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The much-awaited multi-billion Rafale combat aircraft deal with France has moved a step further with the defence ministry finalizing a 'draft contract', according to top defence ministry officials.

Rafale was declared the lowest bidder in Janaury 2012 but the deal has not been inked so far on account of escalation in the cost. The Cost Negotiation Committee, which was set up in February 2012 to work out the modalities for the deal has not reached a conclusion after 30 months of negotiations.

The government raised its concerns over this last month, during the visit of French foreign minister Laurent Fabius to New Delhi.

"Yes, we are in the process of finalizing the draft contract for the deal. And we also expect the Cost Negotiation Committee to submit its report soon," said a senior defence ministry official, who was privy to the developments.

But the official refused to give a time frame for inking the deal. "It is very difficult to predict any date for signing the contract. But, it should happen in the next few months," the officer said, requesting anonymity.

The Indian Air Force (IAF), which is coping with a depleted combat strength, claims that even if the deal is signed by the end of the year the first lot of Rafale aircraft would arrive only by 2017, by which time the IAF would have to phase out its MiG-21 squadrons.

The likelihood of an early signing is encouraging. Besides, the ruling NDA government has promised to address all the needs of the armed forces to ensure defence preparedness.

According to officials privy to the development, the defence ministry has asked representatives of M/s Dassault Aviation – the French manufacturer of Rafale aircraft – to revise the price structure which has gone beyond expected estimates.

Officials claim that when the tender was floated in 2007 the cost of the programme was $12 billion (Rs42,000 crore).When the lowest bidder was declared in January 2012, the cost of the deal shot up to $18 billion (Rs90,000 crore). Now with the inclusion of transfer of technology, the life cycle cost and creation of an assembly line, the deal has climbed to a whopping $20 billion.

The air force is seeking to replace its aging MiG-21s with a modern fighter and the medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) fits between India's high-end Sukhoi-30MKIs and the low-end Tejas LCA lightweight fighter. The IAF has a sanctioned strength of 45 fighter jet squadrons. However, only 30 squadrons are operational as old aircraft have been retired.

Eighteen of the 126 new aircraft are to be purchased directly from Dassault and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited will manufacture 108 under a licence, at a new facility in Bangalore.

Defence minister Arun Jaitley informed parliament last week that "given the complexity of the procurement case, the process of negotiations with Dassault Aviation on various aspects of the commercial proposal and provisions of draft contract is on."

Dassault Aviation emerged as L-1 bidder for procurement of the MMRCA based on its quotation.
 
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Then just sign the gawdamned thing and get on with production! How many times should we hear stuff like deal almost ready, deal almost through, deal close to fruition, deal almost finalized etc etc?:angry:
 
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DNA report, which basically is based on the statement of the DM, that the Rafale talks are going on, so they just hyped it a little to make it sound more sensational.
 
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i guess first the news india rejecting the M777 howitzer deal with USA and now this i guess its all staged and at most MOD trying to give signal to dassault that either they renagociate the deal or bye bye

and one after another top US diplomats omming to india isnt a coincidence aswell

maybe just maybe FA-18 - EF is back in the race :)
 
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The much-awaited multi-billion Rafale combat aircraft deal with France has moved a step further with the defence ministry finalizing a 'draft contract', according to top defence ministry officials.

Rafale was declared the lowest bidder in Janaury 2012 but the deal has not been inked so far on account of escalation in the cost. The Cost Negotiation Committee, which was set up in February 2012 to work out the modalities for the deal has not reached a conclusion after 30 months of negotiations.

The government raised its concerns over this last month, during the visit of French foreign minister Laurent Fabius to New Delhi.

"Yes, we are in the process of finalizing the draft contract for the deal. And we also expect the Cost Negotiation Committee to submit its report soon," said a senior defence ministry official, who was privy to the developments.

But the official refused to give a time frame for inking the deal. "It is very difficult to predict any date for signing the contract. But, it should happen in the next few months," the officer said, requesting anonymity.

The Indian Air Force (IAF), which is coping with a depleted combat strength, claims that even if the deal is signed by the end of the year the first lot of Rafale aircraft would arrive only by 2017, by which time the IAF would have to phase out its MiG-21 squadrons.

The likelihood of an early signing is encouraging. Besides, the ruling NDA government has promised to address all the needs of the armed forces to ensure defence preparedness.

According to officials privy to the development, the defence ministry has asked representatives of M/s Dassault Aviation – the French manufacturer of Rafale aircraft – to revise the price structure which has gone beyond expected estimates.

Officials claim that when the tender was floated in 2007 the cost of the programme was $12 billion (Rs42,000 crore).When the lowest bidder was declared in January 2012, the cost of the deal shot up to $18 billion (Rs90,000 crore). Now with the inclusion of transfer of technology, the life cycle cost and creation of an assembly line, the deal has climbed to a whopping $20 billion.

The air force is seeking to replace its aging MiG-21s with a modern fighter and the medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) fits between India's high-end Sukhoi-30MKIs and the low-end Tejas LCA lightweight fighter. The IAF has a sanctioned strength of 45 fighter jet squadrons. However, only 30 squadrons are operational as old aircraft have been retired.

Eighteen of the 126 new aircraft are to be purchased directly from Dassault and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited will manufacture 108 under a licence, at a new facility in Bangalore.

Defence minister Arun Jaitley informed parliament last week that "given the complexity of the procurement case, the process of negotiations with Dassault Aviation on various aspects of the commercial proposal and provisions of draft contract is on."

Dassault Aviation emerged as L-1 bidder for procurement of the MMRCA based on its quotation.

This should shut up every one's mouth who was saying that the deal maybe scrapped
 
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He been saying that for 10 years :p: I'll believe it when I see it.
 
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i guess first the news india rejecting the M777 howitzer deal with USA and now this i guess its all staged and at most MOD trying to give signal to dassault that either they renagociate the deal or bye bye

and one after another top US diplomats omming to india isnt a coincidence aswell

maybe just maybe FA-18 - EF is back in the race :)

You have to differ the things a bit! The defence minister made his statement in front of the Rajya Sabha, because he is bound to, so has no relation to Dassault or any other possible MMRCA vendor.
The M777 issue is the same for a long time, they seems not to fulfill the offset requirements, while the cost has increased in the meantime, because of the stop of the productionline. Here the statement of too high costs, might indeed only be a negotiation point, to get them to comply to our offset requirements.
The US diplomats coming in to India now nothing surprising, since they want to get into relations with the new government, we see the same from various other countries and the new government itself is focusing on start relations with possible partners in the region now too. But no matter how many US diplomats will come to India, nothing changes our policies, they have to change to get us either closer to them or to make us buy more stuff from them. The earlier won't happen, because it's not in Indias interest to bound us to the US policies. The latter dependes on a change of US restrictions and ToT policies. If they want a bigger share of our market, they have to comply to our rules, as simple as that!
That wasn't the case for the F18SH or the F16IN in MMRCA and that's why they won't have a chance here anymore, for the navy the F18SH however could play a role again.
 
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just cancel the deal and buy more lca and super mki. And FGFA is on its way very soon.
 
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