PTM leader Manzoor Pashteen arrested in Peshawar

[khail007]

The incident has two different stories. And do not disrespect the dead by calling them ex-TTP.

These were innocent civilians, only exercising their constitution right of assembly.

The KPK Government even announced compensation for the deceased and injured. So, they were terrorists and attacked a check-post, why compensate the families?

A few KP ministers even went and apologised to the families.

Who were TTP guys? Could you prove they does not belong to this areas?
Now I don't want to so discuss for further sake of discussion.
Just an answer, I just want your version not any third party, so don't avoid it next time. If do not have any don't reply, as simple.

Why they want to remove the check post?

 

[Xestan]

Who were TTP guys? Could you prove they does not belong to this areas?
Now I don't want to so discuss for further sake of discussion.
Just an answer, I just want your version not any third party, so don't avoid it next time. If do not have any don't reply, as simple.

Why they want to remove the check post?

I cannot give my version as I was not there both the parties were to be blamed for the tragedy. I put more blame on the State because it's the State's responsibility to protect the lives of the citizens.

About the check posts, what I hear from the locals is that their movement is hindered because of these posts, Army has actually removed some of the unnecessary check posts but still a lot of them remain. The problem is not the check posts, but when added with whole range of different issues, it becomes firing point too. Major issue is forced disappearances and the blanket immunity Army enjoys in the area. Curfew, anywhere anytime, during wartime, it was still tolerable, now the people are just fed up.

 

[Rafi]

The protesters were instigating mutiny?

Lets see if they are charged by the Police for that. Manzoor Pashteen has been charged under sedition for calling for repealing the constitution in his Bannu speech. But here, whole PDF was crying about Musharraf being declared traitor and his actions of abrogating the constitution were defended. Why the double standards?



But it was peaceful protest. That's the fact. We can't stomp on constitutional rights with national security excuses. All the wrong in the country has ever been done on the same pretext of national security.

In Pushto they were asking Pushtoon Officers and Soldiers to fight against "oppression", and to resign from the armed forces and do "something" for their "own" people.

 

[hussain0216]

They are just causing fassad

These low lives were supporting TTP 10 years ago and since they were defeated and FATA has been peaceful these namak harams now trying to cause more fassad

 

[American Pakistani]

I cannot give my version as I was not there both the parties were to be blamed for the tragedy. I put more blame on the State because it's the State's responsibility to protect the lives of the citizens.
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Do some research before posting crap what your bharat mata taught you. They attacked a check post and surrounded it from all sides. The Para military soldiers had to shoot some of these terrorists to deter. There was no other way to break the circle of that terrorist mob.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Well if there is a solid proof that he was directly or indirectly involved in the killing of any Pakistani then he should be hanged in public. Otherwise still there is enough proof that he is a traitor who took funds from India,so in that case he should be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. Or perhaps only allow parole when he is very old and can't walk without a stick in his hand.

 

[Leo~Calicratis]

Didn't he incited violence, killing, hatred against public institutions and threatened openly the Pak Army? If he does so then he deserves to be tried with utter treason against the State!

 

[YeBeWarned]

Well Namanzoor Pissteen is Pashtoon so him and his circus wont get the same treatment as MQM ..

 

[airmarshal]

record of our prosecutors is dismal. either on purpose or complete incompetence we contradict ourselves and present weak evidence enabling the accused to be freed and a hero.
yes this guy is a pest and he is banking on our incompetency to further fan the propaganda of Pashton victim hood.
its a battle of narrative that our state institutions have badly failed.
the guy doesnt even hide his links with Afghan intelligence, he meets with Indians openly as well as hostile Afghan leaders yet he is able to sell crap to the Pashtons because our state has miserably failed to address some Pashton issues and failed to expose him.
it will be wrong to torture him or kill him or punish him on fake charges when there is much more genuinely available. sell a better narrative and then people wont really care and his arrest wont even make page 3 news.

I couldnt agree more!

 

[pzfz]

Please go speak to tribals with these grievances. It’s not me who has a problem with checkpoints. Ask them why they voted for PTM MNAs, why they attend PTM rallies in their thousands.



Ali Wazir (NA-50)
Mohsin Dawar (NA-48)

quasi seat adjustment with pti. jui-f has more seats.

This is the list prepared by the local Army unit deployed at Kharqamar. I have misplaced the picture of other document which had more names. But here are 13. Anything else?

fake.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1072486233543184384

Please try to follow along. Also, for the part in bold. There is a media blackout on PTM. They are not allowed to show their rallies on tv and journalists who talk about them are threatened. And here you’re talking about free press? Let’s see if they’re allowed to stand up straight before we expect them to be able to walk or even run.

not every 2-bit rally deserves media attention. what you clowns want is sympathetic media coverage blown out of proportion which is already readily available in Pak english media.

Pashteen is in judicial remand for 14 days in DI Khan Jail.



Have you been under a rock?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharqamar_incident

lol wikipedia diatrabe with unverified sources from ANI (indian state-led agency), mythological claims posted in VOA, and shady websites and orgs proven to be indian disinfo fronts. are you really this stupid? do better.

 

[Xestan]

fake.

So, either you are saying the names are all fake, or you are denying 17 people got killed by the soldiers at Kharqamar checkpost. The figure of 13 is even confirmed by ISPR itself.

 

[khail007]

I cannot give my version as I was not there both the parties were to be blamed for the tragedy. I put more blame on the State because it's the State's responsibility to protect the lives of the citizens.

I or else didn't want to buy your version but truth ... which you yourself couldn't guarantee. Yes state have to protect the peaceful citizen not miscreants - if you go thru @Rafi post it is evident.

About the check posts, what I hear from the locals is that their movement is hindered because of these posts, Army has actually removed some of the unnecessary check posts but still a lot of them remain. The problem is not the check posts, but when added with whole range of different issues, it becomes firing point too. Major issue is forced disappearances and the blanket immunity Army enjoys in the area. Curfew, anywhere anytime, during wartime, it was still tolerable, now the people are just fed up.

No one will promote the version you stated, I am witness to what Pakistanis are behaving in Pakistan and how they mew like cats in UAE while authorities deal with them. A 'Pathan' of FATA thru scanning gate returned three time and then was subject to physical body search and he was seemed following all instructions with obedience.
Why they are shy of following checkpost rules in Pakistan, where the security threat is real?
So lame excuses don't stay, just the behavioural issue and should not be overtaken the national security.
It is standard procedure around the world, any area where security personal come under attack/killed considered as hostile area and subject to search operations.
Your narrative is just to promote the hostile attitude of 'PTM', so taking your case 'Bhai' was also right. There is no place for ethnic/race based groups/parties in Pakistan and even in our religion Islam.

 

[Xestan]

I or else didn't want to buy your version but truth ... which you yourself couldn't guarantee. Yes state have to protect the peaceful citizen not miscreants - if you go thru @Rafi post it is evident.


No one will promote the version you stated, I am witness to what Pakistanis are behaving in Pakistan and how they mew like cats in UAE while authorities deal with them. A 'Pathan' of FATA thru scanning gate returned three time and then was subject to physical body search and he was seemed following all instructions with obedience.
Why they are shy of following checkpost rules in Pakistan, where the security threat is real?
So lame excuses don't stay, just the behavioural issue and should not be overtaken the national security.
It is standard procedure around the world, any area where security personal come under attack/killed considered as hostile area and subject to search operations.
Your narrative is just to promote the hostile attitude of 'PTM', so taking your case 'Bhai' was also right. There is no place for ethnic/race based groups/parties in Pakistan and even in our religion Islam.

I took you as a reasonable person who'd like to talk on merits of a point and get involved in meaningful debate. I am sorry I started to believe you were any different than the majority hyper nationalist public here. Peace out!

 

[khail007]

I took you as a reasonable person who'd like to talk on merits of a point and get involved in meaningful debate. I am sorry I started to believe you were any different than the majority hyper nationalist public here. Peace out!

I am also of the same thinking about you, just supporter of anti-state ethnic groups based on race to promote hate against the state/armed forces of Pakistan and nothing else - bye-bye.

 

[Enigma SIG]

I am also of the same thinking about you, just supporter of anti-state ethnic groups based on race to promote hate against the state/armed forces of Pakistan and nothing else - bye-bye.

I think it is high time Pakistan rethinks it's core nationalistic ideology. Dissolve the current state system and come up with something akin to district level local government with each having financial autonomy. Oh and rename these districts based on historic, cultural relevance that links this territory to its past, not to language or race.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/2-so...rist-hideout-in-north-waziristan-ispr.651697/

This is why checkposts aren't removed. It is a minor inconvenience. PTM can hire laal kurti's to shout their propaganda all they like. Until people abetting them for one reason or the other decide to care for themselves and the country at large, the army will continue its heavy presence in the area unfortunately.