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Qandeel Baloch is dead

Perhaps, but you must understand that when a women is willing to take her clothes off for the heck of it, there is not much there she is not capable of any more. And that the family may have made their level best to rehabilitate her, facilitate her and support her. I am sure that this was an extreme, desperate and final step by the brother who must have lost all hope by now and perhaps wanted to stop her from committing even more sins.

Lol....he wanted to stop her sister from committing sins and got himself labelled with one of the biggest sin 'Murder'.......

Since when we are taught that to stop sin, kill the sinner/doer.....????
 
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Please put yourself in the brother's shoes and think. Even in the West, with all their expansive morals, people wouldn't want their sisters/mothers/daughters/wives stripping on cameras or indulge in other indecent behavior. Even there people would have problems with this kind of behavior and even there, there would be repercussions.

That part is not true, many strippers and prostitutes earn respectable amounts of money, and support themselves and their families. I personally know two girls who paid for college by working weekends and part time as strippers. (One of them is working as an up and coming attorney in the DA's office.)

Most people here do not consider it to be a sin or a matter of shame. But the outlook is different in India or Pakistan - but that does not justify murder.
 
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Let me start by 'teaching' you that neither one sin justify another, nor anybody else's sin justifies yours.

There may be people, affiliated with maderessa's who are accused of child molestation, same as the Church. However, they are a negligible minority (negligible in the sense of their number and not in the height of their crimes) and so one cannot just go around blaming Molvi's for each and every crimes. Especially since you neither understand your religion nor you have any wish to follow it at all.

I cannot justify a murder, however, I cannot blame her brother either. They were both wrong and both will have to answer. However, I have more sympathy with the brother, who not only ruined his entire life because he will either go to jail or hang but also has to live with the fact that his sister was an extremely immoral women and that she made him a murderer, than I have for a stripper and an immoral filth of our society.

I understand the religions [with plural] very well. I understand very well what it takes to corrupt the faiths. It always starts with Molvis of every religions. But that is not debate here.

The debate is you are still justifying for the action of her brother. In what ways she has harmed her brother? I am interested to hear in both physically and psychologically. Her brother ruined his own life which may seem smallish compared to what happened to Qandeel Baloch. Dead person don't come back and that is the worst part. She is dead. And nothing can compare to what happened to her. She is robbed of her life. She was killed before her time.

And for what? Honor? Does the society in Pakistan really has honor? It is land of corruption. Honor is big word for the society never mind how honor killing is strictly forbidden in the eyes of Islam if you are interested to hear on Islamic angle. The fact that Umar Ibn Al-Khattab (R.A), one of companions of Prophet of Islam, repented for burying his daughter alive due to honor during pre-Islam era. That's how worse honor killing is to Islam. There is no place for honor killing.

Forget that. From her brother point of view, what will that serve for killing her own blood sister? I am really anxious to hear that.
 
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The amount of passive support to her murder in this thread is extremely disturbing.

I am out of here..
 
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That part is not true, many strippers and prostitutes earn respectable amounts of money, and support themselves and their families. I personally know two girls who paid for college by working weekends and part time as strippers. (One of them is working as an up and coming attorney in the DA's office.)

Most people here do not consider it to be a sin or a matter of shame. But the outlook is different in India or Pakistan - but that does not justify murder.
OK so you support prostitution as respected Job? or just trying to mock Pakistan and Islam.
 
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Perhaps, but you must understand that when a women is willing to take her clothes off for the heck of it, there is not much there she is not capable of any more. And that the family may have made their level best to rehabilitate her, facilitate her and support her. I am sure that this was an extreme, desperate and final step by the brother who must have lost all hope by now and perhaps wanted to stop her from committing even more sins.
and in the process he committed the biggest sin himself he killed HER! ironic isn't it?
 
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Lol....he wanted to stop her sister from committing sins and got himself labelled with one of the biggest sin 'Murder'.......

Since when we are taught that to stop sin, kill the sinner/doer.....????

There would be no concept of a capital punishment in Islam if we were to not kill anyone.
 
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Not at all. She has never been involved in porns any way. Don't compare her with an established **** actress.

Even if she was. That is still not excuse for honor killing.

I remembered some excerpt which i read long ago.

A prostitute and dog were thirsty. They had no money, no water to drink. Finally, she found well nearby. She barely carried the water to the top from the deep end. The first thing she did was to feed the dog first. She gave water to dog. That alone sent her to Heaven. One small mercy is all it takes.

And there is one woman who prayed five times a day. I mean everyday. But she was heartless, pride, and pious maybe. But she had no kind heart. Those who were begging for food were denied or along with that line. Care to guess where she is in now?

The moral of the story is that even prayer means nothing if you are not going to honor the commandment of God which is to show mercy. Islam is sent as Mercy foremost and warning signs later - probably for heartless mankind.
 
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Qandeel Baloch, Pakistani model, killed by brother
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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan's social media celebrity Qandeel Baloch was killed allegedly by her brother in Multan in Punjab province, becoming the latest victim of "honour killings" that plague the country.

The 26-year-old actor-cum-model was killed in central district of Multan on Friday night, police said on Saturday.

Police said apparently she was killed by her brother named Wasim, who has fled after the incident.

"She was suffocated to death by strangulation. It seems to be a case of honour killing but we are investigating it," district police chief Azhar Akram said.

Her real name was Fouzia Azeem but she chose Qandeel Baloch as her pseudonym after stepping into modelling.

She had received threats from her family to quit modeling and her provocative appearances on social media. Her brother had been threatening her over her Facebook posts and videos, said the police.

Three weeks ago, she had written to the interior minister, the director general of the Federal Investigation Authority (FIA) and the senior superintendent of Islamabad asking them to provide security to her, Dawn reported.

She had said her life is in danger and that she is being threatened via calls on her mobile number and that she did not have security measures installed in her home, the paper said.

Qandeel was media sensation and unbelievably bold and was also considered highly controversial. She shot to fame in Pakistan in 2014 after a video of her pouting for the camera.

She became famous through her tireless self-promotion and suggestive "selfies" posted on social media and had amassed tens of thousands of followers.

She had expressed her desire many times to marry ex-cricketer and opposition politician Imran Khan.

Her controversial pictures recently led to the suspension of Mufti Qawi's membership from the Ruet-e-Hilal committee.

'Honour' killings on rise in Pakistan

The numbers of "honour" killings have risen sharply in Pakistan. Last year, 1,096 women and 88 men were killed in "honour" crimes in Pakistan, according to the independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.

In 2014, the number was 1,005 women, including 82 children, up from 869 women a year earlier.

The true numbers are believed to be higher, with many cases going unreported, activists say.

Those who kill for "honour" are almost never punished in Pakistan. A law based on Islamic Shariah allows the family of a victim to forgive a killer, and in these cases the killers are almost always family. So other relatives give their forgiveness, unwilling to see loved ones jailed.
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You tried for freedom in a wrong country - Partha Sarathi
 
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I'm sure you would love to be known as the brother of a **** star. We have a word for that in Pakistan, it's called being a 'kanjar'.


Still don't support the murder at all.
Your sentence doesnt make sense but i am punjabi if that helps you expressing.

As fot kanjar, even your mother had said you the same 100s of time.
 
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