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Quality of life in U.S. in freefall, China's rising

Quality of life in U.S. in freefall, China's rising

By William Briggs | 21 May 2023, 4:00pm
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Poverty in the U.S. is sharply increasing (image via pxfuel)


China is rising. America is in decline. It is a statement of fact.

Those who cling to the fading notion of American supremacy, shout back that China will not overtake the U.S. or rather will not be permitted to assume global leadership.

Economic data and statistics are used to show the rise of China and the fall of America. It makes sense to do so. It immediately shows that one economy is clearly in the ascendency. Economics matter. It is a fact that economic structures determine political factors. It is also a fact that an economy and political structures exist because people exist.

People are important. Their social interactions, health and well-being are important. All of this must be considered when determining who is rising and who is falling. Social factors and data are inextricably linked. This is never more obvious than when considering who occupies anything like the high moral ground. How children are treated is a starting point. How social aspirations are met is another.

The USA, as the leading capitalist economy for decades, recorded a steady rise in life expectancy, positive health outcomes, a decline in infant mortality and maternal mortality rates. Other countries tended to follow. This upward trajectory in the United States has not simply slowed, or even stalled, but is in serious decline.

An appalling statistic was recently published in the Financial Times. One in 25 American children are not expected to live to see their 40th birthday. Former U.S. Secretary to the Treasury, Larry Summers, could only remark that the figures are ‘the most disturbing set of data that I have encountered in a long time'.

There are many factors that make up this despairing analysis. Thousands of children die each year in America from gun violence, but growing poverty remains at the very heart of the crisis. 15.3% of all American children live in poverty. There are 38 million officially poor Americans, or nearly 12% of the total population. There has never been a richer nation on earth. Its GDP per person is more than $70,000. Something is fundamentally wrong.

Life expectancy has now been falling in the USA for several years. In 1968 it was 68. By 2019 it had risen to 79. Since then, it has fallen to 76 years. This is the biggest drop since the 1920s. The crisis of opioid use, COVID and injury is said to be among the primary causes but poverty remains a strong underlying factor.

Maternal mortality rates, as another indicator of a country in crisis do not look all that impressive. In 2000, the rate of maternal deaths stood at 12 for every 100,000 live births. In 2017 the figure had risen to 19 and in 2020 the World Health Organisation showed a further rise to 21 per 100,000 live births.

Health outcomes are declining, suicide rates are growing and a general sense of despair haunts American society. And while the crisis is simply ignored, American military spending continues to balloon. 12% of the country’s entire budget goes to the military. 3.7% of the US GDP is spent on the military. It spends more than the next nine countries combined to maintain an ascendency, but ultimately at the expense of its own people. How a nation treats its people must be considered when determining who is rising and who is falling and, importantly, who has failed.

Comparisons are unavoidable. Is it reasonable to compare China and the United States? One has been "independent" only since 1949. The U.S. began its climb to the top a long time ago and has been the leading force in the world for decades. China’s GDP per person is $12,000. The U.S. figure is $70,000. The United Nations Human Development Index still regards China as a "developing nation". Even so, comparisons are made. It is almost impossible not to compare the two nations. How, then does China fare in relation to those important social indicators?

In 1949, when China declared itself to be a newly independent nation, life expectancy was just 35. By 1978 it had risen to 65. Today people live longer in China than they do in the USA. There are many reasons why. The capacity of the country to provide health care is one consideration. In the USA there are 2.9 hospital beds for every 1,000 people. China, still technically a developing nation, by comparison, has 4.95 beds per 1,000 people.

Suicide rates are another strong indicator of the health of a state. 14.5 Americans in every 100,000 commit suicide in any given year. The figure for China is just 6.7. Statistics can be treacherous and can be manipulated, but there is something rather telling in the figures around maternal mortality. In 2000 there were 59 deaths per 100,000 live births in China. That figure is now 23 in every 100,000. The trajectory in the USA is heading in the opposite direction. Today the two countries have relative parity.

Obviously, there are areas where the U.S. still leads China. The fact remains, however, that on so many key indicators, the greatest economic political and military power the world has seen is lagging behind an officially designated developing economy points to a decline with no sign of reversal.

A strong economy should reflect a healthy, stable and relatively contented population. One startling statistic was recently revealed. The Harvard Gazette reported that the Ash Center, in conjunction with Gallup, conducted a long-term survey, independent of Chinese government influence, over 15 years. It found that the great majority of Chinese were "relatively" satisfied with how things were faring. By contrast only 38 per cent of Americans expressed satisfaction with their federal government. The Ash Center and Gallup have no political axe to grind and are adamant that their research was fairly arrived at.

Whether China is operating better capitalism or whether it is in a transitional stage between capitalism and socialism is a topic for others to determine. What is in less doubt is that America remains in decline, economically, politically and socially.


So why do Chinese students line up to go to US for education and living?? Why can't the Chinese not find better education institutes in China?? Why are there so many Chinese massage houses in the US and other countries with Chinese chics working there??
 
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So why do Chinese students line up to go to US for education and living?? Why can't the Chinese not find better education institutes in China?? Why are there so many Chinese massage houses in the US and other countries with Chinese chics working there??
Not anymore, the number has been falling sharply in recent years.


 
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I deleted that one cause it's full of personal insults trash posts like this one, some posters just post personal attacks instead of discussing the topics in that thread.
Yeah, whatever you say.
 
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I think income taxes and corporate taxes are much higher in Denmark compared to Singapore. But taxes are generally accepted, and it is not really a matter of discussion during elections. Makes it alot easier to create an equal society. I believe free education all the way to university level plus public support (student grant for 5 years), free healthcare and a somewhat reasonable public pension is the reason most danes are content. Everybody has a chance to succeed, and if not, you are not really in trouble.

I was doing some reading. Interestingly, a low tax economy like Singapore actually has lower wealth inequality than the Scandinavian countries, despite the higher income inequality. That is because housing in SG is sold by the government at significantly lower than market price, and home ownership rate is very high.

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Of course belushi took advantage of it, I saw literal same kinda thing play out in my own cafeteria in uni (though people could report abusers of it if they wasted the food in the end - unlike Belushi who genuinely had the "stomach that walked" capacity lol).

No such thing as a free lunch pal, unless its genuine charity.

i.e they weren't free, just got included in the residence cost (if you opted for uni residence, you got standard 3 meal a day plan... nowadays you can opt out or adjust the level etc in more unis and colleges and save money if you want to spend time/effort yourself instead).

Residence costs arent cheap either nowadays damn, looking back I really wish a 24/7 meal plan just got included with the base level....but they were all extra stuff you had to add on top nowadays.

Junior and senior year (and then post grad), I moved out and rented house with some friends instead and saved lot on groceries....and became a pretty damn good cook myself all things considered.

Only thing of note the university student association rallied for and got at no extra cost was bus pass for all students year around....which again really only helped folks like us who lived off campus anyway.

@VCheng @_NOBODY_ @jhungary

Back in those days, trainees in hospitals etc. were also given free housing and food too. Those days are long gone.
 
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US is ‘falling behind’ other top nations as life expectancy nosedives​

By Marc Lallanilla
June 5, 2023

There was a time when Americans enjoyed a longer life expectancy than people in other countries.

But that was in the 1930s — and new research finds that since the 1950s, US life expectancy has fallen far behind many other countries.

In fact, citizens of Albania, Lebanon, the Czech Republic and Cuba can now expect to live longer and healthier lives than the average American.

“We may be one of the richest countries in the world, and we certainly outspend every country on health care, but Americans are sicker and die earlier than people in dozens of countries,” study author Steven Woolf said in a news release.

“Even Americans with healthy behaviors, for example, those who are not obese or do not smoke, appear to have higher disease rates than their peers in other countries,” according to the research, published in the American Journal of Public Health.

Compared to other nations — wealthy as well as developing ones — US life expectancy has taken a plunge.


Compared to other nations US life expectancy has taken a plunge.Getty Images/iStockphoto


Falling US life expectancy has been documented before, but this new study is exceptional because it wasn’t limited to wealthy developed nations and because it expanded its scope beyond the 1980s.

“Experts typically consider the 1980s or 1990s as the inflection point when growth in US life expectancy began underperforming compared with other countries,” said Woolf, director emeritus of the Center on Society and Health at Virginia Commonwealth University.

But the new analysis “shows that premature deaths among Americans are a much larger and older public health issue than previously believed,” he added.

Starting in 1950, the increases in US life expectancy that were seen before World War II started to slow. The downward trend continued and by 1968, the study found, America had fallen to 29th place.

And despite a brief upswing in lifespan from 1974 to 1982, life expectancy began to drop again in 1983, flatlined from 2010 to 2019 and plunged during the COVID-19 pandemic years.

The average life expectancy in the US is now just under 77 years, a nearly nine-year improvement from 1950.

But by comparison, a Japanese citizen can now expect to live for nearly 85 years.

The average American can now expect to live almost 77 years, less than in many other countries.Getty Images/iStockphoto
Several experts have weighed in on why stateside life expectancy is dropping compared to other nations.

Among the causes are drug abuse, traffic accidents, lack of health care and gun violence.

“There’s the opioid epidemic, which is clearly ours … other countries didn’t have that because those drugs were more controlled,” Eileen Crimmins, professor of gerontology at the University of Southern California, told NPR.

“Some of the difference comes from the fact that we are more likely to drive more miles,” which leads to more fatal crashes, Crimmins added, noting that “two years difference in life expectancy probably comes from the fact that firearms are so available in the United States.”

Citizens of Albania, Cuba and Lebanon can expect to live longer and healthier lives than most Americans.Getty Images/iStockphoto
The study found major differences between the states: Life expectancy was generally highest in states throughout the Northeast and West, but lowest in South Central and Midwestern states.

However, notable exceptions exist.

Data released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention showed that New York state residents had the largest drop in life expectancy in the nation in 2020.

The life expectancy for New Yorkers dropped from an average age of 80.7 in 2019 to 77.7 in 2020.

“Over time we’ve seen widening disparities in health trends at the state level,” Woolf said, adding that even though states can adopt policies that improve health, “many other states that fared poorly in this study are now actively weakening or rolling back such policies.

“We’ll keep falling behind unless we get serious about policy solutions,” Woolf continued.

“When we were doing [the study], we were joking we should call it ‘Live Free and Die,’ ” Crimmins said, referring to the New Hampshire state motto, “Live Free or Die.”

But she was told, “That’s outrageous, that’s too provocative.”

 
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I was doing some reading. Interestingly, a low tax economy like Singapore actually has lower wealth inequality than the Scandinavian countries, despite the higher income inequality. That is because housing in SG is sold by the government at significantly lower than market price, and home ownership rate is very high.

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I think singapore pretty much achieved a socialist society. Vast majority of people live in public housing, share the same public transportation system, have access to same medical system and schooling system.

The only difference your higher salary can give seems to be some fancy food or foreign vacations . Is that understanding correct ?
 
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The US had always had lower then average due to high gun violence
 
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The only difference your higher salary can give seems to be some fancy food or foreign vacations . Is that understanding correct ?

Pretty much, if you want to simplify it that way. However, housing quality can still differ a lot based on one's income.

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~78% of dwellings are public housing (we call it HDB), while ~22% are private housing (non-HDB).

~5% live in landed properties, like bungalows and semi-Ds. They are the very rich.

~17% live in private condominiums, but they are not necessarily better than HDBs. They cost >3x as much as HDBs per sqm, and thus many of private condominiums are actually smaller than 5-room HDBs. Private condominiums have better finishes, swimming pool, and security guards, but that's about it.

~78% live in HDBs. However, it is more important to note that the quality and size varies over a wide spectrum even though they are all public housing, and thus the profile of owners also varies (duh, afterall 78% lives in HDBs). The current President was living in a HDB until she had to move out due to security concerns.

The 2-rm HDBs are ~500sqft and but the largest HDB flats can be >2000sqft. The most premium HDBs can be pretty luxurious (still public housing btw lol).


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Why is he saying the quality of life in the US is in a free-fall?

He mentions poverty levels went up..but they did in many countries due to Covid..including Communist China.


Yes, the life expectancy went down due to covid too.

I supposed when it pops back up he won't be there pointing it out.
You are going back to 1930's down this path.

time might have come when Japanese-Koreans would start copying Chinese technology..... :-)
something we all were waiting for since start of this century, and now we might have reached the state ...
 
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USA is becoming the next USSR.

Neglecting the people's wellness over military expansion.

Increasing surveillance and propaganda to control the public.

USA is flexing its power based on the book instead of doing what USA usually does.
 
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USA is becoming the next USSR.

Neglecting the people's wellness over military expansion.

You can thank the Liberal Democrats who saved the Earth by creating environmental laws that chased manufacturing jobs to Asia.

Now those who never were in those jobs are seen as the "elite bourgeoisie" by those same Democrats who took the proletariat jobs away.

Increasing surveillance and propaganda to control the public.

LOL! Surveillance? What surveillance? Tell that to those idiot Liberal Democrats running big cities like San Francisco who are seeing a spike in crime from people who previously had those manufacturing jobs.

If there was surveillance it certainly isn't actively doing anything...even if it increased 10,000% in the last decade.

Control the public..yeah right..more like lost control of the public.
 
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