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March 23 (Reuters) - Russia will seek payment in roubles for gas sales from “unfriendly” countries, President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday, sending European gas prices soaring on concerns the move would exacerbate the region’s energy crunch.

European countries' dependence on Russian gas and other exports has been thrown into the spotlight since Moscow's Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine and the subsequent imposition of Western sanctions aimed at isolating Russia economically.


"Russia will continue, of course, to supply natural gas in accordance with volumes and prices ... fixed in previously concluded contracts," Putin said at a televised meeting with top government ministers.

"The changes will only affect the currency of payment, which will be changed to Russian roubles," he said.

Russian gas accounts for some 40% of Europe's total consumption and EU gas imports from Russia have fluctuated between 200 million to 800 million euros ($880 million) a day so far this year. The possibility a change of currency could throw that trade into disarray sent some European and British wholesale gas prices up around 15-20% on Wednesday.


The Russian rouble briefly leapt to a three-week high past 95 against the dollar before settling close to 100 after the shock announcement.

Putin said the government and central bank had one week to come up with a solution on how to move these operations into the Russian currency and that gas giant Gazprom (GAZP.MM) would be ordered to make the corresponding changes to gas contracts.

With major banks reluctant to trade in Russian assets, some big Russian gas buyers in the European Union were not immediately able to clarify how they might pay for gas going forward.


"At the moment, we do not yet wish to comment. We will be in touch once we have formed an opinion," said a spokesman at Germany's Uniper.

Moscow calls its actions in Ukraine a "special military operation" to disarm and "denazify" its neighbour. Ukraine and Western allies call this a baseless pretext for a war of choice that has raised fears of wider conflict in Europe.

A BREACH OF RULES

According to Gazprom, 58% of its sales of natural gas to Europe and other countries as of Jan. 27 were settled in euros. U.S. dollars accounted for about 39% of gross sales and sterling around 3%.

The European Commission has said it plans to cut EU dependency on Russian gas by two-thirds this year and end its reliance on Russian supplies of the fuel "well before 2030".

But unlike the United States and Britain, EU states have not agreed to sanction Russia's energy sector, given their dependency.

The Commission, the 27-country EU's executive, did not immediately respond to request for comment.

There are questions over whether Russia's decision constitutes a breach of contract rules.

"This would constitute a breach to payment rules included in the current contracts," said a senior Polish government source, adding that Poland has no intention of signing new contracts with Gazprom after their current long-term agreement expires at the end of this year.

Russia drew up a list of "unfriendly" countries, which corresponds to those that imposed sanctions. Among other things, deals with companies and individuals from those countries have to be approved by a government commission.

The list of countries includes the United States, European Union member states, Britain, Japan, Canada, Norway, Singapore, South Korea, Switzerland and Ukraine.

Some of these countries, including the United States and Norway, do not purchase Russian gas.

 
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The President of Germany announced that Russian gas and oil purchases will stop. Other European countries will probably follow Germany. This situation may increase the bargaining opportunity of other countries that import natural gas from Russia.
 
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The President of Germany announced that Russian gas and oil purchases will stop. Other European countries will probably follow Germany. This situation may increase the bargaining opportunity of other countries that import natural gas from Russia.

Do you mean the Qatari deal? Thats a long term thing, in the short term they'll still need Russian gas.
 
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Singapore buy a lot of Russian oil for their refinery unit ( belongs to Shell company), Singapore exported refined oil and large quantity of it is absorbed by Indonesia. (This is because Indonesia has become net oil importer since about 2003).

If I am not mistaken, Singapore refinery business relies about 60 % of their total oil import from Russia.

This policy will improve Rubel strength

The President of Germany announced that Russian gas and oil purchases will stop. Other European countries will probably follow Germany. This situation may increase the bargaining opportunity of other countries that import natural gas from Russia.

When did he said that ? Give us link. So far German has been reluctant to follow US sanction on Russia energy sector.
 
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The President of Germany announced that Russian gas and oil purchases will stop. Other European countries will probably follow Germany. This situation may increase the bargaining opportunity of other countries that import natural gas from Russia.

Good news for China and India.

Bad News for EU, Japan and South Korea

Nord Stream and Turk Stream are now dead.

Singapore buy a lot of Russian oil for their refinery unit ( belongs to Shell company), Singapore exported refined oil and large quantity of it is absorbed by Indonesia. (This is because Indonesia has become net oil importer since about 2003).

If I am not mistaken, Singapore refinery business relies about 60 % of their total oil import from Russia.

This policy will improve Rubel strength

Singapore follows what US decides.

Singapore, Japan, South Korea and EU will be forced to replace Russian gas.
 
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Singapore buy a lot of Russian oil for their refinery unit ( belongs to Shell company), Singapore exported refined oil and large quantity of it is absorbed by Indonesia. (This is because Indonesia has become net oil importer since about 2003).

If I am not mistaken, Singapore refinery business relies about 60 % of their total oil import from Russia.

This policy will improve Rubel strength



When did he said that ? Give us link. So far German has been reluctant to follow US sanction on Russia energy sector.

That's a huge figure. I used to think that Singapore buys the bulk of its crude from Brunei that's much closer.

I don't get it; why the hell did Singapore condemn and sanction Russia? They're too small politically speaking. Sure they are US allies and all, but they usually avoid these types of confrontation unless their own security is under threat.

Singapore follows what US decides.

Singapore, Japan, South Korea and EU will be forced to replace Russian gas.

They can't. There's something called supply chain and logistics.

The logistics of transporting gas between Russia's Sakhalin to South Korea and Japan is almost negligible compared to importing oil and gas from the Gulf. Similarly, for Singapore, the cheapest source is usually Brunei but the other option is either Vietnam or Russia.

East Asia should have stayed put or abstained. This overt stance damaged so many CBMs that were developing between Russia, Japan, and South Korea.
 
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That's a huge figure. I used to think that Singapore buys the bulk of its crude from Brunei that's much closer.

I don't get it; why the hell did Singapore condemn and sanction Russia? They're too small politically speaking. Sure they are US allies and all, but they usually avoid these types of confrontation unless their own security is under threat.

Singapore needs to do that so that if somehow something similar happen to that island, Western countries will do similar sanction to the potential invader of Singapore.

You know Soekarno aggressive behavior is still in many memories of Singaporean, this is also why they spend a lot in defense relative to its GDP
 
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Singapore needs to do that so that if somehow something similar happen to that island, Western countries will do similar sanction to the potential invader of Singapore.

You know Soekarno aggressive behavior is still in many memories of Singaporean, this is also why they spend a lot in defense relative to its GDP

Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and Philippines are all with the US.

So why bother.
 
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Brunei oil is not enough, majority of Indonesian imported oil is supplied by Singapore. I think Brunei supply oil to Philippine ( closer), some to Indonesia.

Indonesia produce 600.000 barrell oil per day ( 80 % comes from state owned PT Pertamina, the rest supplied by national private owned company PT Medco Energy and foreign companies ( BP, Petro China, and others )

The need is around 1 million barrel per day, so 400.000 barrel per day is imported. If Brunei oil can supply them, they will be much richer that current situation @Tshering22

Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and Philippines are all with the US.

So why bother.

Why bother ? regime can change, during Soekarno we are with USSR and USA has even bomb Indonesia in 1958 to help separatist (Permesta)

 
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Singapore needs to do that so that if somehow something similar happen to that island, Western countries will do similar sanction to the potential invader of Singapore.

You know Soekarno aggressive behavior is still in many memories of Singaporean, this is also why they spend a lot in defense relative to its GDP

Wars are for some strategic reason: either securing a base, resources, or both. Ukraine has both while Singapore has neither.

Singapore has 0 natural resources. Both Indonesia and Malaysia are positioned in the same place and don't need to secure it at all. Most Singaporean wealth is digital, keeping in mind that if climate change screws them, they are ready for it. Some reports suggest that the Singaporean government is already buying lands in Australia as an insurance policy.

The biggest modern threat that they face is most likely piracy for their trading ships.

Good news.
Kick the dollar out!
Not so easy. There are talks but there is no consensus. RMB is not freely tradeable making it difficult for countries to adopt. While the Japanese Yen, Euros, and British Pounds are just an extension of the American financial system. Singapore Dollar, Hong Kong Dollar, Taiwan Dollars are also extensions.

What other options are we looking at? Malaysian Ringgit, Mauritian Rupee, Indian Rupee, Russian Ruble? Getting consensus among developing countries as a whole would be an uphill task. Nothing short of a miracle could unseat the USD dominance.
 
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East Asia should have stayed put or abstained. This overt stance damaged so many CBMs that were developing between Russia, Japan, and South Korea.
And all this for what? To be on the good side of America. All these wars just to be on the good side of the Saudis and the Americans. All these years,all these wars...
Because America suddenly wants to help Ukraine,the world has to suffer. Because they want to impose sanctions on Russia,
millions of people have to pay crazy bills for power and gas
 
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Wars are for some strategic reason: either securing a base, resources, or both. Ukraine has both while Singapore has neither.

Singapore has 0 natural resources. Both Indonesia and Malaysia are positioned in the same place and don't need to secure it at all. Most Singaporean wealth is digital, keeping in mind that if climate change screws them, they are ready for it. Some reports suggest that the Singaporean government is already buying lands in Australia as an insurance policy.

The biggest modern threat that they face is most likely piracy for their trading ships.

Tell them to Singaporean, you are Indian, you dont know our region. Of course there is no value in invading Singaporean, but human psychology sometime goes beyond that, this is why they spend huge in defense relative to their own GDP.

I would recommend you to read Lee Kuan Yew defense strategy "poison shrimp" and what is behind such strategy
 
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