will get minimum oxygen (relief) it required with this deal...In fact we have not purchased any major new generation aircraft in (last) 17 years.”

“Procuring 36 planes for two squadrons is an extremely positive decision which was needed," Parrikar told a news agency here.

Modi had yesterday said in Paris that India will buy 36 Rafale fighter jets in flyaway condition from France at the earliest by "keeping in view the critical operational necessity of fighter aircraft in India."

"The RFP (Request for Proposal) procedure for procuring these aircraft had been dragging on for several years. This was started in 2000 and still it was not getting completed because of a lot of confusion so I am very happy that the PM has taken the initiative," Parrikar said.

He said the fighter jets will be inducted into IAF within a span of two years, adding the ice has been finally broken over the deal.

Parrikar did not give any reasons why it will take up to a maximum of two years for inducting these much-needed fighters into IAF.

Experts feel that time may be needed for further price negotiations and refitting the aircraft in tune with Indian requirements. While the government-to-government negotiations may have ended, the forces may have to fine-tune the deal with the manufacturers Dassault.

Parrikar said after the initial purchase of 36 Rafale aircraft, the country will have more such planes under "Make in India initiative or Rafale kind of mechanism."

The minister said Rafale is the fourth generation aircraft which will add up to the old generation fighter planes like MiG21, MiG27 and Su30 which are currently with India.

"We have old generation aircraft which are upgraded and with limited life. In fact, MiG 21 is at the fag end of its life," he added. The Defence Minister said Rafale's induction into the IAF may take two years "as 'fly away' does not mean we will get them tomorrow".

"It has to be designed as per India's need," Parrikar said, adding negotiations will be held over their pricing, which are currently valued at Rs 700 crore.

"We need some lighter type of single-engine kind of aircraft, but we also need deep penetration double-engine aircraft which has latest technology and other equipment which can give India a decisive edge over its traditional enemies," the minister said.

He said the purchase of 36 aircraft is for filling in the immediate gap.

Noting that Light Combat aircraft Tejas will undergo final flight testing next month, he said, 'Make In India' is a long-term solution for India's Air Force strength.

"We have to push the development of Tejas and we have to also ensure that we could build some high grade aircraft," Parrikar said.

The Indian Air Force had shortlisted Rafale for induction into its frontline combat fleet, replacing the ageing Soviet-era MiG-21 squadron but the deal did not materialise for long.

The original deal, with an estimated cost of USD 20 billion, was for delivery of 126 fighters, including 18 off-the-shelf by Dassault, and 108 to be manufactured in India under licensed production by the state-run Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) over time, with 50 percent offset obligations to benefit the domestic aerospace industry.

The IAF opted for the twin-engined Rafale in January 2012 over Eurofighter Typhoon of the European consortium EADS Cassidian after outsmarting F-16 of American Lockheed Martin, F/A-18 of Boeing, MiG-35 of Russian United Aircraft Corp and Swedish SAAB's Gripen in a global competitive bid floated in August 2007.

Rafale deal will bring oxygen to Indian Air Force: Manohar Parrikar | Zee News
 
Rafale jet fighters: Why Dassault deal is not simply a win-lose situation for India

By Admiral Arun Prakash (Retd)

The Indian decision to purchase 36 Rafalemulti-role jet fighters from France in 'fly-away' condition will no doubt redress a critical inventory gap for the Indian Air Force (IAF) but it may turn out to be a Pyrrhic victory for French aerospace giant Dassault Aviation rather than the 'coup' it is being made out to be. This is a complex issue, with serious implications for India's security and cannot be viewed in simplistic win-lose terms.......

.......The hiatus in conclusion of the Rafale contract has led to conjecture in the media, perhaps fuelled by losers in the MMRCA competition.:lol: Apart from picking holes in the Rafale, some commentators have castigated the IAF for a flawed force-planning process, focusing on three issues: the high cost of the Rafale, especially when compared to the 'formidable' Sukhoi-30 MK, which awaits further upgradation, with dire prediction that the hidden costs of the Rafale project could bankrupt future defence bu dgets; the 'operational niche' into which the IAF intends to place the Rafale seems odd, given that it has the Sukhoi-30 and Tejas at the 'heavy' and 'light' ends of the combat spectrum with the Indo-Russian 5th generation aircraft (PAK-FA) on the horizon; and aggravation of the IAF's logistical nightmare when an 8th type is added to its existing inventory of seven combat aircraft of Russian, British, French, and Indian origin........

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