Rafale and FREMM for Egypt Before Xmas?

[Mahmoud_EGY]

does this means no Russian jets for Egypt ?

 

[he-man]

But French equipment is more expensive then US one too, and US have better quality and tech then France, US can upgrade 30 year old F-16 to a level where it can eat Rafale and still sell is around $80 million, but France can do it with Mirage-2000s

While Block-40 F-16 were able to drop JDAMS, latest french jet Rafale got similar system late.

U are mistaken
The tech in rafale is upped by only f-35 at the moment.Not f-22 as its very old,,if it gets upgraded then its a different story.

su-35s cannot compete with rafale as far as electronics go.

Thats the best i can tell u.

 

[Bilal.]

U are mistaken
The tech in rafale is upped by only f-35 at the moment.Not f-22 as its very old,,if it gets upgraded then its a different story.

su-35s cannot compete with rafale as far as electronics go.

Thats the best i can tell u.

@ptldM3 @vostok, is that true? I thought su-35 was quite favourably comparable to eurofighter and rafale in terms of capabilities...

 

[he-man]

@ptldM3 @vostok, is that true? I thought su-35 was quite favourably comparable to eurofighter and rafale in terms of capabilities...

Not in EW

 

[ptldM3]

Not in EW

How would you have any clue about either of those aircraft's electronics? Even pilots sometimes are not given all of the technical data of their systems.

@ptldM3 @vostok, is that true? I thought su-35 was quite favourably comparable to eurofighter and rafale in terms of capabilities...

he-man is an armchair general that has never said anything even remotely intelligent, why would anyone take his opinions as anything more then wishful thinking?

 

[gau8av]

google translate

 

[Bilal.]

How would you have any clue about either of those aircraft's electronics? Even pilots sometimes are not given all of the technical data of their systems.




he-man is an armchair general that has never said anything even remotely intelligent, why would anyone take his opinions as anything more then wishful thinking?

Can you share some info about SU-35's EW capability? It seems to be an absolute monster... should be able to carry power EW suite...

 

[he-man]

How would you have any clue about either of those aircraft's electronics? Even pilots sometimes are not given all of the technical data of their systems.

Lol,russian paid troll.

Su-35s simply gets beat in

1)irst(135 km vs 90)
2)radar(aesa vs pesa)
3)passive protection suite(spectra>>anything su-35 has)
4)rcs due to rafale having partial s-ducts and smaller size overall with more composite buildup.
5)Targetting pod(thales vs uomz)-----Even russians themselves were getting thales pod vs uomz themselves till last year.

Now don't start crying.

And change ur pic....................both su-47 and the al-41(the vce one and not 117s got cancelled)

Can you share some info about SU-35's EW capability? It seems to be an absolute monster... should be able to carry power EW suite...

Khibini ew suite with uomz pod.

Irst is ols-35 with 90 km rear and 35 km front on
radar is irbis-e pesa with 20 kw peak and 5 kw average power.(detection range of 400 km of 3m2 and 90 km of .01 m2)
l band aesa for IFF

Rest unknown.

If russians install the n036 aesa on su-35 it can trump rafale...............
@vostok

 

[Bilal.]

@he-man , dude honestly it seems like SU-35 will detect and shoot first. Its radar seems extremely powerful in the posters you posted. Plus it carries towed decoy if I am not mistaking.

 

[he-man]

@he-man , dude honestly it seems like SU-35 will detect and shoot first. Its radar seems extremely powerful in the posters you posted. Plus it carries towed decoy if I am not mistaking.

400 km range is useless when u don't have a missile to utilize that.
Its good for awacs though as it can fire novotor k-100.

But in short range of sub 200 km which matters aesa will trump the pesa

 

[Bilal.]

400 km range is useless when u don't have a missile to utilize that.
Its good for awacs though as it can fire novotor k-100.

But in short range of sub 200 km which matters aesa will trump the pesa

In a way you are right. If Russia develops something like Meteor then Su-35 would have some advantage.

 

[he-man]

In a way you are right. If Russia develops something like Meteor then Su-35 would have some advantage.

Russians can simply change irbis e with n036 aesa.
Then it will be complicated for rafale.

 

[Bilal.]

Russians can simply change irbis e with n036 aesa.
Then it will be complicated for rafale.

Thats a bif IF since its for PAK-FA...

 

[he-man]

Thats a bif IF since its for PAK-FA...

Nose cone is almost same.

 

[Bilal.]

Nose cone is almost same.

I meant there don't seem to be any plans. So its hypothetical and hence a big "if"...