Putin stationed missiles with nuclear warheads

[vostok]

occupation?!!!
Anyway, our European allies are in favor of such deployment, and they want to have a guarantee from get bitten by the big bear. I am sure that you know Russia is an unstable country, and these troops are a guarantee in the case that a mad person came into power there. and also these troops keep balance and peace in the Europe.

You know, very rarely occupiers-country honestly and openly declares that she - the occupant country. Most often, the occupier is covered by the fact that "protects" from someone. What else to say?
That Europe has always attacked Russia, not vice versa.
Napoleon, the Crimean War, the First and Second World Wars - all were began by West against Russia.
And I do not mean small border conflicts - is entirely another matter . I mean large-scale invasion of Western hordes into Russia.

 

[rmi5]

You know, very rarely occupiers-country honestly and openly declares that she - the occupant country. Most often, the occupier is covered by the fact that "protects" from someone. What else to say?
That Europe has always attacked Russia, not vice versa.
Napoleon, the Crimean War, the First and Second World Wars - all were began by West against Russia.
And I do not mean small border conflicts - is entirely another matter . I mean large-scale invasion of Western hordes into Russia.

I agree that no one tells that I am the bad guy. but to be fair, these troops deployed in the Europe in order to protect west Europe from Soviet Union, and now they will protect entire Europe.
BTW, Russia cannot claim to be an innocent. I guess Eastern Europeans have not forgotten Prague Spring and what you did there. that's why many of them still hate you guys, you can consider @flamer84 as an example. In addition, you have constantly attacked and harassed Iran in the last 3 centuries as well. you did the same thing to Ottomans as well. So, you cannot claim to be an innocent at all.

 

[vostok]

I agree that no one tells that I am the bad guy. but to be fair, these troops deployed in the Europe in order to protect west Europe from Soviet Union, and now they will protect entire Europe.
BTW, Russia cannot claim to be an innocent. I guess Eastern Europeans have not forgotten Prague Spring and what you did there. that's why many of them still hate you guys, you can consider @flamer84 as an example. In addition, you have constantly attacked and harassed Iran in the last 3 centuries as well. you did the same thing to Ottomans as well. So, you cannot claim to be an innocent at all.

Russia liberated Romania from centuries of muslim domination. And then the Romanians began to hate Russian at the first opportunity they took side of the enemy and occupied Russian land.
West started the Cold War , and not Russia . West down the Iron Curtain , not Russia .
And you know why ? You know the real reason why the Cold War started ? Because the Soviet Union refused to be part of a dollar world, refused to ratify Bretton-Woods agreement and recognize global power of America and Britain. It was after that "Uncle Joe" Stalin turned into a "bloody tyrant and a despot ."
Yes. USSR occupied part of Europe after the Second World War. But they fought against us , occupied our country and killed 17 million civilians and 10 million soldiers. If someone did this to America - imagine what would have made the U.S.?
Soviet Union withdrew its forces from Europe. USSR no longer exists. Why did you expand NATO? Why build a European missile defense ?
From whom now you are "defending" the occupied European countries ? Black migrants ? Terrorists? From the " Iranian nuclear threat "?
If NATO was created against the USSR , and not for the sake of power over the world , NATO would be dissolved on the same day , when the Soviet Union self-destructed .
NATO - purely aggressive bloc , rather than a defense alliance . After collapse of the USSR NATO broke down with chains and start aggressive wars worldwide. Even in Europe.

 

[rmi5]

Russia liberated Romania from centuries of muslim domination. And then the Romanians began to hate Russian at the first opportunity they took side of the enemy and occupied Russian land.
West started the Cold War , and not Russia . West down the Iron Curtain , not Russia .
And you know why ? You know the real reason why the Cold War started ? Because the Soviet Union refused to be part of a dollar world, refused to ratify Bretton-Woods agreement and recognize global power of America and Britain. It was after that Uncle Joe Stalin of turned into a " bloody tyrant and a despot ."
Yes. USSR occupied part of Europe after the Second World War. But they fought against us , occupied our country and killed 17 million civilians and 10 million soldiers. If someone did this to America - imagine what would have made the U.S.?
Soviet Union withdrew its forces from Europe. USSR no longer exists. Why did you expand NATO? Why build a European missile defense ?
From whom now you are defending the occupied European countries ? Black migrants ? Terrorists? From the " Iranian nuclear threat "?
If NATO was created against the USSR , and not for the sake of power over the world , NATO would be dissolved on the same day , when the Soviet Union self-destructed .
NATO - purely aggressive bloc , rather than a defense alliance . After collapse of the USSR NATO broke down with chains and start aggressive wars worldwide. Even in Europe.

I am not in favor of rationalizing whatever US has done so far. But I have some notes about your comment. East Europeans were not the ones who killed 27 million of Russians, the germans were the ones did that. but, you occupied Poland, Czechoslovakia and rest of the poor Eastern European countries. It is not an good excuse. As far as ottomans are concerned, I referred to Russians behavior that they have invaded To European countries before, although all of us know that Russian did not invade Ottomans to free christians, but they invaded to gain more land and power, and those lands happened to be christian populated. If this is true, what you can say about occupying Caucasus? what about Daghistan, and Azerbaijan? were they christian as well?!!!

 

[flamer84]

I agree that no one tells that I am the bad guy. but to be fair, these troops deployed in the Europe in order to protect west Europe from Soviet Union, and now they will protect entire Europe.
BTW, Russia cannot claim to be an innocent. I guess Eastern Europeans have not forgotten Prague Spring and what you did there. that's why many of them still hate you guys, you can consider @flamer84 as an example. In addition, you have constantly attacked and harassed Iran in the last 3 centuries as well. you did the same thing to Ottomans as well. So, you cannot claim to be an innocent at all.

You can't use logic with @vostok because he's a retard parroting the same things all over again altough he's been debunked many times.

Russia didn't eliberate Romania,Romania got her independence with the blood of its soldiers-altough it was a mere formality,by 1877 Romania's dependency with the High Porte was a mere formality.

What's worse is that the russians begged for our help because the turks were pawning them ,after we gave it to them,rescuing them from defeat ,they again stole land and betrayed us,their former ally.How can you like such creatures ?

Initially, before 1877, Russia did not wish to cooperate with Romania, since they did not wish Romania to participate in the peace treaties after the war, but the Russians encountered a very strong Turkish army of 50,000 soldiers led by Osman Pasha at the Siege of Plevna (Pleven) where the Russian troops led by Russian generals suferred very heavy losses and were routed in several battles.
Due to great losses, Nikolai Konstantinovich, Grand Duke of Russia, asked Carol I for the Romanian Army to intervene and join forces with the Russian Army.[5][6]

Prince Carol I accepted the Duke's proposal to become the Marshal of the Russian troops in addition to the Command of his own Romanian army, thus being able to lead the combined armed forces to the conquest of Plevna and the formal surrender, after heavy fighting, of the Turkish General Osman Pasha. The Romanian Army won the battles ofGrivitsa and Rahova, and on 28 November 1877 the Plevna citadel capitulated, and Osman Pasha surrendered the city, the garrison and his sword to the Romanian colonel Mihail Cerchez. After the occupation of Plevna, the Romanian Army returned to the Danube and won the battles of Vidin and Smârdan.

On 19 January 1878, the Ottoman Empire requested an armistice, which was accepted by Russia and Romania. Romania won the war but at a cost of more than 10,000 casualties. Its independence from the Porte was finally recognised by the Central Powers on 13 July 1878

Russia would nevertheless occupy as a so-called "compensation" the old Romanian Southern counties of Bessarabia (Cahul, Bolgrad and Ismail), which by the Treaty of Paris of 1856 (after theCrimean War) were included in Moldavia. Prince Carol was most unhappy by this imposition of Russian occupation of Romanian territories that seriously breached the Russo-Romanian treaty of 4 April 1877

Romanian War of Independence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[rmi5]

You can't use logic with @vostok because he's a retard parroting the same things all over again altough he's been debunked many times.

Russia didn't eliberate Romania,Romania got her independence with the blood of its soldiers-altough it was a mere formality,by 1877 Romania's dependency with the High Porte was a mere formality.

What's worse is that the russians begged for our help because the turks were pawning them ,after we gave it to them,rescuing them from defeat ,they again stole land and betrayed us,their former ally.How can you like such creatures ?



Romanian War of Independence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Actually I got amazed when @vostok tried to show Russians as innocents who have not invaded anyone. I think all of us, Iranians, Turks, Eastern Europeans, and even Scandinavians have been suffered from Russia for about 2-3 centuries, and it is not tolerable for us to hear these nonsense words from Russians and see their crocodile tears.

 

[flamer84]

Actually I got amazed when @vostok tried to show Russians as innocents who have not invaded anyone. I think all of us, Iranians, Turks, Eastern Europeans, and even Scandinavians have been suffered from Russia for about 2-3 centuries, and it is not tolerable for us to hear these nonsense words from Russians and see their crocodile tears.

Exactly ! Actually i'm not one of these guys constantly moaning about the past but when you hear this crap in 2013 i'm going bonkers ....at least they can owe to their past like the germans did,but nooooo.

 

[Beidou2020]

lol what I find funny is that a little Iranian kid is hating on China and Russia when its these two countries propping up that despotic Iranian regime that is a state sponsor of terrorism. The regime is run by a bunch of stone age mullah radicals that cover their women from head to toe. Without Russia and China, Israel would have already bombed Iran back to the stone age.

It's so funny seeing these people from countries the US hates, worshipping the Yankees and hating on the very countries protecting their 3rd world regimes.

Russia and China should have agreed to full UN sanctions on Iran and let America and Israel bomb Iran.

 

[rmi5]

Exactly ! Actually i'm not one of these guys constantly moaning about the past but when you hear this crap in 2013 i'm going bonkers ....at least they can owe to their past like the germans did,but nooooo.

Exactly. In my opinion the reason is that in contrast to germans, they still feel that they are a super power and they own the world. But let them alone, they will self destruct by time. I just feel very bad for North Caucasians and other minorities there who have been still oppressed by them.

 

[flamer84]

lol what I find funny is that a little Iranian kid is hating on China and Russia when its these two countries propping up that despotic Iranian regime that is a state sponsor of terrorism. The regime is run by a bunch of stone age mullah radicals that cover their women from head to toe. Without Russia and China, Israel would have already bombed Iran back to the stone age.

It's so funny seeing these people from countries the US hates, worshipping the Yankees and hating on the very countries protecting their 3rd world regimes.

Russia and China should have agreed to full UN sanctions on Iran and let America and Israel bomb Iran.

I am pretty sure he doesn't like at all the mullah regime in Iran.

 

[rmi5]

lol what I find funny is that a little Iranian kid is hating on China and Russia when its these two countries propping up that despotic Iranian regime that is a state sponsor of terrorism. The regime is run by a bunch of stone age mullah radicals that cover their women from head to toe. Without Russia and China, Israel would have already bombed Iran back to the stone age.

It's so funny seeing these people from countries the US hates, worshipping the Yankees and hating on the very countries protecting their 3rd world regimes.

Russia and China should have agreed to full UN sanctions on Iran and let America and Israel bomb Iran.

Don't worry, They have always voted in favor of any sanction against Iran. and they have cheered for that even more than European countries like Germany, since putting Iran in an isolation is the only way for them to sell their crappy products to Iran. Now, get lost and do not stalk me in every thread and enjoy your 50 cents that you earned today

I am pretty sure he doesn't like at all the mullah regime in Iran.

Actually he is a$$ hurt since I debunked him a couple of minutes ago in an another thread, so there is no need to reply his posts my friend.

 

[flamer84]

Don't worry, They have always voted in favor of any sanction against Iran. and they have cheered for that even more than European countries like Germany, since putting Iran in an isolation is the only way for them to sell their crappy products to Iran. Now, get lost and do not stalk me in every thread and enjoy your 50 cents that you earned today



Actually he is a$$ hurt since I debunked him a couple of minutes ago in an another thread, so there is no need to reply his posts my friend.

Russia will loose money when Iran stats to export gas at full market price,without sanctions.The embargo worked miracles for gas prices and was a good thing for Gazprom.

 

[Beidou2020]

Don't worry, They have always voted in favor of any sanction against Iran. and they have cheered for that even more than European countries like Germany, since putting Iran in an isolation is the only way for them to sell their crappy products to Iran. Now, get lost and do not stalk me in every thread and enjoy your 50 cents that you earned today

Iran is just used as a pawn by every country for decades. Just shows how much we think of Iranians lol. We squeezed Iranian balls and got major discounts for oil payments.

I could care less if Iran turned into another Iraq.

Bomb away Yankees.

 

[Serpentine]

Iran is just used as a pawn by every country for decades. Just shows how much we think of Iranians lol. We squeezed Iranian balls and got major discounts for oil payments.

I could care less if Iran turned into another Iraq.

Bomb away Yankees.

Mate stop trolling, there are other ways to calm your anger, and it seems posting here is not helping. Maybe a cup of coffee or a little shower can help.

Iran has nothing to do with this thread, so it's better to stop it here.

 

[rmi5]

Russia will loose money when Iran stats to export gas at full market price,without sanctions.The embargo worked miracles for gas prices and was a good thing for Gazprom.

Exactly, That's why they fear about any possible agreement between Iran and western countries. Europeans have made it clear to Iran that they like to reach an agreement and resolve the issue and go back to Iranian market and enjoy trading with Iranian economy. Americans are willing as well. but guess who are getting furious about such a thing.

Anyway, lets get back to the topic